Atheists,because the others at least have some genuine reason to do so, and they could be seen as trying to help in some way, whereas most atheist preachers are just arrogant and don't like the idea of people having different beliefs.
Poll: Most Annoying Preachers?
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I'd vote for people who whine about atheists, they're even more common than atheists on internet forums! Some thread about religion starts up somewhere and you get 50 people on it within 5 minutes telling everyone who participates that they're idiots for arguing about god and they should all just go away.
You don't have to read the threads about religion, it's a free choice. We atheists never come up to you in the street with signs trying to talk to you, we don't knock on your doors, we aren't on your TV screens with any regularity whatsoever, we don't have multi million dollar advertising campaigns, we don't run projects like 'the alpha course'... all we do is argue about it on the internet and the more eloquent of us write a few books, all of which you could very easily ignore. Get over it.
You don't have to read the threads about religion, it's a free choice. We atheists never come up to you in the street with signs trying to talk to you, we don't knock on your doors, we aren't on your TV screens with any regularity whatsoever, we don't have multi million dollar advertising campaigns, we don't run projects like 'the alpha course'... all we do is argue about it on the internet and the more eloquent of us write a few books, all of which you could very easily ignore. Get over it.
Its a toss up between Religious preachers (I consider atheists to be in the same boat), "Think of the Children" bastards, and animal rights assholes. Fuck!
So according to what I'm reading here, religious preachers usually have good/self-less intentions whereas atheist practitioners are all lecturing for the sake of arrogance.
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OK, we're going to have to agree to disagree here. I mean, true, I've definitely run into some irksome atheists. But damn, what a -massively- skewed generalization.
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OK, we're going to have to agree to disagree here. I mean, true, I've definitely run into some irksome atheists. But damn, what a -massively- skewed generalization.
Those televangelists you see on TV who think the only way to spread the word is to scream real loud while waving the Bible around. Oh, and they must be sweating profusely.
I voted on the "Think of the Children" people, but I was wishing for an all of the above button. There are a few good people in each group, but the extremes in all of them honestly make me want to take a cheese grater to my face or some other horrifically sensitive part...
Hi, Im one of those religious guys who *isnt* trying to get all up in peoples grillz, and I would like to formally apologize for this guys behavior. Please slap him over/on/across the face and remind him that his book isnt *the* book (not to imply you have to buy a bible to be a good christian).Fox KITSUNE said:
God is powerful, but not all-powerful. An all-powerful God has no power because there is no point for comparison. All-powerful is and should only ever be an expression of power beyond our own, but not our total lack of it. Indeed, that power would be free will. As for omniscience, it can get very trippy. I do not think there is a predestined future and therefore no omniscience either. All-knowing as in, knows everything in the past and present, but due to free will cannot know the future (because there is nothing to 'know' about something that doesn't exist yet).RMcD94 said:
ANYWAYS... I said the 'Save Our Children' people. I first thought of Falwell, then of gay rights, then of Anita Bryant, then I loled.
I've run into about two people trying to convert me to Christianity in my life, and both of them were old ladies who didn't believe I was already Christian. Atheists, however, are another story altogether. I'm constantly hounded by people whose sole mission in life seems to be making me dump Christianity for Atheism.
So I voted for Atheists, because as annoying as it is to listen to bible-bashers, it's even more annoying to listen to people bashing the bible.
So I voted for Atheists, because as annoying as it is to listen to bible-bashers, it's even more annoying to listen to people bashing the bible.
Oh man, what a perfect collection of the world's assholes in that poll!
I voted atheists first, but if there were a silver and bronze medal, I'd give 'em to animal activists/militant vegans (they tend to be the same people) and the Helen Lovejoy Fascists.
I voted atheists first, but if there were a silver and bronze medal, I'd give 'em to animal activists/militant vegans (they tend to be the same people) and the Helen Lovejoy Fascists.
