Poll: No-kids-allowed movement. Yay or nay?

[Nietz]

I am to a degree in favor of the "no kids"-movement.
I think any company/establishment should be entitled to set their own policies in regards to this. Incidentally, I think the same about smoking indoors.

Oh, and If that doesn't work, it should at least be legal for you to smack the childs parents around if they do not keep their kid in line.

 

[Hamish Durie]

as long as there quiet i don't mind kids

 

[Brandon237]

If you own the business, then go the hell ahead, please, do, I HATE screaming children. Everytime a baby cries in a restaurant, my girlfriend holds me down because she is scared I am going to give the parents a piece of my mind, with good reason, I cannot stand being interrupted by small children in movies and restaurants.

And again, their business, their rules.

 

[blase]

That's the whole point: parenting IS difficult. Maybe those asshats having babies should think of that before polluting the gene pool with entitled s#!ts that they're too lazy or too incompetent to raise.

By the way, this is a problem that's pretty much exclusive to white folks. In two days in America or Europe, you see more obnoxious brats than you see in a year in Asia. Tiger moms ftmfw.

THIS.

 

[You Can't Take the Sky From Me]

How is this any different than saying no blacks because some people feel they ruin the atmosphere of a high end resteraunt or resort? It is discrimination plain and simple and I am very much against it.

 

[Gustavo S. Buschle]

No. Parents have a difficult enough time trying to get out of the house already without having to find and pay for a sitter. Also, your whole annoying child only tactic doesn't seem like it could practically work, as it would be difficult to determine what constitutes as "annoying".

If someone gets annoyed it is annoying.

OT: I'm ok with kids on places where there shouldn't be any kids, I was a quiet todler my mom says, but as soon they star making a hassle they should get out. And things like planes and boats and stuff should have a "family zone" as the trains in Denmark have.

EDIT: I talked to my mom about this, and as a person who knows both sides of the story she said that it is fucking annoying to pay a bunch af money for a baby sitter when you go commemorate something and then you have to hear other peoples kids yell, cry etc.

 

[xmbts]

News flash: Parenting is kind of difficult, before you go on complaining about how some noisy brat ruined your evening think about having to tend to that kid 24/7 and cut them some slack. You didn't choose to be a parent and that's your business but you can't just make people do something just because you don't feel comfortable with them.

That's the whole point: parenting IS difficult. Maybe those asshats having babies should think of that before polluting the gene pool with entitled s#!ts that they're too lazy or too incompetent to raise.

By the way, this is a problem that's pretty much exclusive to white folks. In two days in America or Europe, you see more obnoxious brats than you see in a year in Asia. Tiger moms ftmfw.

Sorry to take you off your pedestal there but the world isn't perfect, people have kids when they aren't ready and since kids are human beings with the same rights as you me or anybody else they can't just be shuffled out of an area based on arbitrary information. That is segregation.

Also you don't know the first thing about kids. As individuals children have a habit of doing things, whether or not the parents want or taught them to. Stop assuming that one kid having a meltdown means that that is a bad parent because I can safely bet that at some point every single person in here has, at least once, done the same exact thing when you were a kid.

 

[The Eyeball Moose]

Kids will always be kids, but I'd enjoy it if they were kicked out when and where it's possible to.

 

[rutger5000]

On airlines yes, everywhere else no. But when a child begins screaming a mother and/or father and child could be forced to leave buildings like libaries, fancy restaurants etc etc. Though honestly don't you think your complaing way too much over here. Comeo on it are just children, people should have more patience.
I voted eh, for I wouldn't want to ban such a rule, but I do find it extremly childish and selfish, and it would really reflect on how a socioty is doing (rather poorly).

 

[feather240]

I also vote that you have to be 18 before posting on the internet. I also vote that anyone who speaks in ebonics shouldn't be allowed in stores. I also feel if you you don't get A's in school and go to college you shouldn't be allowed to own a car since you aren't smart enough to drive. Also, this topic annoys me, you shouldn't be allowed to post on this forum anymore.

See how dumb this idea is?

Well shit, I didn't know you owned the internet, all the stores in the world, all the governments in the world, all the cars in the world, and the Escapist. What did you invest in?

