Poll: Paedophile sentenced to be beheaded then crucified

[Julianking93]

How exactly does that make them better than the pedo or do anyone justice?

That's just cruel and they're just as fucked up if not more.

Yes, rape is bad and when it has something to do with children, its worse (by social standards. Its all the same to me.) but killing someone and putting it up for display? Thats just fucked.

Um..it's saying "IF YOU RAPE AND LEAVE CHILDREN FOR DEAD, WE WILL KILL YOU?" Sounds like a good message to send honestly.

It makes them better then the pedo b/c.. THEY AREN'T RAPING CHILDREN!

There is NEVER an excuse for child abuse.. ever. Not mental illness. Not genetic issues. Not having an abusive childhood themselves. NOTHING. There is no rehab, no surgery, no therapy that can cure a pedo. All pedos should all die the most horrible way possible.


SIDE NOTE:
It's funny, Muslims are protected when they won't let female school children out of a freakin BURNING BUILDING b/c they aren't covered according to Sharia law, but people get all pissy when they do something right for a change. Beheading is too good for this guy... cut of his penis first...then behead him.

There is [b/]NEVER[/b] an excuse for murder.

Yes, I get that its rape and attempted murder (I guess that's what leaving someone for dead is classified as) but beheading someone and curcifie them in public? That whole goddamn place is fucked up.

I am one of those people who's against the death penalty so this is completely over what I think is morally right. That being said, my reason for being against the death penalty has been considered wrong.

I think that they should just spend the rest of their life in prison. Let [i/]them[/i] rot. Let [i/]them[/i] be raped in jail. They'll spend the rest of their years suffering.

Never an excuse for murder, you say? You obviously don't have kids. Because if you did, you'd know that if anything happened to them at the hands of some screwed-up pedophile, you would drastically change your opinions on murder. You don't know these childrens' (or their parents') pain, and you never will. Personally, I think the punishment is too good for him.

P.S.: OH, YES, LET'S GIVE THE PEDOPHILE FREE ROOM, BOARD, AND FOOD FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE, THAT'LL TOTALLY TEACH HIM. Idiot.

No, I'm not, I'm 16. It'd be weird if I had a kid. But, unlike most teenagers, I love kids. I work at a daycare center.

That being said, I don't care what the person has done. There is never a right part in murder. Not ever.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't do it if someone hurt my parents, loved one, or child, but its still not right. It doesn't bring justice to the unjust.

Then we'll obviously just have to agree to disagree. I'm a camp counselor, so I'm fairly close to your day-care background. However, while I find pedophiles to be completely unworthy of life, you believe that they should live. I guess it's our personalities that differ.

However, I still believe that what the Saudis are doing does in fact "bring justice to the unjust". The western idea of 'justice' is completely bastardized in my opinion. It's not that I don't believe in an eye-for-an-eye system; hell, hypothetically, if someone took my eye (or someone I loved) I'd do a lot worse than take theirs. I just think that people as young and inexperienced as you severely underestimate what rape does to a person, especially a child.

I do know what rape does to someone. My step mother was raped at 13 and my best friend was molested when she was 6 by a fucking teacher, so don't tell me I'm inexperienced and don't know what it does to people. Hell, even one of the children I take care of was molested during the summer by his own father, yet I don't wish him death.

I became a camp counsler/day care worker because I love children and its better that I'm watching over them than some freak.

Even though I hold a deep hatred for rapists and child molesters, I don't wish them death. Its not my place to wish anyone to die.

I wish for them to suffer. And a maximum security prison is just the place for it.

 

[Julianking93]

How exactly does that make them better than the pedo or do anyone justice?

That's just cruel and they're just as fucked up if not more.

Yes, rape is bad and when it has something to do with children, its worse (by social standards. Its all the same to me.) but killing someone and putting it up for display? Thats just fucked.

Um..it's saying "IF YOU RAPE AND LEAVE CHILDREN FOR DEAD, WE WILL KILL YOU?" Sounds like a good message to send honestly.