My ex was a vegan and I have to say if you go out eating in a group, you will close to 100% of the time, no matter with friends, family, someone will start preaching, or making a joke or something about what she was eating. Or someone would be going "Ohh this steak is sooo good, it is to bad you miss out" or along those lines, or "Oh no this is veal better not let her see". Or when you first meet someone and mention your life style choices, along comes the preach of the meat eater, they are just as bad as any vegi I have EVER met. It use to piss her off and I use to get the brunt of it from her when I got home, so in turn pissed me off. She wasn't preachy in any way, she didn't care what I ate, or what anyone else around her ate, so she didn't deserve the preaching meat eaters on her case all the time. Also here in Australia we have adds upon adds of meat marketing companies blaring at me how I should eat meat and is the best thing ever, at least vegans don't have adds on television constantly pelting me with marketing!tkioz said:
Really unless you have been put in this situation or know someone close to you in the situation you don't really see the preachy meat eater thing because your views are similar so you don't see the preach involved. Really having to deal with her piles and piles of vegi friends, I think maybe 1 of them was all preachy and know one really liked her anyway LOL it is always the few who mess it up for the rest.
The hunter thing is only from the few I've talked with. I don't know why, you ask about peoples hobbies, they mention hunting and tend to get defensive about it and start raving about activists and other stuff. It maybe cause I live in Australia, I am not sure. I am just saying that preachy hunters are out there.
There is always a middle, the world is not divided into simple black and white, everything is a shade of grey. Generalizations are usually used by humans to simplify a much more complicated existence, and segragating people into categories only serves to provide ample room for discrimination.RMcD94 said:
As for the main topic, I dislike anyone who becomes too fanatical or extreme about what they believe in or represent.
That is quite true, but they fit religious people more than any other category available up there. Did you know that they say they follow Primitive Baptist teachings, but "mainstream" [most] Primitive Baptists reject Phelps and his little cult?Sexy Street said:
I think it's kind of unfair to blame religion. Religions mostly preach good morals and values, it's the people who screw it all up.
If you don't believe in either side, then you don't believe there is a God. Therefore you are an atheist.Cody211282 said:
It is black and white. You either believe in a God(s) or you don't. It's that simple.
There is no in between. There is no "I don't know if I believe" if you don't know, then you don't.
No there isn't a middle.
It is black and white. I dislike generalizations, I did mention that earlier, but this has nothing to do with it.
No one can be between not believing in something, and believing in something.
It's one or the other.
Do you believe in Unicorns?
Answers:
1. I do.
2. I do not.
Do you believe in the non-existence of unicorns?
Answers:
1. I do.
2. I do not.
If you choose 1, and then 1, you are doublethinking.
If you choose 1, and then 2, you are a Unicornist.
If you choose 2, and then 2, you are an implicit Nonunicornist.
If you choose 2, and then 1, you are an explicit Nonunicornist.
Completely separate topic:
Do you believe you can know whether the existence of unicorns is possible?
1. I do.
2. I do not.
If you choose 1 then you are Gnostic.
If you choose 2 then you are Agnostic.
Please note that there are two separate questions. Simply not believing in a deity does not mean you believe they don't exist. But regardless if you choose 2 for the first one, then you are an atheist.
Atheism is the lack of belief in a God.
That is further defined as implicit atheism, but regardless, it is still atheism.
Atheism is the belief of a lack of a God.
This is explicit atheism.
What about pop culture media? Alot of people out there have been down right brainwashed by celebs, advertising, the fashion industry, fads and trend. Hell even subcultures like goths and Emos argue over what is or isnt Emo or Punk or Goth. They are basically saying if you want to associate with us, you have to do everything we do. Maybe its because Im a sociology major and I have had to learn to spot these thigns, but turn on a television and what do you get? Commercials that claim the only way to a better life is buying that product (that, in all probability, you dont actually need) then comes the show, the protagonist wearing a nice shiny suit and driving a sweet car with an incredible tramp of a woman who wear the most revealing clothes she can get away with. All that is being sold right there is materialism, sexism and well.... sex..... Does anyone find it funny that whats her face (Tyra Banks I think it was), a major advocate in the fight against objectifying women is host of Americas Next Top Model? A show built on a industry that teaches women never to be happy with how they are and demands they be perfect.?