I'm finding it hard to feel much pity for him to be honestbjj hero said:The guy had raped 5 children. Dumping one of them in the desert, left for dead.
He got caught trying to catch another kid, if you read the article. They probably also had testimony from the kids.Maze1125 said:It's interesting how everyone's glazing over the fact that he didn't have a fair trial.
It doesn't matter whether the punishment fits or not, because we can't be sure that he was the one who committed the crime.
So, the criminal is going to turn into a zombie and start eating people?Internet Kraken said:Again, having horrible punishments does not help to prevent future crimes. It never has, and it never will.Akai Shizuku said:It's not just an eye for an eye. It's protecting society from future offenses. Prison won't make it better.Internet Kraken said:An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.Mihz00 said:Why not crucify him first? He deserves far worse then that. Sure, it's not very humane, but I doubt the children he raped think he's very humane either.
.......ehat?Akai Shizuku said:So, the criminal is going to turn into a zombie and start eating people?Internet Kraken said:Again, having horrible punishments does not help to prevent future crimes. It never has, and it never will.Akai Shizuku said:It's not just an eye for an eye. It's protecting society from future offenses. Prison won't make it better.Internet Kraken said:An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.Mihz00 said:Why not crucify him first? He deserves far worse then that. Sure, it's not very humane, but I doubt the children he raped think he's very humane either.
Sorry, that was a bit difficult to understand, I'll admit. My point was that regardless of whether or not it deters other criminals, it will stop this one from committing any more crimes without a shadow of a doubt.Internet Kraken said:.......ehat?Akai Shizuku said:So, the criminal is going to turn into a zombie and start eating people?Internet Kraken said:Again, having horrible punishments does not help to prevent future crimes. It never has, and it never will.Akai Shizuku said:It's not just an eye for an eye. It's protecting society from future offenses. Prison won't make it better.Internet Kraken said:An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.Mihz00 said:Why not crucify him first? He deserves far worse then that. Sure, it's not very humane, but I doubt the children he raped think he's very humane either.
I think we both may have misinterpreted what the other was trying to say.
What about the fact that he was caught in the act and the kids can give testimonies?stranamente said:Yes, about death penalty... what about if he's innocent?
Let's talk about that...
You have a one track mind here. Kraken was talking about the fact that other people will merely replace the person sentenced to death. In that sense, no future crime will be committed. Besides which, life in prison prevents crime against non-convicts (and, depending on the prison, may prevent all further offences entirely), so death has no actual advantage over life here.Akai Shizuku said:So, the criminal is going to turn into a zombie and start eating people?
Life imprisonment either in a prison or mental institution, whichever one the judge sees fit, and some psychiactric help.Symplify said:A lot of people have said that they think he should be treated; someone explain how you would intend to treat a person like this.
Prisons put criminals behind bars but otherwise solve nothing. In fact, they often encourage future offenses.Silva said:You have a one track mind here. Kraken was talking about the fact that other people will merely replace the person sentenced to death. In that sense, no future crime will be committed. Besides which, life in prison prevents crime against non-convicts, so death has no actual advantage over life here.Akai Shizuku said:So, the criminal is going to turn into a zombie and start eating people?
While I disagree with killing someone for such a purpose, I will say that if you do so at least do it in a humane way. Beheading someone and then crucifying their corpse serves no purpose.Akai Shizuku said:Sorry, that was a bit difficult to understand, I'll admit. My point was that regardless of whether or not it deters other criminals, it will stop this one from committing any more crimes without a shadow of a doubt.
Yeah, because of course, in a country where they deny people lawyers, there is absolutely no way someone could coach some traumatised children into fingering whoever they wanted. Right?Symplify said:He got caught trying to catch another kid, if you read the article. They probably also had testimony from the kids.Maze1125 said:It's interesting how everyone's glazing over the fact that he didn't have a fair trial.
It doesn't matter whether the punishment fits or not, because we can't be sure that he was the one who committed the crime.
Framing, lying and false accusation are still possible in that equation. It is a very rare situation that can be substantiated by an irrefutable mountain of evidence, since people are generally smart enough not to offend in a place with more than five witnesses, and not all incriminations can be supported by genetic evidence.Akai Shizuku said:What about the fact that he was caught in the act and the kids can give testimonies?
Let's talk about that.
Maybe I am, but then again, a prison sentence is just another form of eye for an eye (And IMO, a poor one). Why aren't you off arguing against that?Internet Kraken said:You're missing the point.
It stops repeat offenses and provides some emotional relief for the victims.Internet Kraken said:While I disagree with killing someone for such a purpose, I will say that if you do so at least do it in a humane way. Beheading someone and then crucifying their corpse serves no purpose.Akai Shizuku said:Sorry, that was a bit difficult to understand, I'll admit. My point was that regardless of whether or not it deters other criminals, it will stop this one from committing any more crimes without a shadow of a doubt.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a fair trial. I'm just presenting the fact that he was caught.Silva said:Framing, lying and false accusation are still possible in that equation. It is a very rare situation that can be substantiated by an irrefutable mountain of evidence, since people are generally smart enough not to offend in a place with more than five witnesses, and not all incriminations can be supported by genetic evidence.Akai Shizuku said:What about the fact that he was caught in the act and the kids can give testimonies?
Let's talk about that.