Poll: ME2 Final Choice

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kampori said:
Destroying the ship is stupid, and all who did should feel ashamed that they are going to let all sentient life die.
Well we all made the decision knowing that it didn't really matter which option we picked. Whether we kept it or destroyed it, Shepherd is still going to beat the Reapers.

I mean look at the giant decision in ME1. The different results of the paragon and renegade options in ME2 is a few lines of dialog and the fact that one or two unimportant NPCs don't like you.

All sentient life is going to survive either way so we might as well take the opportunity to flip TIM the bird.
 

kampori

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Klitch said:
kampori said:
Destroying the ship is stupid, and all who did should feel ashamed that they are going to let all sentient life die.
Well we all made the decision knowing that it didn't really matter which option we picked. Whether we kept it or destroyed it, Shepherd is still going to beat the Reapers.

I mean look at the giant decision in ME1. The different results of the paragon and renegade options in ME2 is a few lines of dialog and the fact that one or two unimportant NPCs don't like you.

All sentient life is going to survive either way so we might as well take the opportunity to flip TIM the bird.
Of course. I agree with you. As far as the GAME goes no, it makes absolutely no difference what we choose. Shepard will always win/life will survive. (if not... then I applaud BioWare for a randomly silly but bold move)

What I should have said is... well, if this were real, and not a game. In reality, Shepard would pose no threat to them.. (again, as far as our knowledge permits us to know so far)

In a game, of course... but in reality, not so much. I was talking about 'reality'. Sorry, I should have made it clear.
 

Timmibal

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Yeah, I'm going to give an egomaniacal douchebag who has already proven himself to be untrustworthy a space station of unknown power whose only proven purpose is to churn out reapers.
 

Dark Harbinger

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Ah well, I was only thinking of Humanity when I dropped off the keys, even if the Illusive Man does turn nasty, I think my Shepard can handle him, I mean, coming back to life is one thing and saving the galaxy is another, but if my Shepard can headbutt a Krogan, he can handle anything. :D
 

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kampori said:
I don't understand why poeple would even consider destroying the ship.

It possesses unlimited technological knowledge that could/will help defeat the Reapers. The Reapers are the ONLY threat in the universe that could kill everything. The Illusive Man? He is just a man/machine. He would cause nothing more than a civil war.. that is NOTHING compared to what the Reapers will do. The Ship is, to me, the only proper means (as far as ME1 & ME2 goes) for real success against the Reapers.

The Illusive man is nothing, NOTHING. He is the boss of an expansion AT MOST. He is not the real villain, he is not worth worrying about. I trust him completely.

Destroying the ship is stupid, and all who did should feel ashamed that they are going to let all sentient life die.
Well the ship is dangerous as it mind-f***s people, it's known that Sovereign could do that to people too, so the idea of sitting aboard it and trying to 'figure it out' seems like the perfect way to go insane and become a Reaper slave.

You are talking in absolutes about something that is entirely unknowable.
 

kampori

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Klitch said:
kampori said:
Destroying the ship is stupid, and all who did should feel ashamed that they are going to let all sentient life die.
Well we all made the decision knowing that it didn't really matter which option we picked. Whether we kept it or destroyed it, Shepherd is still going to beat the Reapers.

I mean look at the giant decision in ME1. The different results of the paragon and renegade options in ME2 is a few lines of dialog and the fact that one or two unimportant NPCs don't like you.

All sentient life is going to survive either way so we might as well take the opportunity to flip TIM the bird.
It's true of course. And you pose the only logical reason as to why the ship should be destroyed. I guess I have no proper counter-argument than to say the positives outway the negatives. None of us really can know the full extent of this argument, as we both only know fragments of survived data about the Reapers.

I think the possible threat of indoctrination compared to the possibility of knowing the true extent of Reaper technology/understanding/weaknesses etc is far more important. If anything, expose only a small fragment of people to the ship. If anything, those few thousand will be brainwashed, and the killed.. those few thousand mean nothing compared to all life. If this risk of a few lives can possibly pose the only chance for sentient life in the galaxy, of course it's worth it.
 

kampori

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Indecipherable said:
kampori said:
I don't understand why poeple would even consider destroying the ship.

It possesses unlimited technological knowledge that could/will help defeat the Reapers. The Reapers are the ONLY threat in the universe that could kill everything. The Illusive Man? He is just a man/machine. He would cause nothing more than a civil war.. that is NOTHING compared to what the Reapers will do. The Ship is, to me, the only proper means (as far as ME1 & ME2 goes) for real success against the Reapers.

The Illusive man is nothing, NOTHING. He is the boss of an expansion AT MOST. He is not the real villain, he is not worth worrying about. I trust him completely.

Destroying the ship is stupid, and all who did should feel ashamed that they are going to let all sentient life die.
Well the ship is dangerous as it mind-f***s people, it's known that Sovereign could do that to people too, so the idea of sitting aboard it and trying to 'figure it out' seems like the perfect way to go insane and become a Reaper slave.

You are talking in absolutes about something that is entirely unknowable.
I agree in part. Read the post above me. I only read yours after I posted the latest reply. Apologies, but the argument is almost the same.
 

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DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.
 

Zhukov

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"Hey, I know, let's give the Illusive Man a facility that is used to make baby reapers and indoctrinate sentient life forms! No way that could go wrong!"

I blew it up with a smile.
 

DefinitelyPsychotic

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Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.

