Poll: On the topic of Heavy Metal

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twistedshadows

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I love most forms of metal. I like a mix of old and new, so I can't really say that I think metal has "improved," it's just different than it used to be.
 

Rorschach II

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I absolutely love most metal as a whole until it gets to the point where it becomes death metal.

I love bands like Judas Priest, Megadeth (Dave Mustaine FTW), Metallica (Lars and Hetfield FTW).

Its a great genre in all and doesn't get enough light shed on it. The only light it does get is bad light.

I also hate msot of the mainstream bullcrap that gets played on the radio today, it's really upsetting.
 

The Eaten Cake

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DarkMessiah said:
I enjoy metal, and the majority of its subgenres, but whether or not it can be said to be intelligent, mediocre or a a guy going "raaah" really depends on the band. There are a hell of a lot of metal bands, and there are so many different subgenres that fall under metal, and there is so much overlap between them that it's difficult to simply say "metal is this" or "metal is that".
Pretty much this.

I'm a pretty big fan of progressive metal, myself, so I listen to a lot of Dream Theater. Lots of room to be innovative there. I like the older heavy metal, too, and I dabble a little in bands like Disturbed and Slipknot.
 

NeW SpEcTrUM

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I'm all about the euro-metal. Stuff like Nightwish (my personal favorite band), Therion (the gods of symphonic metal), Epica (excellent blending of symphonic and death metal), Apocalyptica (ahh, the cello, my favorite instrument), Darkseed (death metal that isn't too hardcore), L'Ame Immortelle (cool blend of metal, symphonic, and techno-y sounds), Sirenia (more symphonic/death metal)...the list goes on. Tristania, After Forever, Angtoria, Paradise Lost, Leaves' Eyes, Blind Guardian, Tarja, Korpiklaani. I also really love modern classical music, especially string quartets. If you ask me, strange as it may seem at first glance, metal is the natural evolution from classical. This weekend I'm seeing Nightwish in concert (also featuring Volbeat, whom I would call 'if Elvis did metal'), I'm so excited!

(Oh, and most people probably already know this, but most radio stations don't know two shits about what real music is.)

Rock on and stay rational.
 

ArKadian47

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I have no idea what is and isn't metal, so it's probably better that I just follow the bands that I like.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Sronpop said:
miracleofsound said:
ExodusinFlames said:
I'm a big fan of metal as well. From a purely musical standpoint, a lot of the more technical bands' writing styles, seem to have more in common with classical composers.
Anyone who questions it, just needs to listen to Opeth. :p
Indeed. Ghost of Perdition still has me scraping my jaw off the floor every time I hear it.

I must also mention Strapping Young Lad, a criminally under appreciated band. Devin Townsend is a true musical prodigy and makes me happy to have ears.
I can't wait for his new project, 4 albums coming out by the end of the year i think, a radically different, and telling and ever evovling story and mood. Seriously, in what other genre of music can you do that. Metal ftw.
I just came a little. Where did you hear this??? 4 new Devin albums??

-Zen- said:
Tool is God. That is all.
Tool were God but then Opeth did a kratos on them.

NeW SpEcTrUM said:
I'm all about the euro-metal. Stuff like Nightwish (my personal favorite band), Therion (the gods of symphonic metal), Epica (excellent blending of symphonic and death metal), Apocalyptica (ahh, the cello, my favorite instrument), Darkseed (death metal that isn't too hardcore), L'Ame Immortelle (cool blend of metal, symphonic, and techno-y sounds), Sirenia (more symphonic/death metal)...the list goes on. Tristania, After Forever, Angtoria, Paradise Lost, Leaves' Eyes, Blind Guardian, Tarja, Korpiklaani. I also really love modern classical music, especially string quartets. If you ask me, strange as it may seem at first glance, metal is the natural evolution from classical. This weekend I'm seeing Nightwish in concert (also featuring Volbeat, whom I would call 'if Elvis did metal'), I'm so excited!

(Oh, and most people probably already know this, but most radio stations don't know two shits about what real music is.)

Rock on and stay rational.
You said Paradise Lost. I want to hug you.
 

tigerblob

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40% of people chose 'an ever-evolving genre' because 'it's the cats fucking pyjamas' wasn't an option.
 

BubbleGumSnareDrum

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robinkom said:
Screaming and growling take NO skill or talent. If I'm going to cough up $15 for a band's album, I expect some professionalism; the presence of a vocalist with some actual singing talent, guitar players that know more than 3 chords, and a drummer that can play at an appropriate speed that you can actually tell what the hell she/he's doing (i.e. NOT at the speed of light).

It's fine that you like Children of Bodom, that's your thing, but to me, bands like them border on complete noise. Keep in mind, I'm not trying to argue or insult you. You asked my opinion and you got it.
You wouldn't even know where to begin on the various techniques to performing different harsh vocals. It requires a technique, therefore it requires talent, not to mention talent that you neither possess nor understand.

Also, I'd like to add that uninformed opinions are also worthless opinions. Nobody should (or will) care what you have to say if you clearly don't understand the subject matter.
 

dnnydllr

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Let's see...I definitely like the classics more than modern day(see avatar((if you can't see it because it's too small it's Live After Death by Iron Maiden))
I like my sabbath, priest, maiden, metallica, megadeth, and so on
I also have grown to like All That Remains, A7X(to some extent), and....that's more or less it for newer stuff.
 

quiet_samurai

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Total Metal Head!!

Lamb of God is my current musical obsession right now. I find it hilarious when people say that metal is dead and never made it past the 80's. The last person that said that to me was on Halloween and the ***** was dressed as Miley Cyrus... Dumb Whore.
 

