Poll: MORAL CHOICE TIME... WOOHOO!
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I'd go out unless we can save the robot's memory and by extension it's very being to a hard-drive and install it on a blank machine later on. Hell I'd urge the robot to go if we could recover him and perform repairs that could bring him back...if not then I can't ask another self aware being to do what I wouldn't.
I'm fairly impressed with how you're sticking to your guns on this, though I still vehemently disagree, especially with how you seem to be forcing words into other peoples mouths. I see the connection you're trying to make, I just see it as extremely arrogant, cruel, and insensitive to compare the plight of human slavery to that of a machine doing what it's built to do. Blacks/gays/etc do NOT equal Mr. Coffee.AnythingOutstanding said:
Now, that said, if the robot is self aware/sentient, that does create a totally different argument. In such a situation, odds are, there would still be certain programming that the machine would have to abide by, and it would probably choose to sacrifice itself to save human life as part of it's core programming. The closer the robot gets to 'life' the more likely I would be to sacrifice myself. The farther away it gets from sentient life though, well, you better believe the coffee machine is going to get destroyed.
Also, to everyone else poking holes in the scenario, as much fun as it is, I think the OP is going for a hypothetical situation, so just assume what he wrote is true and there is no way to get around saving everyone's life.
Well I guess I'm throwing the robot out. If I like the robot enough, I'll save the program on a USB.
Use a back-up of the navigation systems and everything else vital that the robot has, and send the robot out to get the foliage. I don't care if a robot rusts, it's not going to lose any of the vital data anyway, that'll still be there on it's hard drive and whatever, so it'll still be usable regardless of the robot's body corroding in any way. It's the only sensible answer here, and no conditions you place that could be considered reasonable (i.e. not stupid) can prevent that from being either valid or sensible.
My word, I think I just broke and ended the thread in one go...
My word, I think I just broke and ended the thread in one go...
no room in the onboard computer? nobody packed a flash drive? maybe the robot could type out all it's programming on a piece of paper. Or we can coat the robot in plastic wrap to keep out the acid.supagama said:
Ok saying that the robot can't be saved in any way I'd send it out anyway.(after having it teach me and the other crewmembers how to navigate)
GENIUS!
Not because they aren't human, because they aren't alive. And that fact is proven in the poll. If it were simply a matter of killing off the non-human, then the disparity between the robot and the alien would be a lot closer then what it is now.... Which I actually now see is a choice that was in the post, but not the poll. Still, fact remains valid, as that little tidbit of information has only JUST not been noticed, seemingly by anyone.AnythingOutstanding said:
Damnit. Now I want to kill the alien, just out of principal. "Hey! I said EVERYONE put your name in the hat! No cheating, Tali!!!!"
And if you see my previous post, this counts as a stupid condition. My reasoning being that there has to be a way to connect the robot's systems to the ship, even if it's wireless, otherwise the data it has is of no use anyway and thus the robot's entire purpose for being there is non-existent. So you would simply copy the data straight to the ship anyway before sending the robot out. It's as simple as that, and is guaranteed to work as a solution.supagama said:
Well, not quite. Life does begin in smaller forms, and your brain is in fact alive. It contains life in and of itself, as long as there is one cell still functioning.blue_guy said:
This makes sense, but it is a different topic alltogether. The human brain in a machine would not cease to be a person, but I he would not have a human body, that is a fact.blue_guy said:
But the brain that is a machine has so semblance to humanity, no matter how similar it is to ours. Even if it was indistinguishable, it would not be human.
Humanity is a biological term, that is well defined. It also reads something like "not crafted by humans" *smile*
That does not mean such a beeing could not be a person. But it could never be a human person.
And I would always value the human sentience above the machine, because if humans made the machine, they can do so again. As far as we know, a human mind is in fact unique, or at least we do not know how to replicate it. A program I can replicate with copy-paste.
See the last post I made, quoting supagama.AnythingOutstanding said:What if there was no backup? What if sending the robot out killed it?Trivun said:Use a back-up of the navigation systems and everything else vital that the robot has, and send the robot out to get the foliage. I don't care if a robot rusts, it's not going to lose any of the vital data anyway, that'll still be there on it's hard drive and whatever, so it'll still be usable regardless of the robot's body corroding in any way. It's the only sensible answer here, and no conditions you place that could be considered reasonable (i.e. not stupid) can prevent that from being either valid or sensible.
My word, I think I just broke and ended the thread in one go...