I am being very serious. Somebody (currently playing Mass Effect 2) could have clicked on this thread by accident, and the author just ruined it for them.
 

Thamous

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DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.

I am being very serious. Somebody (currently playing Mass Effect 2) could have clicked on this thread by accident, and the author just ruined it for them.
No, they ruined it for themselves because they didn't read the title to terribly carefully.
 

Indecipherable

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Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.

I am being very serious. Somebody (currently playing Mass Effect 2) could have clicked on this thread by accident, and the author just ruined it for them.
No, they ruined it for themselves because they didn't read the title to terribly carefully.
I'd liken it to seeing a stove top with the heat coils shining a brilliant red, but still rubbing my face on it because the "Hot" light wasn't on. You can't save everyone from their own stupidity, but they will always find someone else to blame for it.
 

DefinitelyPsychotic

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Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.

I am being very serious. Somebody (currently playing Mass Effect 2) could have clicked on this thread by accident, and the author just ruined it for them.
No, they ruined it for themselves because they didn't read the title to terribly carefully.

No. I'm saying that if they accidentally clicked on it (trying to click on the thread either above or below it), it is the author's fault for not using spoiler tags. Conversation over.
 

kuyo

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I kept the base. I didn't give it to TIM, I kept it. Seeing as I'm the only one with an IFF, TIM can't come after me.
How I did this: It's a secret ending that you can unlock by pausing the game, looking online for possible mods, failing to find any, quitting the game before making the decision, make believe, profit.
 

Thamous

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DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.

I am being very serious. Somebody (currently playing Mass Effect 2) could have clicked on this thread by accident, and the author just ruined it for them.
No, they ruined it for themselves because they didn't read the title to terribly carefully.

No. I'm saying that if they accidentally clicked on it (trying to click on the thread either above or below it), it is the author's fault for not using spoiler tags. Conversation over.
Yes, I suppose if they have cerebral palsy and can't operate their mouse it isn't their fault. However, I don't find it exceedingly difficult to accidentally click on a thread, but maybe thats just me.
 

Indecipherable

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DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.

I am being very serious. Somebody (currently playing Mass Effect 2) could have clicked on this thread by accident, and the author just ruined it for them.
No, they ruined it for themselves because they didn't read the title to terribly carefully.

No. I'm saying that if they accidentally clicked on it (trying to click on the thread either above or below it), it is the author's fault for not using spoiler tags. Conversation over.
And how would a spoiler tag save them if they clicked the wrong thread instead of one directly above or below it?
 

DefinitelyPsychotic

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Indecipherable said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.

I am being very serious. Somebody (currently playing Mass Effect 2) could have clicked on this thread by accident, and the author just ruined it for them.
No, they ruined it for themselves because they didn't read the title to terribly carefully.

No. I'm saying that if they accidentally clicked on it (trying to click on the thread either above or below it), it is the author's fault for not using spoiler tags. Conversation over.
And how would a spoiler tag save them if they clicked the wrong thread instead of one directly above or below it?

Because naturally, you don't realize that you have clicked on the wrong thread until you have read the first post of the author. And please don't say "but you could just look at the thread's title!" If you thought you clicked on the right one (hence it being an accident), why should you have to read the thread's title AGAIN?
 

Bobbity

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This was a stupid and forced decision, imo. It's senseless to destroy the facility, but there was no way in hell that I would give the Illusive Man the Collector technology. Why couldn't I pretend to destroy it, and call in the Alliance/Citadel? :S

DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Indecipherable said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.

I am being very serious. Somebody (currently playing Mass Effect 2) could have clicked on this thread by accident, and the author just ruined it for them.
No, they ruined it for themselves because they didn't read the title to terribly carefully.

No. I'm saying that if they accidentally clicked on it (trying to click on the thread either above or below it), it is the author's fault for not using spoiler tags. Conversation over.
And how would a spoiler tag save them if they clicked the wrong thread instead of one directly above or below it?

Because naturally, you don't realize that you have clicked on the wrong thread until you have read the first post of the author. And please don't say "but you could just look at the thread's title!" If you thought you clicked on the right one (hence it being an accident), why should you have to read the thread's title AGAIN?
How often do you accidentally click the wrong thread, and how many people still haven't finished Mass Effect 2? It's been out for over a year now, and even PS3 players should have had a good crack at it by now.
 

Indecipherable

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DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Indecipherable said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Thamous said:
DefinitelyPsychotic said:
Next time, please use spoiler tags.

OT: I decided to destroy it. I hate the Illusive Man. He's such a douche bag.
In a thread title "Final Choice"? I honestly can't tell if your being serious.

I am being very serious. Somebody (currently playing Mass Effect 2) could have clicked on this thread by accident, and the author just ruined it for them.
No, they ruined it for themselves because they didn't read the title to terribly carefully.

No. I'm saying that if they accidentally clicked on it (trying to click on the thread either above or below it), it is the author's fault for not using spoiler tags. Conversation over.
And how would a spoiler tag save them if they clicked the wrong thread instead of one directly above or below it?

Because naturally, you don't realize that you have clicked on the wrong thread until you have read the first post of the author. And please don't say "but you could just look at the thread's title!" If you thought you clicked on the right one (hence it being an accident), why should you have to read the thread's title AGAIN?
So you need to put spoilers not only in the title for the people who can't click on a piece of text but also in every post in case they speed read and wreck things for themselves. Got it.