Poll: Mass Effect 2 paramor choices
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oh man, dude, you always crack me upMonkfish Acc. said:
i completely agree with you, though, about Ashley. god, i hated her so bad. the "Sophie's Choice" in ME1 was so not even a choice for me. "Who am i going to sacrifice? The stupid, xenophobic human girl, or a character i'm ambivalent toward. Hmmmmmm..."
OT: i picked Tali, 'cause i liked her voice and she seemed sweet.
I played Mass Effect 2 more than a couple of times with male Shepard and I chose every option I could. But I kinda liked Jack the most cause she's a damaged crazy girl. She has character. Miranda is a boring bimbo, Tali was always boring with that helmet and she's kinda annoying, whiny. I really don't understand why most Mass Effect fans like Tali. And sticking with ME1 romance option didn't seem like something my Shepard would do. So I'm importing my Jack romance playthrough in ME3 probably.
Too bad Kasumi is not a romance choice. If she was I'd have chosen her every time.
Too bad Kasumi is not a romance choice. If she was I'd have chosen her every time.
In ME1 I tried sooo hard to get with tali but she wasn't into shep at the time so i went with liara. Then in ME2 tali was interested so i got with her but then I bought the new shadow broker dlc and liaras interesting again even if her and shep argue like on old married couple over the ENTIRE FREAKING DLC! So im a little stuck...I would like shep to be loyal and blah blah blah but tali just reminds me a lot of my girlfriend so I'm very...confused.
Over multiple playthroughs I looked at all the possible relationship choices. I think most are fairly interesting, save a few (Miranda and Jacob being very bland and way too easy and straightforward). IT was nice to see a little more thought put into the relationship dynamics. However as far as a serious playthrough goes, I will have no romanced characters. IT all seems too weird and stupid for the way my original Shepard plays, so he kinda just says no to everyone. The only person who beat him to the punch was Mordin, who 'let him down easy'.
On a side note, I think the relationship I liked the best was one with Liara carried over from ME1 and finished in the Shadow Broker DLC. It had some depth to it, and felt more rewarding in the end for having continued it rather than a quick scene you get before the Omega 4 relay. Shepard and Liara is a relationship that feels like it has plenty more going for it. I guess that is due in part to the fact its the only real continuable romance from ME1 at this point (you can remain loyal with Ashley/Kaiden but nothing else is built upon in ME2 with them).
On a side note, I think the relationship I liked the best was one with Liara carried over from ME1 and finished in the Shadow Broker DLC. It had some depth to it, and felt more rewarding in the end for having continued it rather than a quick scene you get before the Omega 4 relay. Shepard and Liara is a relationship that feels like it has plenty more going for it. I guess that is due in part to the fact its the only real continuable romance from ME1 at this point (you can remain loyal with Ashley/Kaiden but nothing else is built upon in ME2 with them).
Seeing as the Geth forced her species from their homeworld and killed millions, perhaps billions of them, it's understandable that she'd have some prejudice towards them. Also, you can see that she's able to look past it when it's in the team's best interests.Internet Kraken said:
It's understandable, but still not excusable. Just because I can understand why she's prejudiced doesn't make it any less awkward and uncomfortable. It's just not something I can overlook, as so many other people seem to be capable of doing for some reason.Omikron009 said:
And? She was going to use genocide to do so. Her father was developing weapons designed to take down the entire Geth network. Besides, you act like there's nothing wrong about kicking the Geth off the homeworld when they have just as much entitlement to it as the Quarians.tellmeimaninja said:
You know what really bugs me about jack? That it seems like the only way to make her more stable is to get into a relationship to her. When you don't romance her, she just spends the rest of the game telling you to fuck off.Hashime said:
Well, you sort of can. It's really the only "relationship" that I can tolerate, though I don't choose to pursue it.Straying Bullet said:
That's sort of the same boat as Ashley though, and people use that against her. Her grandfather was completely stripped of notable rank because he wanted to save his men against an invading Turian fleet. They tried to hold out, but the Turians were killing civilians and they were running out of supplies. Growing up in a military family, you don't shake things like that off. Her "Xenophobia" was understandable yet people still call her an anti-alien *****.Omikron009 said:
Wait...wut?Treeinthewoods said:
Miranda wasn't in the first...
My Shepards get no one, unless I'm going for achievements.
He's a "The mission comes first." kind of guy.
But just because they were meant to be emotionless machines doesn't change the fact that they have become something else, and have to be viewed as such. Thinking of them as nothing more than machines is exactly why the war started and why it continues. Also the Geth do not support genocide, as evidence by them not wiping the Quarians out entirely or pursuing the conflict any further than the conquered Quarian systems.tellmeimaninja said:
I just find it odd that so many people can get past her racism, especially when I've heard so many people ***** about Ashley being racist. Ashley is an alien lover when compared to Tali.
I'm guessing he meant to say Liara based on the description. Still, odd that you would mix those two characters up when they have very little in common.LogicNProportion said:
Tali, she was interesting, she had an almost adorable little crush on you and all.
Oh, and in Lair of the Shadow Broker, Liara says she knows Tali has a thing for you and "Hopes you'll be happy together" - which is a blessing I guess, seing as I bonked her in ME1.
Oh, and in Lair of the Shadow Broker, Liara says she knows Tali has a thing for you and "Hopes you'll be happy together" - which is a blessing I guess, seing as I bonked her in ME1.
Now now Ninja, I have a lot of respect for you (another person who likes the Sangheili is okay by me) but still, I feel I must point out a few things:tellmeimaninja said:
While she might be tough and aggressive, I would never call Ashley a '*****'.
She demonstrates herself to be a loving daughter, protective older sister and a determined leader in the right situations. She's also demonstrated signs of compassion, take for instance meeting Samesh Bahtia on the Citadel (the mission involving recovering his dead wife who died on Eden Prime), Ashley takes the time to comfort him and tell him how much his wife loved him. Similarly although she has been nasty to Liara from time to time, after Benezia dies she does hint to Shepard that he should probably go and talk to Liara because losing her mother 'has to hurt'.
It might not justify everything but if she truly didn't care about Liara she wouldn't have made that suggestion.
Actually the main reason Ashley has any distrust against aliens isn't based on irrational fear or even racial hate. The main reason she has trust issues in the first place is because of how her grandfather was the first human ever to surrender to an alien race, and that in turn has blacklisted her family name and her career her whole life. That's the reason why she distrusts them.
That said, she isn't 'against' aliens. She just argues that they shouldn't be relied on to stay as allies, she says that humanity shouldn't turn them down as allies but at the same time shouldn't bet everything on them staying allies. She argues that the Council races will always think of their own people above the security of humanity and that therefore, humanity shouldn't hold out hope that they'll come and save them in the end.
Seriously though. That's as far as it actually goes, it's hardly outright hatred. It's more just caution, and caution with justification. Especially considering how little the Council help the team out over the course of the story.
That said, on Virmire Ashley happily volunteers to assist the Salarian team and takes orders from Kirrahe with no issue, working well with a team composed entirely of aliens and not only doesn't complain, she's happy to do it.
She also at one point (elevator conversation) says to Tali that humans are angry at the Quarians about the Geth attacking Eden Prime and in turn expresses her hope that Tali helping them out with the Saren mission will improve relations between humans and Quarians.
She also at one point clearly says that she doesn't believe humanity is superior, and openly despises the ideas of Terra Firma. Believing them to just be xenophobic jackals and arguing quite often that humans do not have the right to mistreat alien races.
By the way, I apologize if I came across as rude here. Certainly not my intention, least of all when talking to someone I have a fair degree of respect for.