Poll: Metal and Rap Fans
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Metal all the way, I hate rap, I also dislike it when people say metal isn't party music. They just don't know the real meaning of epic parties!
My favourite bands have to Bullet For my Valentine and Thrice (More a hardcore, but some of their songs hit metal perfectly)
My favourite bands have to Bullet For my Valentine and Thrice (More a hardcore, but some of their songs hit metal perfectly)
Woah, even Anthrax & Public Enemy?BonsaiK said:
I prefer metal, but I don't hate rap & hip hop at all. I quite like a lot of 80's rap and the odd bit off hip hop but for the main I just don't really listen to it.
I like both. Metal more so.
Like it or not, metal takes more talent than rap. In metal, there needs to be a programmer, a mixer, a guitarist, a drummer, a bass player, and a vocalist.
In rap you need a vocalist and a mixer. In metal you must make almost all the sounds from scratch. In rap, you just use a computer.
Like it or not, metal takes more talent than rap. In metal, there needs to be a programmer, a mixer, a guitarist, a drummer, a bass player, and a vocalist.
In rap you need a vocalist and a mixer. In metal you must make almost all the sounds from scratch. In rap, you just use a computer.
Which of the two genres do you prefer if any?
I prefer hardcore, post-hardcore, metalcore etc music, but I also listen to UK Grime music.
Who is / are your favourite metal artist(s)?
Who is / are your favourite rap / hip hop artists?
What's your opinion on when the two come together?
...They must never come together, it sounds terrible xD.
I prefer hardcore, post-hardcore, metalcore etc music, but I also listen to UK Grime music.
Who is / are your favourite metal artist(s)?
Who is / are your favourite rap / hip hop artists?
...They must never come together, it sounds terrible xD.
I gotta say I prefer metal over hip-hip/rap. Though I can tolerate some hip-hop now.
Metal: Tool, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Between the Buried and Me.
Hip-hop: Beastie Boys, Busdriver, and I guess you could kind of put Rage Against the Machine in this category.
Metal: Tool, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Between the Buried and Me.
Hip-hop: Beastie Boys, Busdriver, and I guess you could kind of put Rage Against the Machine in this category.
Metal, tried rap but couldn't get into it as quickly as I did with metal
Best bands are BMTH, BFMV and Psychostick, as well as Powerglove (check out their cover of Gotta Catch 'em All)
The only times metal and rap have fused well in my opinion were early Linkin Park (Pre-Minutes to Midnight) and Skindred
Best bands are BMTH, BFMV and Psychostick, as well as Powerglove (check out their cover of Gotta Catch 'em All)
The only times metal and rap have fused well in my opinion were early Linkin Park (Pre-Minutes to Midnight) and Skindred
Cliched around here, but yes I much prefer metal. I don't have anything against rap on principle, other than the fact that it saturates the radio and nearly everything I've heard is awful. (sturgeon's law at work I guess.)
It's just usually not my cup of tea anyway though.
How about a metal band covering a rap song and not being awful?
It's just usually not my cup of tea anyway though.
How about a metal band covering a rap song and not being awful?
I like alot of hip-hop/rap. Golden Age, G-Funk, mainstream, even the dance/hip-hop combinations that have begun to spring up. Not everything on the charts is bad either, both Kid Cudi, Kanye West and Eminem has their qualities. The only stuff i really don't like are overly pretentious and preachy political rap and the old, tired gangsta cliches that came during the mid-2000's.
I like some power metal. Alestorm, Nightwish, Sabaton, Edguy and stuff like that. Most "heavier" stuff turns into low-pitch mush for me. And growling is an instant turn-off. But that is just my opinion and i don't really have problems with metal and metalheads.
I like some power metal. Alestorm, Nightwish, Sabaton, Edguy and stuff like that. Most "heavier" stuff turns into low-pitch mush for me. And growling is an instant turn-off. But that is just my opinion and i don't really have problems with metal and metalheads.