It makes them better then the pedo b/c.. THEY AREN'T RAPING CHILDREN!

There is NEVER an excuse for child abuse.. ever. Not mental illness. Not genetic issues. Not having an abusive childhood themselves. NOTHING. There is no rehab, no surgery, no therapy that can cure a pedo. All pedos should all die the most horrible way possible.


SIDE NOTE:
It's funny, Muslims are protected when they won't let female school children out of a freakin BURNING BUILDING b/c they aren't covered according to Sharia law, but people get all pissy when they do something right for a change. Beheading is too good for this guy... cut of his penis first...then behead him.

There is [b/]NEVER[/b] an excuse for murder.

Yes, I get that its rape and attempted murder (I guess that's what leaving someone for dead is classified as) but beheading someone and curcifie them in public? That whole goddamn place is fucked up.

I am one of those people who's against the death penalty so this is completely over what I think is morally right. That being said, my reason for being against the death penalty has been considered wrong.

I think that they should just spend the rest of their life in prison. Let [i/]them[/i] rot. Let [i/]them[/i] be raped in jail. They'll spend the rest of their years suffering.

Never an excuse for murder, you say? You obviously don't have kids. Because if you did, you'd know that if anything happened to them at the hands of some screwed-up pedophile, you would drastically change your opinions on murder. You don't know these childrens' (or their parents') pain, and you never will. Personally, I think the punishment is too good for him.

P.S.: OH, YES, LET'S GIVE THE PEDOPHILE FREE ROOM, BOARD, AND FOOD FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE, THAT'LL TOTALLY TEACH HIM. Idiot.

No, I'm not, I'm 16. It'd be weird if I had a kid. But, unlike most teenagers, I love kids. I work at a daycare center.

That being said, I don't care what the person has done. There is never a right part in murder. Not ever.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't do it if someone hurt my parents, loved one, or child, but its still not right. It doesn't bring justice to the unjust.

Then we'll obviously just have to agree to disagree. I'm a camp counselor, so I'm fairly close to your day-care background. However, while I find pedophiles to be completely unworthy of life, you believe that they should live. I guess it's our personalities that differ.

However, I still believe that what the Saudis are doing does in fact "bring justice to the unjust". The western idea of 'justice' is completely bastardized in my opinion. It's not that I don't believe in an eye-for-an-eye system; hell, hypothetically, if someone took my eye (or someone I loved) I'd do a lot worse than take theirs. I just think that people as young and inexperienced as you severely underestimate what rape does to a person, especially a child.

I do know what rape does to someone. My step mother was raped at 13 and my best friend was molested when she was 6 by a fucking teacher, so don't tell me I'm inexperienced and don't know what it does to people. Hell, even one of the children I take care of was molested during the summer by his own father, yet I don't wish him death.

I became a camp counsler/day care worker because I love children and its better that I'm watching over them than some freak.

Even though I hold a deep hatred for rapists and child molesters, I don't wish them death. Its not my place to wish anyone to die.

I wish for them to suffer. And a maximum security prison is just the place for it.

It's easy to think like that when you're on the outside looking in, rather than the other way around. I haven't been so lucky in my life.

In short, you DON'T know what it's like. You've just seen it happen to other people.

So you're saying that because I have not been raped or never had my children raped, I don't understand but that it doesn't matter that it's happened to two people I care about deeply in life?

Is that correct?

 

[Akai Shizuku]

Looking at the replies on this board, I'm disgusted.

I'm sick and tired of people defending these god-damn scourges of the earth, with all their humanitarian hippy bullshit.

You know what? Good for the Saudis.

I don't CARE about being better than someone who has raped 5 kids. In my eyes, once you've sexually assaulted children you deserve the most painful punishment the world can provide. Personally, I think there would be nothing I could do to this man that bring me even close to his level. Beheading? Sounds too lenient to me. Stake him on top of a pile of fire ants, maybe then he'll understand the pain those children went through.