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L33tsauce_Marty said:
Add one option:

"An genre that you have to have a mentality to get into, but once you get that you will be dragged into the wonderful artwork that will make you cry in the songs emotion or give you an amazing adrenaline rush powered by the world's most skilled musicians and their epic guitar solos."
I believe I fall under that option.
I mainly listen to melodic death metal and folk metal. Due to the strange way I happen to avoid anything new, the only bands I listen to regularly Amon Amarth and Ensiferum.
 

Lord Kofun

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Like all music genres, it just sounds like noise until you really stop and analyze it. I make a point to listen to metal that has influences outside of metal.
e.g. Into the Moat is influenced by jazz, Between the Buried and Me is influenced by classical, Every Time I Die has a very Rock-and-Roll feel, etc.

Listen to Psyopus and Behold.. The Arctopus (forgive their names) if you ever read this. Absolutely insane music. Music theory at its best.

DragonForce is not heavy metal. I don't care what anyone says. It's a cheesy, wimpy version of Metallica played at 8x speed. Sure, they're fast, but that's it.
 

L33tsauce_Marty

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robinkom said:
L33tsauce_Marty said:
robinkom said:
*snip*

And to dust off an even older one for my own personal bias... "DEATH TO FALSE METAL!"
But what is 'False Metal'? Metal is such a general term it could be anything! Growling and screaming are perfect if you know how to make sense with it. Children of Bodom is a perfect example. These were the first band that got me into Metal. They lack no skill whatsoever - but they never sing. How can there be anything wrong with that? Sure, screaming or growling is terrible, but if you can use it to amplify what you are doing with the instruments, then that is truly amazing.
It's kind of a tongue-in-cheek joke on my part. In the mid-80s Manowar's thing was "Death to False Metal," something they were targeting at the hair bands of the day. Manowar's just the kind of band that's SO "metal" that it's cheesy... but so cheesy that it's Metal. I frequently make jokes in vain of their seriousness on the matter, usually to my friends or any stranger in the music store I strike up a conversation with to describe bands that I don't like. For laughs.

On the other point, you just said it for me: "Screaming and growling is terrible." It's not amazing when 99% of the material is some jack-off just screaming along with the rest of the band. Conversely, he could also actually harmonize with the rest of the instruments... in key... with a steady note.

Screaming and growling take NO skill or talent. If I'm going to cough up $15 for a band's album, I expect some professionalism; the presence of a vocalist with some actual singing talent, guitar players that know more than 3 chords, and a drummer that can play at an appropriate speed that you can actually tell what the hell she/he's doing (i.e. NOT at the speed of light).

It's fine that you like Children of Bodom, that's your thing, but to me, bands like them border on complete noise. Keep in mind, I'm not trying to argue or insult you. You asked my opinion and you got it.
You are right to a certain extent. I absolutely hate bands that "It's not amazing when 99% of the material is some jack-off just screaming along with the rest of the band." I.E. The Devil Wears Prada. It's completely moronic. But if all the vocalist sang, then there would never have been more hardcore metal. It would have stayed the same way it was and never grew. You cant sing to most of the bands in my library, it would take all the intensity out. But what about bands that both sing and have screaming/growing? Several bands do this (like Killswitch Engage). For me taking out that part of the band is like removing the caffeine from coffee, or removing the alcohol from beer. I think that maybe you are stereotyping what goes on here, maybe try listening to some good bands and you might enjoy it.
 

DYin01

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henrebotha said:
Power metal does not fall under heavy metal.

Symphonic metal does not fall under heavy metal.

Speed metal does not fall under heavy metal.

Heavy metal hasn't evolved so much as to be unrecognisable since the 1970's.

Metal, however, has, and power-, symphonic-, and speed metal all fall under metal.

Get your terminology straight.
Heavy metal can be used both as the umbrella term for metal in general or the specific subgenre heavy metal, also known as classic metal like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest.
 

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dnnydllr said:
Let's see...I definitely like the classics more than modern day(see avatar((if you can't see it because it's too small it's Live After Death by Iron Maiden))
I like my sabbath, priest, maiden, metallica, megadeth, and so on
I also have grown to like All That Remains, A7X(to some extent), and....that's more or less it
for newer stuff.
Same here, HERE....COMES....THE...PAINKILLER!!! I only liked A7X before they tried to be the new GNR...I saw them live and they spent more time posing for cameras then playing.
 

Yokai

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I listen to metal mainly because of the music itself. There are some extremely talented musicians working in the genre, and a good deal of metal simply sounds awesome. However, if the song has lyrics, then they should be something intelligible. Screamo bands do nothing for me. Having some random-ass guy yelling himself hoarse in the mike for no reason detracts from the actual music and serves no purpose. Better yet are the bands that actually have something to say, like System of a Down. Almost all of their songs deliver a powerful political message, which really makes the music seem worthwhile. But often I just want to hear something badass and enjoy some Metallica or Disturbed.
 

dnnydllr

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Drummerstixz said:
dnnydllr said:
Let's see...I definitely like the classics more than modern day(see avatar((if you can't see it because it's too small it's Live After Death by Iron Maiden))
I like my sabbath, priest, maiden, metallica, megadeth, and so on
I also have grown to like All That Remains, A7X(to some extent), and....that's more or less it
for newer stuff.
Same here, HERE....COMES....THE...PAINKILLER!!! I only liked A7X before they tried to be the new GNR...I saw them live and they spent more time posing for cameras then playing.
So I've heard...and to think M. actually used to sound good.....