Metal! I listen to some rap, but the problem is that my only exposure to hip-hop and rap is on the radio... and that top 40 garbage is just the same kind of song over and over. i can't handle it.
metal radio stations are the same but the difference is that i actively seek out new metal genres and bands cause that is what i want to listen to.
Also, there are a lot of people putting up youtube videos of rap... I've got nothing against that, but we need more metal music up in here. And not that there is anything wrong with Evanescence but lets get a little heavier!
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metal radio stations are the same but the difference is that i actively seek out new metal genres and bands cause that is what i want to listen to.
Also, there are a lot of people putting up youtube videos of rap... I've got nothing against that, but we need more metal music up in here. And not that there is anything wrong with Evanescence but lets get a little heavier!
[youtube]NxU0C8XoLns[/youtube]
[youtube]4DzTHCRmyKs[/youtube]
[youtube]9kyDa5JVGFk[/youtube]
[youtube]0ov5SSVobm0[/youtube]
I would simply say that I greatly enjoy Metal and all but utterly loathe Rap and leave it at that, but while I can safely dismiss the entirety of the genre that has the Hipping and Hopping outright because I really do hate all the myriad varieties found within that genre as a rule, in this day and age you can't just toss out "I like Metal a lot" and expect people to necessarily grasp your true meaning.
The thing about Metal is it's a very expansive genre containing a bewildering variety of bands with an equally bewildering variety of sounds - there are very few "core elements" that one can attribute to all Metal bands universally. People naturally tend to generalize though, and for whatever reason the version of "Metal" that the public perceives is exemplified by the most extreme and off-putting (to general listening audiences) sub-genres out there, or the modern shit that takes those relatively unpalatable sub-genres and then makes it even worse; if they're aware of the less 'extremely niche audience' stuff at all it's probably the old "traditional" fare from 20+ years ago (or modern releases from bands that were around 20+ years ago, which amounts to the same thing in the end).
So to clarify: When I say I like Metal, I mean Metal that the average person on the street hasn't heard of, because the bands that they have heard of are horrible abominations (or really old 'classic' stuff, which I don't hate but am not enthused about either). Pretty much the entirety of the "modern metal" category (Nu Metal, anything with a -core suffix) is irredeemably awful garbage that kids these days like because they are bloody stupid, and you will never sway my opinion on that subject so don't bother trying.
I also do not mean "really obscure Norwegian underground Black Metal" or "the most 'br00tal' Death Metal imaginable!" that a lot of younger Metal fans seem to gravitate towards, which are responsible in the main for the general impression everyone else has of Metal (namely, that it consists entirely of unrelenting sonic onslaughts with vocals that sound like someone gargling battery acid) - I do enjoy quite a few bands that incorporate elements of both those sub-genres mind you, or offshoots/hybrid sub-genres like Melodic Death Metal, but in the main I consider most Black and Death metal to be unpleasant noise.
No, when I say that I like Metal, what I'm referring to are the various (mostly European) bands from sub-genres that John Q. Public doesn't really know anything about: Power Metal, Gothic Metal, Folk Metal, Progressive Metal, Melodic Metal, Symphonic Metal, Symphonic versions of all of the above, etc (and to a lesser extent some NWOBHM and 'traditional' Metal acts). I would toss out the names of my favorite bands, but that would be an unreasonably long list (also I hate classifying things that way).
People who claim to hate Metal all but invariably end up liking quite a bit of the Metal I enjoy once they actually hear it played - my sister would have told you that a couple of years ago, and might still tell you that now, but all the female-fronted Symphonic Metal and the odd Melodic Metal albums in her collection put the lie to that claim; one of her friends heard from her that I'd been listening to Metal all the time recently and announced loudly while I was in earshot that she "hated Metal"... only to tell me she liked the music I was playing an hour or so later (a track from Austrian symphonic Metal band Edenbridge) - I ended up passing a bunch of similar metal albums her way. My father ostensibly loathes anything with the electric guitar, and yet he adores Guilt Machine (Prog-Metal) and various female-fronted Gothic Metal bands. Heck, I've even gotten soccer-mom archetypes to give Metal a fair shake.
