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i think an artist is someone who can move people with images/sounds(not rethorica)
there are many peple that can draw, but there are few who picture emotion.
there are many peple that can draw, but there are few who picture emotion.
An artist is someone who went to an Art school and learned the principles of composition. Just being good at drawing (or taking photographs, or making music)is not enough, artists need to know about composition and semantics (among many other things).
Once you have learned these, then you can define your own style.
Once you have learned these, then you can define your own style.
You can learn those things in many ways, and a lot of professional illustrators and the like never went to art school. An artisan crafting items and selling them to make a living need not have a diploma from some institution of learning to be deemed an artist, right?minoes said:
I write mainly, but I'm also interested in encaustic art, using melted wax and an iron to create pictures. I also hope to be a level designer in games development, and I dabble a bit in graphic design, mainly using 'Terragen' world creation software.
Semantics.
If you think you're an artist, you're an artist. If you want to be a filmmaker, you're a filmmaker. There's tons of asshole art/film students out there that think because they went to school they're oh so superior to everyone else, and most of them are pissed off that they aren't making millions of dollars because they're so "talented".
I went to art school, but I'm not an asshole. I've run into plenty of them in my travels, though. Case in point, when I told some film school dickhead about my final movie project his first question was "What did you shoot it on?" So I told him 24fps HD video, to which he replied "Oh, well that doesn't make you a filmmaker does it?"
I've never wanted to punch someone so badly in my entire life, that smug little neo-hippie art house fuckhead... Not that I'm bitter or anything, there's no reason to be. I shut him down pretty quickly, because I explained to him in no uncertain terms that there is little if any difference between film and video anymore, and indeed no less than half of the movies being produced now are digital video, and ALL of them are edited in digital suites. (EDIT) I think he just got his widdle nose out of joint because I told him that I'm getting a bunch of grant money to produce a short FILM and the main reason I got it is because I'm shooting in digital video and its a "New Media" grant. Up yours, Shaggy. Go shoot something in 16mm and leave the real filmmaking to the professionals. Welcome to the 21st century. (END EDIT)
Then I fired a few names at him: Robert Rodriguez, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Steven Sondheim, ALL SHOOT IN DIGITAL VIDEO. Sondheim is such a proponent he purchased several RED cameras (DROOL) and is encouraging all other filmmakers to use them!
So despite the veneer of smugness "Captain Semantics" tried to keep up, I had rendered his total asshole comment completely toothless. I despise most photography and film students, even though I was one. Education does NOT equal talent, it just means you paid someone to teach you how to be a snobbish little prick. Wait, scratch that. Most of these smacktards were already snobbish little pricks to begin with.
So my point is, don't ever let someone else define what it means for you to be an artist! Its all up to you, and seriously, no matter who it is, fuck 'em if they don't like it.
If you think you're an artist, you're an artist. If you want to be a filmmaker, you're a filmmaker. There's tons of asshole art/film students out there that think because they went to school they're oh so superior to everyone else, and most of them are pissed off that they aren't making millions of dollars because they're so "talented".
I went to art school, but I'm not an asshole. I've run into plenty of them in my travels, though. Case in point, when I told some film school dickhead about my final movie project his first question was "What did you shoot it on?" So I told him 24fps HD video, to which he replied "Oh, well that doesn't make you a filmmaker does it?"
I've never wanted to punch someone so badly in my entire life, that smug little neo-hippie art house fuckhead... Not that I'm bitter or anything, there's no reason to be. I shut him down pretty quickly, because I explained to him in no uncertain terms that there is little if any difference between film and video anymore, and indeed no less than half of the movies being produced now are digital video, and ALL of them are edited in digital suites. (EDIT) I think he just got his widdle nose out of joint because I told him that I'm getting a bunch of grant money to produce a short FILM and the main reason I got it is because I'm shooting in digital video and its a "New Media" grant. Up yours, Shaggy. Go shoot something in 16mm and leave the real filmmaking to the professionals. Welcome to the 21st century. (END EDIT)
Then I fired a few names at him: Robert Rodriguez, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Steven Sondheim, ALL SHOOT IN DIGITAL VIDEO. Sondheim is such a proponent he purchased several RED cameras (DROOL) and is encouraging all other filmmakers to use them!