This, exactly this. I'm a freaking Communist and I know when to draw the line with the hippie crap.

 

[bcponpcp27]

Beheading isn't inhumane if you believe in the death penalty. It's probably painless

You can live for 30 or more seconds after being beheaded. Hardly painless.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

If someone touched my kid i would do worse.

like rip apart their spinal cord with a chainsaw, starting with their tailbone?

FFS i want to engage armageddon and i have higher standards. decapitation is merciful

Ever heard of The Walking Dead? It's a post-apocalyptic zombie comic.

In one issue, a muscular dude and a dad and his son are traveling on a bridge. They meet two bandits who have knives and stuff. The bandits restrain the dudes and attempt to rape one of their sons.

You know what he freaking did? He broke free and killed both bandits with his bare hands. The one that tried to rape the kid, you know what happened to him? The father tore the man's intestines out, quite literally with tooth and nail.

That, my friends, is a father. The would-be child rapist deserved everything he got, and that was just one kid, not five. All of you who say that this serial child rapist/killer doesn't deserve to be beheaded and crucified have no idea what kind of trauma victims go through, before during and after.

 

[Slayer_2]

You can live for 30 or more seconds after being beheaded. Hardly painless.

I highly doubt that without your brain/eyes/ears that you will be very aware of your surroundings. Just because your heart may be pumping does not mean you are alive.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Wait, so they're going to behead him then crucify him?

That seems a bit unnecessary. Not because it's inhumane or anything, but because he's already dead after the whole beheading.

Beat me to it. I thought the whole objective of crucifiction was a slow and painful death. If they're doing it just for show or the principle then don't crucify him, put his head on a pike. It's adding insult to death and it's an effective detterent!

I think they're using crucifiction as a way of making an example to other potential rapists.

Hundreds of years back in England when people were executed (usually hung) their bodies were left for days for people to see for the same effect.

Ah yes, the old hung, drawn and quartered. Back when we were mean.

 

[Maze1125]

The guy raped 5 children,

That has not been proven.

As far as they are concerned it has been, and in that legal system, that is more than enough.

Having an unjust legal system does not justify the actions committed as a result of that legal system.

And you did not make the claim "He has been found guilty of raping 5 children by their legal system." you made the claim "He raped 5 children." which has not been proven.

 

[Terramax]

Ah yes, the old hung, drawn and quartered. Back when we were mean.

Yep, unlike present England where if you break the law, you're put in a warm, comfy room with lots of friends to play with, a television, playstation, 3 meals a day, cigarettes, without having to work or pay taxes. And when you're out, the government may even help you find an easy, cushy job-- all at the expense of the law abiding, hard-working taxpayer. Thank god those 'mean' days are over

 

[Maze1125]

All of you who say that this serial child rapist/killer doesn't deserve to be beheaded and crucified have no idea what kind of trauma victims go through, before during and after.

Three points.
He still has not been proven to be the rapist.
You have still failed to prove that your claims of trauma are not hyperbole. Yes. many people's live are ruined by rape, but that doesn't mean it is a necessity.
Saying that someone shouldn't be beheaded is not the same thing as saying that they don't deserve to be beheaded. It's quite possible to believe that the guy deserves the punishment but think no-one should lower themselves to the point of carrying it out.

Hell, here's a fourth one for good measure.
Do you know why he's being punished? Because he raped boys.
If he'd gone after girls, he would probably have been given a slap on the wrist and forced to marry one of them. Don't we all just love Saudi Arabian justice?

 

[Maze1125]

Oh, and if he had gone after girls, the girls he wasn't forced to marry would probably have been whipped for allowing themselves to be defiled.

But hey, nothing wrong with that, it is their justice system after all, they can do what they want...

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Ah yes, the old hung, drawn and quartered. Back when we were mean.

