Iampringles said:
It really depends who you are playing with.
On one of my prefered COD4 servers, we had knife parties in the empty swimming pool on the map Bloc. Good times.
Thats sort of exactly the point, it all depends on the circles you run in. If you're with a group of people that like knife fights, then you would be more surpised when someone shoots your arse off when you swipe your knife around. Speaking of CoD one of the problems is (okay two problems) one of which is that you can't 'wield' you're knife for people to see, just swipe it around (i really like this aspect actually) and it brings up another good example.
Gamespy recently had an article (if you can call them that anymore) about what people were hoping to see in modern warfare 2. A lot of it was perks, primarily being able to have different scopes AND things like silences, underslung grenade launchers and so forth. This is a BIG thing for some people - because silencers mean you don't appear on radar and so forth. The reason i have gone off into this strange topic is this, lots of people just don't GET why people would want that, among other things. And these people are all people who play on 'hardcore' servers (myself included, not because i think i'm particularly hardcore - oh but i am sir. i am - but because they are the most common available and i've become very used to what it takes to drop someone - short burst from the P90, one, MAYBE two shots from a rifle - and its become very hard to readjust. I die all the time because i expect someone to be dead and they arent.. moving on). Its the same with this. If someone is used to knife fighting, and runs into a server - or servers - that people scoff at the idea, it'll be a big shock. It doesnt mean you can gasp and act surprised because the 'knife etiquette' is gone, because it never existed. Some people are just used to some things, it doesnt mean that everyone who doesnt act that way is somehow being rude or inconsiderate or base or backwards or strange or offensive..
Spygon said:
I remeber you used to hit the wall or floor with your knife on cs to make a load noise that was a sign for do you want a knife fight?.
Happens very rarely on cod4 but most fps have got too frantic to stop and ask for a knife fight.
I remember that too, it was a really good ambush tactic. I play very little CS anymore, and occasionally i'll play DoD, but not often. Its pretty much just CoD lately and until a true competitor comes alone it probably will just be CoD (small map selection or not). And the problem with CoD - and pretty much all other FPS now - is that you can't just stand around dancing for a knife fight, its too fast, and i tend to like it fast.
Side note: One day i will get to play a FPS that plays a little more realistically, i'm not sure how its even possible but one day i'm sure. I'm young yet. What i mean by this is i like being a sniper. I'm terrible at it - i'm constantly being killed from some random direction, usually behind me - and i can never hit anyone. But i still love it. But one of the things that annoy me about sniping - and the style in general - is you very rarely ever have 'shootouts'. No one moves tactically so snipers never get to line up the perfect shot if a guy creeping around a corner or sneaking through trees. You rarely get two groups of people shooting back and forth down a hallway, because someone will run out, spam grenades, die, but it doesn't matter because they'll be back in a second anyway.
In all the hundreds of hours i've played CoD, i've had probably a handful of times where two small groups shoot it out for a hallway, or a courtyard, mostly because its too easy to flank and no one wants to work together, especially when you can rambo-style it, grenade spam and so forth.
In fact the only game i've ever found where there were consistent 'shootout' events was the old Firearms Half-life mod. I loved that mod. From the types of guns to the 'classes' to the ability to actually build fortifications with things like sandbags. Maybe thats why there are no shootouts, modern FPS often don't have 'protection' goals. I know that there is one game style in CoD that does but i can NEVER find severs for it, the destroy/defend style is close but again, i almost always ends up run and gun because there is 2-3 things to defend.
No, i would really like to see a online FPS where the big point is to hold/defend/fortify an area, where you can build sandbags and razorwire and maybe even minefields (no turrets though, plz) where you have actual sniper nests and machinegun spots where its hard to assault the area, where a team has to work hard, and consistantly, and together to manage to win not a single point, but many. First one, then back, then back until finally reaching the HQ.
I guess i'm wishing for more than Deathmatch. Team Deathmatch. Deathmatch where you have to kill everyone and maybe if you're lucky you can plant a bomb first..
Quake Wars Enemy Territory got it right, in my opinion - and i'm sad i never played it, i wonder how popular it still is - where you got points for being on the winning team, for healing team members, gaining objectives, repairing, healing and so forth. Not just killing. In fact, if i remember killing gained you the LEAST amount of points. It really prompted people to work together to get the most points and win the maps.
Don't mind the off-topic rant.