That default "oh I don't like Metal" mindset is the reason most of the bands I've discussed in my Guide to Good Music [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/Guide-to-Good-Music-notification-service] have been some variety of Metal - a lot of people would like it if they can be persuaded to overlook the "Metal" label and just listen to it.
The thing about Metal is it's a very expansive genre containing a bewildering variety of bands with an equally bewildering variety of sounds - there are very few "core elements" that one can attribute to all Metal bands universally. People naturally tend to generalize though, and for whatever reason the version of "Metal" that the public perceives is exemplified by the most extreme and off-putting (to general listening audiences) sub-genres out there, or the modern shit that takes those relatively unpalatable sub-genres and then makes it even worse; if they're aware of the less 'extremely niche audience' stuff at all it's probably the old "traditional" fare from 20+ years ago (or modern releases from bands that were around 20+ years ago, which amounts to the same thing in the end).
So to clarify: When I say I like Metal, I mean Metal that the average person on the street hasn't heard of, because the bands that they have heard of are horrible abominations (or really old 'classic' stuff, which I don't hate but am not enthused about either). Pretty much the entirety of the "modern metal" category (Nu Metal, anything with a -core suffix) is irredeemably awful garbage that kids these days like because they are bloody stupid, and you will never sway my opinion on that subject so don't bother trying.
I also do not mean "really obscure Norwegian underground Black Metal" or "the most 'br00tal' Death Metal imaginable!" that a lot of younger Metal fans seem to gravitate towards, which are responsible in the main for the general impression everyone else has of Metal (namely, that it consists entirely of unrelenting sonic onslaughts with vocals that sound like someone gargling battery acid) - I do enjoy quite a few bands that incorporate elements of both those sub-genres mind you, or offshoots/hybrid sub-genres like Melodic Death Metal, but in the main I consider most Black and Death metal to be unpleasant noise.
No, when I say that I like Metal, what I'm referring to are the various (mostly European) bands from sub-genres that John Q. Public doesn't really know anything about: Power Metal, Gothic Metal, Folk Metal, Progressive Metal, Melodic Metal, Symphonic Metal, Symphonic versions of all of the above, etc (and to a lesser extent some NWOBHM and 'traditional' Metal acts). I would toss out the names of my favorite bands, but that would be an unreasonably long list (also I hate classifying things that way).
People who claim to hate Metal all but invariably end up liking quite a bit of the Metal I enjoy once they actually hear it played - my sister would have told you that a couple of years ago, and might still tell you that now, but all the female-fronted Symphonic Metal and the odd Melodic Metal albums in her collection put the lie to that claim; one of her friends heard from her that I'd been listening to Metal all the time recently and announced loudly while I was in earshot that she "hated Metal"... only to tell me she liked the music I was playing an hour or so later (a track from Austrian symphonic Metal band Edenbridge) - I ended up passing a bunch of similar metal albums her way. My father ostensibly loathes anything with the electric guitar, and yet he adores Guilt Machine (Prog-Metal) and various female-fronted Gothic Metal bands. Heck, I've even gotten soccer-mom archetypes to give Metal a fair shake.
That default "oh I don't like Metal" mindset is the reason most of the bands I've discussed in my Guide to Good Music [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/Guide-to-Good-Music-notification-service] have been some variety of Metal - a lot of people would like it if they can be persuaded to overlook the "Metal" label and just listen to it.
I love Metal \m/.
Love me some Crossover/Thrash (Municipal Waste, Gama Bomb, Mantic Ritual)
New Groove Metal is great, too (DevilDriver, Lamb of God)
So pretty much stuff like that, haha.
Love me some Crossover/Thrash (Municipal Waste, Gama Bomb, Mantic Ritual)
New Groove Metal is great, too (DevilDriver, Lamb of God)
So pretty much stuff like that, haha.