Poll: marajauna legalization
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You dissapoint me. Seriously, you act like you know what freedoms people should and shouldn't have. To say that people "don't know what is best for them" is rediculous, theat's completely subjective to their thought's, and not your right to decide. As others have said, weed isn't addictive, nor particularly harmful to the body. Weed doesn't destroy societies, people do. Oh and seriously, give me an example of drugs destroying society.oppp7 said:
China with opium. Not sure about the date but opium destroyed them. Why keep people from doing what they want to other people? Isn't the planet based on survival of the fittest?Sightless Wisdom said:
Anyways, the person I'm replying to was talking about all drugs, not just weed. I know stoners, and they are stupid because of it. I don't like the idea that my tax money is feeding wastes on society.
The ones I know will be...Sightless Wisdom said:
And the survival of the fittest thing is an example of a philosophy question that's hard to argue for or against, like if people should have complete control of their lives. If a friend is going to do something you know they will regret, do you stop them? Yes if you're not an ass. Truthfully I'm not sure how to argue against suicide though...
From a purely economic standpoint, I'd say the legalization of cannabis (A/N: Using the word "cannabis" makes people take you more seriously. If you say "marijuana," you're just a stoner who wants an excuse. "Cannabis" is for fancypants people) would be more or less a good thing. With high taxes on the junk (junk is also a very professional word), much like cigarettes, factored in with the shocking amount of people who are absolutely dependent on getting their fix, and maybe the government will have justification for throwing around two million dollar bonuses in a recession.
In regards to health issues, I can't say much (depending on who I ask, cannabis is either concentrated evil which makes you channel Charles Manson, or the very wings of the angels made smokeable), but, assuming that with legalization comes public availability at your local 7/11, the two main concerns, that marijuana is a gateway drug and that harder stuff is being mixed in would be more or less destroyed because there would be no more dealers.
In regards to health issues, I can't say much (depending on who I ask, cannabis is either concentrated evil which makes you channel Charles Manson, or the very wings of the angels made smokeable), but, assuming that with legalization comes public availability at your local 7/11, the two main concerns, that marijuana is a gateway drug and that harder stuff is being mixed in would be more or less destroyed because there would be no more dealers.
Yeah, you're sort of all over the place here...First off, there will obviously be those who live off welfare, with or without drugs, and to them would leagalization really matter, I mean it's really easy to get weed especially, even though it's illeagal. Yeah I understand the concept of survival of the fittest thing but we were talking about a persons own rights, as in the case of suicide. Last, if a friend is going to commit suicide, you try to convince them that there is some reason they shouldn't, if they are resoloute, they still have the right to die if they want.oppp7 said:
Actually, I have a legitimate qualm to this argument. Since cannabis grows robustly in any non-Arctic climate, how can government hope to regulate it? Sure, you'll have people buying government-grown, but it'll also most likely be taxed and have a relatively high purchase price. If I know people (especially during this economy), wouldn't people still sell cannabis illegally at a fraction of the cost than the government's prices? Wouldn't we still have problems with raids and prison overcrowding, and also see a fraction of projected income from the taxed substance?SideburnsPuppy said:
Point in short: since the distribution is already proven effective for an illegitimate substance, how can government hope to regulate and tax it?
Yes, but to say that somone doesn't know what's best for them and that their decisions should be taken away from them is still insanity.oppp7 said:
I personally don't think marijuana should be legalized.
However, I'm all for it being decriminalized, so that we aren't clogging the jails with weed smokers. It's really a harmless drug, when in the right hands, and like everything else, the wrong hands can make a bad situation out of anything.
However, I'm all for it being decriminalized, so that we aren't clogging the jails with weed smokers. It's really a harmless drug, when in the right hands, and like everything else, the wrong hands can make a bad situation out of anything.
tried it, didnt particularly like it as much as other things... um, but I have seen some people really screw up their lives with it, but for some it is a way to calm down and chill, but then again there are many other things that work just as well.
Heart of Darkness said:
I know little about how they would tax it, all I can say is that I can make large amounts of alcohol at home. Not bad stuff either, and anyone can do this with little effort. The government still successfully taxes drinking.zeldakong64 said:
Perhaps the difference is that commercially grown green can be mass produced, it would be hard for the home-horticulturists to compete with the tiny production costs of a farm industry.
"Homegrown" is a different story. Sure, you can make it at home, but trying to sell it would be illegal. Besides, most people don't know how to make alcohol at home, and I'm assuming you have some sort of specialized equipment to help make it. Which, again, most people wouldn't have access to. Correct me if I'm wrong, however.Actual said:
And perhaps mass-grown would "weed" out the competitors of the homegrown variety, but then again, maybe not. It'll be a toss up between supply/demand, price, and convenience.
Well what other people do with themselves is really not my business, if people wanna do it, I'm not going to object.
All I know is that pot makes people useless. It made me useless, it still makes a lot of my friends useless. I wouldn't consider dating or even being serious friends with a regular pot user. Not because I think they're bad people, but because I know how incredibly useless they are.
It's a bit of a vague answer, but I don't think we, as a society, should condone pot use. I'm not qualified to say whether it's best to prevent through education and through breaking the taboo by legalising it, or by keeping it illegal, but whichever is better is the one I support.
All I know is that pot makes people useless. It made me useless, it still makes a lot of my friends useless. I wouldn't consider dating or even being serious friends with a regular pot user. Not because I think they're bad people, but because I know how incredibly useless they are.
It's a bit of a vague answer, but I don't think we, as a society, should condone pot use. I'm not qualified to say whether it's best to prevent through education and through breaking the taboo by legalising it, or by keeping it illegal, but whichever is better is the one I support.
Considering how alcohol does worse things physically and mentally, I'd say legalizing it isn't that bad of an idea. And while I personally wouldn't smoke it, I have a few friends who smoke it and are doing OK with it.
Make it legal but you can't do it outside of your own home, or without the owner of the properties consent, and put a tax on it.
So alcohol should be banned as well?Mewick_Alex said:
If it's legalized, it should be sold in state-owned shops, which would sell nothing but marijuana-based products. Dealers would be out of a job, the state would have more money, and it would be easier to get hold of it.
