Poll: Legal responsiblity

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Amnestic post=18.73123.784869 said:
There's a difference between killing an animals bred to feed us and killing animals which are there for entertainment or education.
TheNecroswanson post=18.73123.784878 said:
Then from your perspective being alive is immoral. Great job Judge Death.
1. Vegetarians exist.
2. Vegetarians do not suffer from malnutrition.
3. Therefore, it is possible to not eat meat and live
4. Therefore, it is illogical to claim the eating of meat is utilitarian in nature in modern society
 

conquerworm

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This kid has proven that he is unable to tell the difference between right and wrong, and I hope to God that they put him away for as long as it takes.

Did you never, do anything wrong when you where ten? Did you ALWAYS know what was right from wrong? or did you have to learn it? How did you learn it? From TV? Parents? Did you never do anything illegal and not realize till later?

Put him away for as long as it takes? Wow, thats harsh. Sure he did wrong but if the punishment to fit the crime, you'd have a death sentence, so would the rest of the world. Show me a perfect person. Me, HAHAHAHAHA, yah right. :p
 

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TheNecroswanson post=18.73123.784902 said:
conquerworm post=18.73123.784894 said:
This kid has proven that he is unable to tell the difference between right and wrong, and I hope to God that they put him away for as long as it takes.

Did you never, do anything wrong when you where ten? Did you ALWAYS know what was right from wrong? or did you have to learn it? How did you learn it? From TV? Parents? Did you never do anything illegal and not realize till later?

Put him away for as long as it takes? Wow, thats harsh. Sure he did wrong but if the punishment to fit the crime, you'd have a death sentence, so would the rest of the world. Show me a perfect person. Me, HAHAHAHAHA, yah right. :p
Well the problem is, is that I myself by the time I was 8 understood the difference between rigt and wrong, and crime and punishment. If he does not understand these then it is on the parents. But the kid had the capacity to scale a fence and bludgeon animals to death. He certainly has some capacity behind the image of an innocent child. I didn't have an attention span that great until I was 13.
It's a proven early sign of a serial killer. And you're just dismissing the facts on the grounds it's a child. Killer were kdis once too, and a lot of the time, yeah, they hurt/killed animals.

ooooo, You bit... WHAT DEFINES RIGHT? and WHAT DEFINES WRONG? Did you know that Hitler thought that killing Jews was right.... So where do you get your definition of Right and Wrong? How do you know if your Definition of Right and Wrong is right?

and you where must have been born with this knowledge? if not where did it come from?
 

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Also, I am not a serial killer nor do I like to harm others. In a fight, I take it more then give because I would rather suffer then hurt the other person... Am I an exception to that rule?
 

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conquerworm post=18.73123.784925 said:
ooooo, You bit... WHAT DEFINES RIGHT? and WHAT DEFINES WRONG? Did you know that Hitler thought that killing Jews was right.... So where do you get your definition of Right and Wrong? How do you know if your Definition of Right and Wrong is right?
That supposes that right and wrong are absolute opposites or a dichotomy. ;)

BTW:
conquerworm post=18.73123.784848 said:
Individualist - Self Centered existence, Its all ok, so long as you don't in peed on someone else.
The word is "impede".
 
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conquerworm post=18.73123.784925 said:
ooooo, You bit... WHAT DEFINES RIGHT? and WHAT DEFINES WRONG?
Initially, society, then the individual.

conquerworm post=18.73123.784925 said:
Did you know that Hitler thought that killing Jews was right.... So where do you get your definition of Right and Wrong?
Society imbues social taboos on "wrong" things, so that even before we are able to formalize the concepts of ethical behavior, we are reluctant to break them. A 7 year old should be very well versed in these unspoken rules.
If he is not, tell me, how is it he is able to speak?
 

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conquerworm post=18.73123.784929 said:
Also, I am not a serial killer nor do I like to harm others. In a fight, I take it more then give because I would rather suffer then hurt the other person... Am I an exception to that rule?
Anecdotal evidence VS psychological study on the those who have already killed that was later put into practice to counsel and prevent criminal offense.

There are many kids that never become psychopathic despite being very interested in killing animals. However if the child is problematic, or the parents are concerned the kid is studied.
 

