Poll: Paedophile sentenced to be beheaded then crucified

[Maze1125]

a prison sentence is just another form of eye for an eye

No it isn't.
The point of a prison sentence is to keep the offender off of the streets until they rehabilitated.
Or, at least, it ought to be.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

In fact, they often encourage future offenses.

So the whole concept of prison is wrong and ineffective? How so? Please, explain, I'm sure we might be onto a great breakthrough in the field of crime and punishment here.

 

[HentMas]

Wait, so they're going to behead him then crucify him?

That seems a bit unnecessary. Not because it's inhumane or anything, but because he's already dead after the whole beheading.

i´m fairly sure the crucifiction is to display his body as a warning to future offenders

 

[Syndef]

How needlessly barbaric. A single shot from an AK would have been enough. I suppose it would be too much to ask for, though.

 

[Go on]

I give my full support to Amnesty for their stance on this issue. There is no place in the 21st century for such systems.

At the same time, it is up to Saudi Arabians to change their law and culture to fit the times. One day, when the oil resources have dried up (or much sooner, the demand for them has), they will need to do much more trading with the Western world. That trade will lead to the necessary change. But in the meantime, we can only hope Amnesty can create some influence for itself.

Why do everyone have to change their cultures and laws to fit you and your western world. So you think that saudi arabia will come crawling to you after their oil have dried up to ask you to free them from their barbarism.

And just for the record I am swedish.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

In fact, they often encourage future offenses.

So the whole concept of prison is wrong and ineffective? How so? Please, explain, I'm sure we might be onto a great breakthrough in the field of crime and punishment here.

I would but I can't find my sauce to copypasta.

 

[Malcheior Sveth]

Beheading, if done properly, is actually quite a painless death. So I guess it depends on whether or not they're using a sharp axe or a rusty dull one.

Fun fact: They beheaded so many people during the French Revolution that the guillotines got dull and it took 3+ chops to get your head completely off. Now THAT is inhumane.

 

[asdasdasdasda]

a prison sentence is just another form of eye for an eye

No it isn't.
The point of a prison sentence is to keep the offender off of the streets until they rehabilitated.
Or, at least, it ought to be.

See, the thing is, when you've raped 5 people, you're likely not going to rehabilitate. Not to mention, in most cases, you're getting a life sentence. Just accelerate the whole process, torture him to death over a week, cost a lot less money then feeding him for years.

 

[Xanadu84]

Ill ignore the capital punishment aspect here, and go for something that might be a little less controversial.

Yes, because obviously, we can TOTALLY trust a middle eastern, fundamentalist justice system with fishy pretenses being completely accurate in there criminal accusations, enough to kill a guy over. Middle eastern fundementalists never kill anyone unjustly.

To elaborate, this is not bigotry of any sort. A fundamentalist of any religion, in any country as screwed up as Saudi Arabia, will have there brand of justice suspect.

 

[DarkRyter]

What's the point in the crucifixion?

He's already dead after the beheading. Are they trying to prevent future child rapes by showing off his dead body? You can't prevent batshit insane.

Don't they understand? People die if they are killed.

 

[infinisynth]

I think it's a great crime deterrent and I wish that it was implemented here in the U.S. That would be swell.

Oh look

I just wonder what sort of deterant this is if they have had to decapitate 40 people this year. Something isn't working.

This person already pointed out the flaw in this logic.

40 people a year!?! Lets compare that to the amount of rapes and murders and shit that happen in the U.S. every year. If we could slim down the crime rate 1% per year by using this method then it would be considered a success in many peoples eyes. What flaw are you talking about?

 

[AvsJoe]

Hey, who am I to say what's right and what's wrong. That's a very pretentious and snobby way of going about if I stuck my nose into other people's business and then telling them to change their ways. That's kind of like looking over someone's shoulder at their computer screen and then suing them for getting offended at what you saw.

 

[Maze1125]

What about the fact that he was caught in the act and the kids can give testimonies?

Let's talk about that.

Framing, lying and false accusation are still possible in that equation. It is a very rare situation that can be substantiated by an irrefutable mountain of evidence, since people are generally smart enough not to offend in a place with more than five witnesses, and not all incriminations can be supported by genetic evidence.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a fair trial. I'm just presenting the fact that he was caught.

And I've already responded to that point.

In fact, how do we even know this guy was caught in the way they claim.
Maybe everyone was getting so frustrated trying the catch the rapist that two local police officers got a bright idea in their heads. They then went off and rounded up the nearest mentally ill man they found and claimed they'd caught him abducting a boy. Now everyone feels better because the "criminal" has been caught and sentenced, and there's no way any of the truth could come out because he didn't have a fair trial.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

In fact, they often encourage future offenses.

So the whole concept of prison is wrong and ineffective? How so? Please, explain, I'm sure we might be onto a great breakthrough in the field of crime and punishment here.

I would but I can't find my sauce to copypasta.

Am I supposed to "lol" here?

Also, I guess a communist would be expected to have such backwards ideas.

 

[Quad08]

Whats so bad about a dead pedophile? He won't be able to hurt anymore children

 

[Silva]

I give my full support to Amnesty for their stance on this issue. There is no place in the 21st century for such systems.

At the same time, it is up to Saudi Arabians to change their law and culture to fit the times. One day, when the oil resources have dried up (or much sooner, the demand for them has), they will need to do much more trading with the Western world. That trade will lead to the necessary change. But in the meantime, we can only hope Amnesty can create some influence for itself.

Why do everyone have to change their cultures and laws to fit you and your western world. So you think that saudi arabia will come crawling to you after their oil have dried up to ask you to free them from their barbarism.

And just for the record I am swedish.

I am merely theorising here about what will probably occur. It is not a question of coercing them to follow my ideals - that's why I wasn't advocating any kind of coercion. They aren't even my ideals first and foremost, but rather humanity's highest ideals.

Human rights are not a solely Western ideal or law. They do, after all, come from international agreements which include several huge Eastern countries. It is simply that people in the Western world can generally defend them more. That's why trade with such countries is quite possibly going to lead to more dialogue, and ultimately more pressure for human rights in that country on the international stage.

By the way, since I'm Australian, it's very unlikely that they will "come crawling to [me]". More likely to Europe or the US.

 

[annoyinglizardvoice]

If I trusted the legal system over there (or indeed anywhere), I'd say it was a great idea.
My only objection to this treatment is my lack of trust for the legal proceedings.

 

[Maze1125]

a prison sentence is just another form of eye for an eye

No it isn't.
The point of a prison sentence is to keep the offender off of the streets until they rehabilitated.
Or, at least, it ought to be.

See, the thing is, when you've raped 5 people, you're likely not going to rehabilitate. Not to mention, in most cases, you're getting a life sentence. Just accelerate the whole process, torture him to death over a week, cost a lot less money then feeding him for years.

And what if he's innocent? Even the fairest judicial system will sometimes make mistakes. People have been released only days from their execution.
Life imprisonment keeps the guy away from society and allows mistakes to be rectified if they are found later.