So despite the veneer of smugness "Captain Semantics" tried to keep up, I had rendered his total asshole comment completely toothless. I despise most photography and film students, even though I was one. Education does NOT equal talent, it just means you paid someone to teach you how to be a snobbish little prick. Wait, scratch that. Most of these smacktards were already snobbish little pricks to begin with.
So my point is, don't ever let someone else define what it means for you to be an artist! Its all up to you, and seriously, no matter who it is, fuck 'em if they don't like it.
LOL I'm the ONLY photographer on here? Actually I could have clicked almost all of the choices, I WENT TO ART SCHOOL. LOOK AT MY DIPLOMA! I'M AN ARTIST DAMMIT! I'M BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU BECAUSE I WENT TO SCHOOL! 
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Professional illustrators are either designers or painters.Sirensomn said:
[quote/]An artisan crafting items and selling them to make a living need not have a diploma from some institution of learning to be deemed an artist, right?[/quote]
In that case then anyone who knows the square root of 3, should be called a mathematician.
An artisan is someone who is very skilled in his craft, but not necessarily an artist.
I'm not really an artist myself, but a friend of mine is. He does paintings, drawings, clay. Fantastic work, really. He can emulate any art style, and can draw perfectly, like your profile. Anyway, he often asks my advice on things, because I have an eye for art.
Does this mean I am an artist, because I know what looks good, and I have an eye for it? I would say yes, to a point. Since I haven't actually produced something, I would also say no.
Does this mean I am an artist, because I know what looks good, and I have an eye for it? I would say yes, to a point. Since I haven't actually produced something, I would also say no.
"I just play games." = Me
Though on occasion I doodle, but doesn't change that they are crap still.
Though on occasion I doodle, but doesn't change that they are crap still.
Pretty cool stuff, what sorta music do you make? What instrument do you play/sing?Sirensomn said:
In that case then anyone who knows the square root of 3, should be called a mathematician.minoes said:
An artisan is someone who is very skilled in his craft, but not necessarily an artist.[/quote]
Fair enough.
My point is, though, that what someone is is relative.
Especially when it comes to (rather vague, at least to me) titles like 'artist'.
It's not necessary to go to an art school in order to be an 'artist', to produce art for a living or as a hobby.
There are many sources of information with which to improve your skill.
You sound as though you went to an art school yourself! Your work must be top-notch, then.
Well, the thing is that "art" is something intrinsically human, it comes from our necessity to express ourselves. we all can do it, there is nothing romantic or special about that.Sirensomn said:
And yes, as long as you have the skill and know what you are doing (and why you are doing it) you can become a self-taught artist. It´s not so much whether you go to an art school or not, but being knowledgable about the principles of art.
What I was trying to say is that being an artist is not something open to interpretation, there are principles that people need to known in order to make art.
The problem comes when people say that "art" and being an "artist" is something subjectve, which is not, even Dada and Anti-art have rules.
I don't consider myself an artist at all, I prefer the term "Illustrator", as I don't think my drawings qualify as "art" as a whole. I have a lot of good ideas for such things, but I cannot for the life of me express them.
I'd link to my SA page, but certain *people* might find it, and use that information in a malignant way towards me...
http://ixionindustries.sheezyart.com/
Also, I fucking hate it when people tell me my art isn't "anatomically correct". It makes me downright livid.
EDIT: Speaking of which, I have a question:
Do real artists draw with the whole "Ball n' line skeleton" trick? Because some douchebag saw me drawing like that, and he made the comment "Wow, you actually draw like that? That's the shitty way of making art!".
I'd link to my SA page, but certain *people* might find it, and use that information in a malignant way towards me...
http://ixionindustries.sheezyart.com/
Also, I fucking hate it when people tell me my art isn't "anatomically correct". It makes me downright livid.
EDIT: Speaking of which, I have a question:
Do real artists draw with the whole "Ball n' line skeleton" trick? Because some douchebag saw me drawing like that, and he made the comment "Wow, you actually draw like that? That's the shitty way of making art!".
I'm a writer. I'm also a bit on an actor.
Both elements really help me when storytelling World of Darkness games.
Both elements really help me when storytelling World of Darkness games.
I do a lot of creative writing in my free time. I'd love to make a career out of it but there isn't a whole lot of money there. xD Unless you hit it bit with the pre-teens (Twilight, much?) or something, and who really wants THAT as their accomplishment?