Yep, unlike present England where if you break the law, you're put in a warm, comfy room with lots of friends to play with, a television, playstation, 3 meals a day, cigarettes, without having to work or pay taxes. And when you're out, the government may even help you find an easy, cushy job-- all at the expense of the law abiding, hard-working taxpayer. Thank god those 'mean' days are over

I hear that. I'd hate knowing murderers and brainless chav scum are unhappy

 

[Spirultima]

To anyone who said its inhumane, imagine your one of those kids, its going to scarred you for life. And not 1 but 5 and this is leaving out the fact he murdered them afterwards.

Personally, i wish they did worse, much worse.

Damn right, if one of my children is raped I will definitely want the first man caught to be convicted and killed without a fair trial or even a lawyer.

I don't care if it's the right man or not, I just want someone to die.

I disagree, I would give a fair trial, and want proof, otherwise your just getting revenge without thinking, rather then exacting your real vengeance.

And personally, wanting someone to die is to simple, he must suffer, suffer the horrors he made a child suffer, and more.

 

[KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life]

Not only is it justice, IT'S FUCKING AWESOME.

YEAH! Unfair trials without lawyers for EVERYONE!!!!!
AWESOME!!!!!!!

Well, that's not how those countries work. Nothing deters pedophiles better than something this extreme. And nothing's to say they didn't do it. Holding criminals' hands doesn't make much more sense.

But, then again you're one of those people who thinks a one-off gag comment on a forum is a statement as to how everybody in the world thinks and you're on a righteous crusade against the injustices of the world.

It's a forum, not Question Period, get over yourself.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Also, I guess a communist would be expected to have such backwards ideas.

That was an unwarranted personal attack which I take offense to.

Reported.

You take offense to the truth?

Whatever, I'm done with you. You're probably 13 too, God knows we're all communists when we're that young and gullible.

 

[Maze1125]

Well, that's not how those countries work. Nothing deters pedophiles better than something this extreme. And nothing's to say they didn't do it. Holding criminals' hands doesn't make much more sense.

The point of a fair trial is to not assume someone is a criminal until it is proven they are.
If you pick a particular crime, the majority of the people in the world are innocent of it.

But, then again you're one of those people who thinks a one-off gag comment on a forum is a statement as to how everybody in the world thinks and you're on a righteous crusade against the injustices of the world.

Well, that was random...

It's a forum, not Question Period, get over yourself.

Irony.

 

[The Youth Counselor]

It may be cruel but far less cruel than what he did did to those children who will forever have their experience seared into their minds. The whole notion of sex will have negative insinuations for many years to come. Something as simple as riding in a car may prove to be a fearful experience of post traumatic stress.

If the authorities spared his life, he will surely be tormented inmates wanting to make a name for themselves, sadistic correctional officers and vigilantes.

Beheading is also far less cruel than given an injection of barbiturates so that a condemned may not scream as his lungs shut down and he slowly asphyxiates. Or breathing in a horrendous odor of cyanide and sulfuric acid that can take maybe a dozen minutes to painfully kill you. If he is given a clean cut that severs his nerves, it will be a more humane form of execution than we practice in the more "civilized" countries.

 

[bjj hero]

Not only is it justice, IT'S FUCKING AWESOME.

YEAH! Unfair trials without lawyers for EVERYONE!!!!!
AWESOME!!!!!!!

Well, that's not how those countries work. Nothing deters pedophiles better than something this extreme. And nothing's to say they didn't do it. Holding criminals' hands doesn't make much more sense.

But, then again you're one of those people who thinks a one-off gag comment on a forum is a statement as to how everybody in the world thinks and you're on a righteous crusade against the injustices of the world.

It's a forum, not Question Period, get over yourself.

Most paedophiles don't think they will get caught so punishment is not a deterant. Most paedophiles are not caught at all. The victims tend to disclose years later when they are starting families etc. and can frame their abuse.

Paedophiles who commit the riskier child abduction crimes, like this man is accused of, do it because of an "uncontrolable" urge and some very distorted thinking. Again, punishment is not a deterant for these people either.

Most paedophiles are not predatory child snatching monsters. If you are going to be abused it is usualy by a family member or a friend of the family.