Poll: Obesity: fat people or true illness?

[Inverse Skies]

The fact I can type coherently & provide a valid argument should mean a lot, more than the fact I have been socialising (it was a mate's 20th).
Your fail to mention how the journals reguard motivation over consequence, a flaw which cannot be ignored.
By your definition, a diseased state is the result of someone having bad life practices, not an actual disabilty e.g. autism.
To say that a person who voluntarily made him/herself obese is the same as someone born with a disabilty seems to be a very cold and flawed definition of disease.

When you study medicine at uni you learn about OBJECTIVITY (which you seem to be incapable of, especially with your beloved PS3) very quickly.

I'll quote the whole paragraph shall I?

Disease can be defined as any abnormality or failure of the body to function properly and this may require medical treatment (Figure 1.1). The scientific study of diseases is called pathology. Every disease has a distict set of features that include a cause, associated clinical symptoms and a chracteristic progression, with associated morphological and functional changes in the patient.

From- Ahmed, N, Dawson M, Smith, C & Wood, E, 2007. 'Biology of Disease' Taylor & Francis Group, New York, USA.

Disease 1. An interruption, cessation, or disorder of any body systems, or organs SYN illness, morbus, sickness.
2. A morbid entity chracterised usually by at least two of these criteria: recognised etiologic agent(s), identifiable group of signs and symptoms, or consistent anatomical alterations. SEE ALSO syndrome,
3. Literally, dis-ease, the opposite of ease, when something is wrong with a bodily function.

From- Spraycar M, 1995, 'Stedmans Medical Dictionary 26th Edition' Williams and Wilkins, Baltimore, USA.

Have I made my point yet? I know you can't stand to be wrong, but you are. Grow up.

 

[Izakflashman]

Well I'm tempted to say that its genetics, since my dad was skinny as a rake at my age (As I am now) and now he's got a nice belly on him, I can see myself probably going the same way. But Its definatly not an illness, you don't catch the occasional starving african thats overweight going "Omg, I caught it off the hooker."

 

[Inverse Skies]

Oh wow, your concluding remark shows how you may be insecure and can't take your life style to be challenged. Amazing how you go on about objectivity, yet find this debate to be so personal no?

Disease can be defined as any abnormality or failure of the body to function properly and this may require medical treatment (Figure 1.1). The scientific study of diseases is called pathology. Every disease has a distict set of features that include a cause, associated clinical symptoms and a chracteristic progression, with associated morphological and functional changes in the patient.

Well the highlighted parts show how obesity isn't a disease. Obesity vastly varies between each person. Yes, they cary more weight than needed, but amount varies, and this causes the symptoms to vary. And cause as well vastly varies.
As for my "beloved PS3". It is technically the best, and stop digressing. And congratulations on being petty. Amazing how everyone for the "Lets be fat" campaign is unable to keep it informative and not personal. Unless you think insulting other people is a way of winning credibilty.

And yet what's that? Oh someone hasn't provided any referenced data of their own. I'm sorry, I thought I was debating with someone who thought they could deliver referenced journal articles into the debate instead of pointing out irrelevant parts of my previous posts.

Provide me referenced data which says otherwise, or you lose. Simple.

I'm going offline for a while now. I have to study, for you know, my medical course which proves all your points about obesity not being an illness wrong.