Poll: MORAL CHOICE TIME... WOOHOO!

[LightOfDarkness]

Backup the robot's data and memory.
Send out said robot.
When the robot rusts, send someone out to recover it.
Once we reach Earth, rebuild robot and upload data.

Everybody wins!

who do you send out to recover it? they will be killed. and what do you reboot the data on?

Oh that's right...

If it's the really far future, then I backup the robot on a 5 TB SSD.

I send out the scientist after backing up his mind onto another 5 TB SSD, then send him out in some kind of suit designed for this.

He'll be reborn as the perfect scientist robot!

 

[CitySquirrel]

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It is testing humanity's views on all of the following. See if there was a bias against any of the above people. And there was a bias against robots because they are inorganic. And people don't view inorganic life as natural. Much like how people today view gay people as ''unnatural.'' So they have to die first.

Fair enough, then. I go out myself and thus don't have to deal with society anymore. Everybody wins!

 

[Crystalite]

It is testing humanity's views on all of the following. See if there was a bias against any of the above people. And there was a bias against robots because they are inorganic. And people don't view inorganic life as natural. Much like how people today view gay people as ''unnatural.'' So they have to die first.

That really irritates me. It is not a matter of bias. A machine is "unnatural" it is not a product of nature. It is not alive, no matter how complex its programming may be. That does not have anything to do with prejudice against human beeings, because these prejudices are wrong. It is not a bias if it is correct.
Again: Life is a measurable category, it is not a question of oppinion, if something is alive.

 

[supagama]

Um, I'm just wondering this: If the air will kill before the person/robot/alien can make it back to the ship, whats the point of sending anyone out there? They die and the foliage is still out there.

I KNEW HE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THOSE HANDICAPPED PLATES! WE COULDA PARKED CLOSER TO THE FOLIAGE!

the foliage can be recovered at the cost of a life. wich one? you choose

 

[spartan231490]

No matter how sentient he may be, a robot can be rebuilt, and doesnt have a soul, so I send him. Failing that, I go. I won't ask someone to die for a cause unless I expect to die with them.

 

[burningdragoon]

The robot. Even as an AI, he can be saved via backups and such.

My answer.

Also there should be a "draw straws" type option. Double also how is the ship surviving but the robot not able to?

 

[loc978]

Sorry robot, it's AI abuse time. Maybe in a few centuries the Geth will use you as an example in the AI rights movement.

 

[LightOfDarkness]

Where's the moral choice in this? Send the non-living machine that is designed to do jobs not fit for humans or sacrifice someone elses life needlessly? It's like having a potential bomb in front of the courthouse and telling the cops "Okay, you can disarm this bomb yourself, or send the robot."

This was really designed to bring out the inner racist in humans.

People view robots as slaves or machines.(In fact, that is what robot means!) Not as actual beings. Kind of like how people viewed humans with black colored skin hundreds of years ago.

I would pick the robot because that minimizes room for error. But for the sake of this moral discussion, let's say that there is a 0% chance of failure(i.e. dropping or losing the foliage and being incapable of delivering it before you die). I would definitely go out myself because they all have lives to live.

Only difference is, robots AREN'T a race, or a species, or anything. They ARE machines. And they are machines created by us to perform specific tasks to help preserve and better our lives. If I get in an accident and my airbag deploys, saving my life, I'm not going to cry because I just killed my airbag. It was a machine that did it's job. It has no sentient thought, no capability for emotion, and for those religious/spiritual, no soul, just clockwork.

Just like how humans with black colored skin are animals. They were brought here to do specific tasks set to them. Not to be on the same level as us.

Robots are also immortal.
I think that by the time we develop sentient AI that can better itself in unexpected ways, then we can make near-uncorruptable data.

 

[supagama]

Backup the robot's data and memory.
Send out said robot.
When the robot rusts, send someone out to recover it.
Once we reach Earth, rebuild robot and upload data.

Everybody wins!

who do you send out to recover it? they will be killed. and what do you reboot the data on?

Oh that's right...

If it's the really far future, then I backup the robot on a 5 TB SSD.

I send out the scientist after backing up his mind onto another 5 TB SSD, then send him out in some kind of suit designed for this.

He'll be reborn as the perfect scientist robot!

i dont recall giving you a 5 TB SSD.

 

[supagama]

Backup the robot's data and memory.
Send out said robot.
When the robot rusts, send someone out to recover it.
Once we reach Earth, rebuild robot and upload data.

Everybody wins!

who do you send out to recover it? they will be killed. and what do you reboot the data on?

Oh that's right...

If it's the really far future, then I backup the robot on a 5 TB SSD.

I send out the scientist after backing up his mind onto another 5 TB SSD, then send him out in some kind of suit designed for this.

He'll be reborn as the perfect scientist robot!

There are a variety of holes in this situation. But the core question is ''Choose someone to die, who is your first pick?''

exactly

 

[XT inc]

we`ll I would move my ship closer to the foliage have the robot stick its arm out and then go back to earth. I mean If we can get back to earth we can get close enough to the plants that will save us.

Wait why isn`t the ship rusting.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Obviously the robot as long as you don't absolutely need it to get home. The scientist is probably the only one who can make the cure and the hottie and "minority" are both human so why should they die? Send the damn hunk of metal and buy a new one.

 

[Crystalite]

So that means the robot is lesser than humans.
Noted.

Yeah, you can note that

But I might also add: It does not live! Therefore it cannot die!
In this scenario, there is nothing on this robot I could not make a backup of.
Therefor he would not be gone with the destruction of this one body, whereas a human certainly would.

And if someone now says this is racist, because people used to believe one could make backups of black people, I will scream.
Just kidding, it is getting late here.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Backup the robot's data and memory.
Send out said robot.
Once we reach Earth, rebuild robot and upload data.

and what do you reboot the data on?

I'm going out on a limb here but I do think that if this is taking place in SPAAAAAAAACE, we have a computer on the ship. Probably with a lot of harddrive space seeing as we're on a mission and we need the space to record data.

the hard drive is the robot...

That is a glaring flaw in the whole plan. If I was in charge I would have brought some external drives then because having the whole computer dependent on one robot, a robot that is used for many other purposes, sounds dumb to me.

 

[FortheLegion]

Who wouldn't send the robot? You can always back up its memories or repair it when it gets back.
Why don't we have space suits?

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Me:Ok so we don't have space suits.
Robot: YES
Me: That means it's up to you to go and retrieve that plant.
Robot: BUT I WILL RUST. YOU NEED ME TO NAVIGATE.
Me: No problem we can just copy your Brain files and upload them to the ships onboard computer where you can navigate from there and we can later put your mind into a new body.
Robot: SOUNDS LOGICAL. I SHALL GO NOW. *goes out airlock*
Half hour later:
Robot: *drags self into airlock*
Me: Robot did you get the plant?
Robot: YEZ I HAVE RET- VVVZT- REVED THE PLANT
Me: You have saved humanity!!!

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Well obviously the robot...it knows the navigation better than anyone, and it won't feel any pain. Plus, a human life has more intrinsic value than a robot's, and it will be saving the very race that caused its conception. Simples.