Poll: - Parents Have Sex With Nine-Year-Old Son -
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You've never met a nine-year old who didn't want to, say, play basketball?sirkai007 said:
When I was nine, I didn't even think about sex (Oh, to be young and innocent again), so I cannot reply with a personal anecdote.
I'm definatly willing to say a nine year old has the self-awareness to not want something, be it sex or to play basketball.
Life experiance is not a factor in desire.
It's pretty hosed that this happens, but I'm more concerned how alot of you guys are perfectly willing to let societies rules dominate your way of thinking. Really? Society would call any type of sex other than missionary sodomy and declare it to be illegal. Society decides how a woman must look to be 'beautiful' and puts them in petticoats and restrictive footware that keeps their feet small. Society dictates with what and how much a man is allowed to beat his wife. Society kills a woman who is raped because it was her fault. Society allows polygamy while condoning polytheism.
You wanna tell me that societies rules are just? They are not. Society is the mob. The unthinking emotional mob that wants to impose their particular brand of crazy religion on everyone despite the consequences.
You wanna tell me that societies rules are just? They are not. Society is the mob. The unthinking emotional mob that wants to impose their particular brand of crazy religion on everyone despite the consequences.
Completely agree, except for the very last line. Just because you can do something, it doesn't mean you should. I think the parents had the right intentions to a point, but by involving him in the teaching (by performing the acts upon him) then they've gone past good intentions into just a big no-go area. That child could not have fully understood the social, psychological and possibly physical implications of sexual intercourse, and it is likely going to be considered rape as it was due to those circumstances.Thanatos5150 said:
The fact they've filmed these acts being performed and then uploaded them is just as big an issue. Did they groom the child into acceptance (and in a way, themselves) and decide to create CP, or what? That's where it goes from "trying to teach sex" to "paedophilia".
WOW! When my parents wanted to teach my sister and I about sex they bought us these books one was called "Where did I Come From?" and the other was "What's Happening to Me?" and we had a discussion about it. This is a little over the top and more than a little disturbing.
Holy shit. Taking your teenage offspring to a prostitute/easy lay to learn about sex would at least be debateable. This is just plain, flat out, solid concrete wrong. 9, No. Mother, No. Father, No. It's just no ,no, no. Totally wrong at every level, there is no argument for it whatsoever.
A child that young wouldn't know any better. They don't know the dangers of incest, or what sex is for. More than likely, this didn't start when he was 9. I'm going to take a stab at it and say 5.Thanatos5150 said:
Your reference to BDSM is loaded with fallacies. A BDSM club would have CONSENTING ADULTS in it. If it didn't have just consenting adults then they deserve to get raided because that is illegal.
Here in the states, 9 is not the age of consent for a reason. Because a child that young doesn't know much outside of what his parents have told him.
These parents are sick. That's disturbing. A 9 year old... I'd say maybe some parts of it would be somewhat ok if he was like 15 and actually hitting puberty and getting interested in chicks... and then they teach him stuff. But to have sex with your kid and film it and then post that on the internet just reeks of pedophilia and bat shit crazy parents. Really sucks for the child but those parents should go to jail for a while and never be allowed in the vecinity of any children for life.
Honestly? If it was up to me I would march them outside, one at a time, push them to their knees and put a fucking bullet in their head.
I am sick and tired of any attempts to find justice with these people. I agree that harm to a child (and believe me, I don't like kids) is one of the worst things that a person could do.
I am sick and tired of any attempts to find justice with these people. I agree that harm to a child (and believe me, I don't like kids) is one of the worst things that a person could do.
This is about as warped as it can get, I'd imagine right now they are being lionized by groups like NAMBLA.
Strictly speaking, when it comes to raising children I used to be a big believe in giving parents a lot of latitude to raising kids to their own lifestyle even if it's odd. I no longer feel this way, not just because of sex, but because I feel that a lot of alternative upbringings, both religious, and philsophical can do a lot of damage. I for example do not think that parents who are Vegans should be able to raise their children on a Vegan diet, or indoctrinate them with a lot of the attached propaganda which goes contrary to the idea of balanced eating and dietary requirements. Deciding to do that as an adult is one thing, having your parents decide it for you... well I'm not comfortable with that.
My thoughts on the subject can get complicated, but basically I feel after all of the abuses over the years things like "Home schooling" and the like are right out. I'm not a big fan of "society's standards" being used because that can be debated, but I do think that there should be far more limits on child rearing than currently exist, because when parents fail to raise a complete, and adjusted human being society has to deal with it.
Strictly speaking, when it comes to raising children I used to be a big believe in giving parents a lot of latitude to raising kids to their own lifestyle even if it's odd. I no longer feel this way, not just because of sex, but because I feel that a lot of alternative upbringings, both religious, and philsophical can do a lot of damage. I for example do not think that parents who are Vegans should be able to raise their children on a Vegan diet, or indoctrinate them with a lot of the attached propaganda which goes contrary to the idea of balanced eating and dietary requirements. Deciding to do that as an adult is one thing, having your parents decide it for you... well I'm not comfortable with that.
My thoughts on the subject can get complicated, but basically I feel after all of the abuses over the years things like "Home schooling" and the like are right out. I'm not a big fan of "society's standards" being used because that can be debated, but I do think that there should be far more limits on child rearing than currently exist, because when parents fail to raise a complete, and adjusted human being society has to deal with it.
As much as i am against this sort of thing, i must stand by my guns and say the government should stay out of child raising, this is something that needs to be handled by the community, not government. I would not be against the government educating parents, however they should not interfere.
...Wow, that really says a lot about my political views...
...Wow, that really says a lot about my political views...
Firstly: In reference to your first sentence: Bullshit. An average child of nine years, being raised in an average way would be aware on a psychological level that such acts were "wrong". Granted, this child does not conform to the definition of average (His parents were nudists. I have literally zero issues with nudisim, but such is not an average child-rearing environment.)sirkai007 said:
Secondly: And I hope this finally gets into the heads of everybody here; I think what the parents did was wrong. They took the exact wrong approach. Their child will likely be socially handicapped. The child wasn't receiving sex ed in school yet because he was nine. They should have educated before just thrusting him into the deep end of the pool (Childish pun not intended).
If I was on the jury (Does Australia even have trial-by jury? I'm not Australian.), assuming the evidence stacked up to support the charges, I wouldn't hesitate to cast my vote for punishment to the full extent of the law (seriously, why is the law ever NOT used to its full extent?).
I'm well aware of the laws Stateside, being a Dumb American myself, and actually currently living in the 'States. I'm also aware that the Age of Consent varies from State to State, and in no State is said age nine. The child is, legally speaking, unable to form his own opinions and give consent (This, in my opinion is rubbish, but for reasons totally unrelated to the topic at hand.)
Allow me to express mild bemusement that you attacked my BDSM parallel and not my basketball metaphor, but leave it at that.
wha?? This disgusting and there is no excuse for this type of behaviour. They should be locked up forever.
"Remember, little Billy: child molestation is wrong! We'll now molest you so you know what it's like and can avoid it in the future."
Excuse my sarcasm, but show and tell is no option for every opportunity... to quote Big B.: "And so I ask you this one question. Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?"
Excuse my sarcasm, but show and tell is no option for every opportunity... to quote Big B.: "And so I ask you this one question. Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?"