The same place that you invested in that lets you think you can control another human's actions because it causes you a minor annoyance.

If you own a business you can't decide who you want to serve?

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

This just seems stupid and heavy-handed to me. Surely it makes more sense that the staff just give a warning if the child won't shut up, rather than ban all children? It's bad enough on parents anyway trying to go places with their kids (I'm the second oldest of four, I remember how bad it was), they don't need it any harder.

 

[Adzma]

My god, it's like all those insane ramblings I've had to myself working in retail and all that suppressed rage has been seen by someone and turned into a wonderous proposal. WHERE DO I SIGN?!

 

[Darwins_Folly]

Ever time I go to the zoo or to an amusement park I pray that the people in charge would at least once or twice a month institute adults only days. Its just so much more enjoyable and peaceful without children running around being obnoxious.

 

[Titan Buttons]

Why should a child be excluded from traveling? There just as annoying as an adult passenger, even though it's easier to get a child to be quite then an adult.

 

[Gustavo S. Buschle]

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I have to say that as a white Danish person I admit that other white Danish people get a gold medal in spoiling their "fuck trophies"

 

[Jibblejab]

But then again, even at age five or six (and my parents insist even younger than that) I was apparently a quiet and polite child who understood that a restaurant was for your indoor voice, and not running around in either. I think that the problem here is not the children, but parents who can't control or haven't taught their children properly, and I don't think it's fair to deny children the chance to understand what it means to be an adult, and to 'feel grown-up,' as my parents used to say, just because some idiot parents don't understand about proper child rearing.

You see thats exactly what my parents were like and as a child you need to learn how to act in those sorts of places, but really it just baffles me how some parents are unable to control their children.

 

[Titan Buttons]

That's the whole point: parenting IS difficult. Maybe those asshats having babies should think of that before polluting the gene pool with entitled s#!ts that they're too lazy or too incompetent to raise.

By the way, this is a problem that's pretty much exclusive to white folks. In two days in America or Europe, you see more obnoxious brats than you see in a year in Asia. Tiger moms ftmfw.

THIS.

High fivez?

Sorry to take you off your pedestal there but the world isn't perfect, people have kids when they aren't ready and since kids are human beings with the same rights as you me or anybody else they can't just be shuffled out of an area based on arbitrary information. That is segregation.

Also you don't know the first thing about kids. As individuals children have a habit of doing things, whether or not the parents want or taught them to. Stop assuming that one kid having a meltdown means that that is a bad parent because I can safely bet that at some point every single person in here has, at least once, done the same exact thing when you were a kid.

Yeah, rubbish.

I'm half German, half Korean. At the doctor's a while ago (in Germany), there was a mother and her five year old in the waiting room with the kid running around the table, stepping on people's toes, knocking stuff over and being generally an obnoxious little shit.

When I lost my patience and kindly asked her to rein her sprog in a bit, do you know what she said? That she could hardly tell such a young child what to do.

My jaw dropped to the floor below.

Fuck you, lady. When I was five, I could read and write in two languages. Kids at that age know the difference between right and wrong, and if you raise them right and teach them to behave respectfully, they will. I wasn't docile or acquiescent by any means; but if I had behaved like that, my (Korean) mother would have slapped me into the next dimension on some Stargate shit. I would have woken up under a pyramid looking at two suns and learnt my God damned lesson. But it wasn't necessary, because some cultures recognise that the peace and quiet of a dozen sick people waiting for their doctor is more important than the right of some dumb heifer to have kids without knowing how to raise them properly.

That's the problem with white people. They always kowtow to the dumbest among them instead of trying to raise everybody up. Are there shit parents in Asia? Sure. But generally speaking, kids there are MUCH better behaved than kids here, let alone in America.

By the way, bullshit on kids having the same rights as you or I. Can they negotiate contracts? Get married? Drive a car? Choose their own place of residence? Vote? Go out after dark by themselves?

Didn't think so. Most countries don't consider kids full citizens, and in many countries, kids under seven years of age have next to no rights whatsoever. When a five year old damages your car, you take the parents to court.

That is a very good example of a terrbile parent. One example does not mean that every parent is terrbile at raising children and that all children these days are. Why should all families be punished for what a few have done?