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Alex_P post=18.73123.784751 said:
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For me this isn't animal cruelty in itself. It's not as if the crocodile eats broccoli, right? Some animals have to die one way or another to keep the croc alive. Law of nature. If someone keeps a big snake as a pet and feeds it mice, is he a criminal? Or if you buy some meat for your dog or cat. Maybe you don't kill an animal yourself nor feed your pet a live one, but death is death.
How 'bout blundgeoning animals to death with rocks?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7649876.stm

-- Alex
Great I have to take back my earlier comments. Thanks a lot kid! *grumbles*
Okay, now I guess you guys can feel free to lay into him, roasting on a spit seems apt. ^^'
 

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John Galt post=18.73123.784702 said:
I say freedom. He's only seven. He doesn't even know what rational thought is, let alone how to apply it.
He's seven, yes he does. Humans are slow developers yes, but not that slow. Compassion and conscience should have developed well before seven. If they haven't there never going to develop, and while a sociopath can function in society but the ones that do aren't liking to be doing stuff like this.

give the parents the bill (who lets their seven year old out at night?).
This really should go without saying.

Take the kid to counseling and psychological evaluation bar minimum.
 

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Well hold on now, it's not like he was skinning a cat - he was feeding a crocodile. Is it cruelty to animals to feed a mouse to a snake, or crickets to a lizard? Not to mention that all boys want to see animals eat other animals. It's neat. The fact that he broke into a zoo is fucked, but calling this 'animal cruelty' is a bit too far.
 

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Mistah Kurtz post=18.73123.784964 said:
Well hold on now, it's not like he was skinning a cat - he was feeding a crocodile. Is it cruelty to animals to feed a mouse to a snake, or crickets to a lizard? Not to mention that all boys want to see animals eat other animals. It's neat. The fact that he broke into a zoo is fucked, but calling this 'animal cruelty' is a bit too far.
Read the BBC article, he beat them with rocks too apparently. Don't worry though, I thought that too initially, now I'm...conflicted.
 

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Mistah Kurtz post=18.73123.784964 said:
Well hold on now, it's not like he was skinning a cat - he was feeding a crocodile. Is it cruelty to animals to feed a mouse to a snake, or crickets to a lizard? Not to mention that all boys want to see animals eat other animals. It's neat. The fact that he broke into a zoo is fucked, but calling this 'animal cruelty' is a bit too far.
Again, beat animals to death with a rock.
 

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Amnestic post=18.73123.784971 said:
Mistah Kurtz post=18.73123.784964 said:
Well hold on now, it's not like he was skinning a cat - he was feeding a crocodile. Is it cruelty to animals to feed a mouse to a snake, or crickets to a lizard? Not to mention that all boys want to see animals eat other animals. It's neat. The fact that he broke into a zoo is fucked, but calling this 'animal cruelty' is a bit too far.
Again, beat animals to death with a rock.
Ah, I didn't see that in the article - in that case he may have some psychological issues and should at least see a therapist.
 

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Khell_Sennet post=18.73123.784856 said:
AntiAntagonist post=18.73123.784744 said:
Yeah, we tend to confuse the two. Same with gators and crocs or toads and frogs.

Turtle - Frog - Aquatic
Tortoise - Toad - Land
OBJECTION (\\'o')>
/Phonenix_Wright
Clickies [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle#Turtle.2C_tortoise.2C_or_terrapin.3F]
Turtle/Tortoise is actually not so dead-set as that.
Hehe. Yeah, I use those generalities for taxonomy. Thought someone would get me on the toads (pretty sure there's one or two that can swim).

Weird things in nature, like whales having vestigial legs.
 

conquerworm

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Initially, society, then the individual.
And inherently, there in lies the problem...

society of cannibal's, eating another human is ok. NA, not so much. Is it by regional society or global. Is NA right and the rest of the world wrong?
 

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conquerworm post=18.73123.784672 said:
Are you serious? This is such a stupid poll. And the kid is not screwed up, just interested. Is that a crime now. Now the article was unclear as to if the kid killed the animals or if they died because he feed them to the croc. ether way, if any of you can honestly say that you have never killed and animal, reptile or otherwise then you can throw the first stone. If this kid is guilt of anything its being ignorant and interested. If thats a crime then lock up the entire population.

I personally believe in option 2. Cruelty to animals is almost the universal sign that someone's going to grow up and put a powerdrill through a woman's skull and make nice catsuit out of her flesh.

When I was a kid I killed gophers, rats, snakes, turtles, frogs, and so on. I would hunt deer and birds for food. Does that mean I am a horrible person. No. Sure he shouldn't have broken in to the place but killing the animals, I say good on him. PETA-Tards, if you don't like what I have to say, ask me for my email and it is yours to spam... :p

if it was human on human violences or feeding a human to the animal then I would say that there needs to be something done.
Actually Yes if you spent your childhood killing various small animals I think that does make you a horrible person, or at least a horrible child.