Poll: Pleasure in sex ed
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Smørrebrød is awesome. Nothing beats it for lunch. What is it even called in english ? In my knowledge rugbrød is a scandinavian thing right? :sJonluw said:
- I'm laughing so hard I'm crying over those 2 commercials. They are soooo true ! Except, that your neighbors will come join you if you play loud music all night!
Well, time to put in a different view, I guess.
I consider myself fortunate to get off during sex, no matter what my boyfriend and I may be doing, while many other woman I have personally met have spent hours researching how to obtain an orgasm on the internet. I don't know what made me one of the lucky few who doesn't need a toy or a special technique to "finish". Maybe it's all the time we spent just trying anything at all just to get me to "work", as it were. But even then, it took about three months to finally get anything to happen for me manually, and then another month once we started having sex.
And all those times that nothing was happening, and I could see the disappointment on my boyfriend's face like he was doing something wrong, or that I just wasn't interested? That hurt like hell, made me feel ashamed because why couldn't I perform a biological action that human beings were programmed to do?
And then I found out that it's a muscle memory that needs to be learned. So the combination of starting early on myself and the time and effort we put into it as a couple was what helped me feel great pleasure during sex. That's the kind of lesson they should teach, especially to girls but also to guys. That it's not an instant gratification sort of thing. That it will take time, and practice, and effort, and it may even take a few months to get it to work right. In my opinion, it just might help more women enjoy sex. And as an added bonus, it may also help them to identify when a guy is in it just for his own pleasure, so that they can properly kick his ass to the curb.
I consider myself fortunate to get off during sex, no matter what my boyfriend and I may be doing, while many other woman I have personally met have spent hours researching how to obtain an orgasm on the internet. I don't know what made me one of the lucky few who doesn't need a toy or a special technique to "finish". Maybe it's all the time we spent just trying anything at all just to get me to "work", as it were. But even then, it took about three months to finally get anything to happen for me manually, and then another month once we started having sex.
And all those times that nothing was happening, and I could see the disappointment on my boyfriend's face like he was doing something wrong, or that I just wasn't interested? That hurt like hell, made me feel ashamed because why couldn't I perform a biological action that human beings were programmed to do?
And then I found out that it's a muscle memory that needs to be learned. So the combination of starting early on myself and the time and effort we put into it as a couple was what helped me feel great pleasure during sex. That's the kind of lesson they should teach, especially to girls but also to guys. That it's not an instant gratification sort of thing. That it will take time, and practice, and effort, and it may even take a few months to get it to work right. In my opinion, it just might help more women enjoy sex. And as an added bonus, it may also help them to identify when a guy is in it just for his own pleasure, so that they can properly kick his ass to the curb.
TL;DR: We need to overhaul sex ed courses; they're useless and uninformative.
To some degree. As it stands, sex ed is more or less useless in my opinion. A teacher stands up, says that masturbation is normal, maybe rolls a condom onto a banana, and then goes back to teaching a normal class. However, I've known people (who had taken sex ed courses) who still had no idea how to actually go about the act of coitus. I've known people (even girls) who thought that the clitoris was useless and vulgar. I've known people who had absolutely no clue how to use contraceptives to avoid pregnancies or protect themselves from STDs. A lot of men I've known have been positively mystified by the vagina and had no clue how to deal with it. Even after supposedly being educated on the subject, a large number of people I've known had no clue as far as sex and sexuality are concerned.
So should they teach you how to properly get your partner off? No, I don't think so. But should they actually go into greater detail on anatomy and the mechanics of actually having sex? Yes. For the sake of sexual safety at the very least, kids should know BEFORE they start getting it on how to do so without screwing things up, getting pregnant or infected, hurting someone, etc. Granted, it's a difficult position to take (how do you explain to protective parents why your teaching their precious children how to have sex?), but I believe that it's a necessary one.
The problem arises with America's stance on sexuality (if you're not from the US, bear with me here, or just skip onto to a more interesting/relevant post). We, as a culture, glorify sex--in particular women's bodies--but are terrified to actually talk about it openly. It's only very rarely that I've had open discussions with people about the subject (as a man, I can count on one hand the number of women I've talked with candidly about human sexual anatomy). America needs to get over its fears and stop treating sex as a taboo--it's something that just about everyone is going to face/deal with in their lives; an open discussion can only serve to help. Instead, we treat sexuality like this [http://satwcomic.com/it-s-complicated]. Come on, people. Grow up. We've all got genitalia and we all want to use them--so let's face that like adults and talk about it. It'll do us all good.
To some degree. As it stands, sex ed is more or less useless in my opinion. A teacher stands up, says that masturbation is normal, maybe rolls a condom onto a banana, and then goes back to teaching a normal class. However, I've known people (who had taken sex ed courses) who still had no idea how to actually go about the act of coitus. I've known people (even girls) who thought that the clitoris was useless and vulgar. I've known people who had absolutely no clue how to use contraceptives to avoid pregnancies or protect themselves from STDs. A lot of men I've known have been positively mystified by the vagina and had no clue how to deal with it. Even after supposedly being educated on the subject, a large number of people I've known had no clue as far as sex and sexuality are concerned.
So should they teach you how to properly get your partner off? No, I don't think so. But should they actually go into greater detail on anatomy and the mechanics of actually having sex? Yes. For the sake of sexual safety at the very least, kids should know BEFORE they start getting it on how to do so without screwing things up, getting pregnant or infected, hurting someone, etc. Granted, it's a difficult position to take (how do you explain to protective parents why your teaching their precious children how to have sex?), but I believe that it's a necessary one.
The problem arises with America's stance on sexuality (if you're not from the US, bear with me here, or just skip onto to a more interesting/relevant post). We, as a culture, glorify sex--in particular women's bodies--but are terrified to actually talk about it openly. It's only very rarely that I've had open discussions with people about the subject (as a man, I can count on one hand the number of women I've talked with candidly about human sexual anatomy). America needs to get over its fears and stop treating sex as a taboo--it's something that just about everyone is going to face/deal with in their lives; an open discussion can only serve to help. Instead, we treat sexuality like this [http://satwcomic.com/it-s-complicated]. Come on, people. Grow up. We've all got genitalia and we all want to use them--so let's face that like adults and talk about it. It'll do us all good.
My dad would have snickered and my mom would have cheered and told me "Just go for it!"Gigaguy64 said:
Dad is one of those "dad trolls" (I hope to be one someday) and my mom is Italian and basically ecstatic anytime she thinks I might be having kids.
I recall telling her THE DAY IT HAPPENED that I had a girlfriend and she responded "Gonna have kids?"
no, sex-ed was treated as a joke subject already in my old school. No-one payed attention, the people who would be more likely to pay attention were those people who had enough brain power to know that getting a girl pregnant because you weren't wearing a condom is a bad thing and all the people who were the most likely to go out and have sex with many different people never listened in class anyway. Personally I would feel uncomfortable with learing about that sort of thing, the anatomy and learning about STI's is enough. the classes are not supposed to be encouraging everyone to go have sex and 'this is the way that you'll be really good at it apparently', but to try and decrease STI's and teenage pregnancy.
heck no! I had to learn how to please a woman myself! With my own sweat and... There is no way the younger generations should be able to know my tricks without failing a half dozen times themselves like I did! When did it become a good idea to spoon feed the newer generations in all aspects of life? What about the kids that are virgins until they are 25+? you really think they will remember back to that grade 9 health ed class and be like "oh ya, I remember now, look for the man in the boat!"
TLDR; NO, live and learn.
TLDR; NO, live and learn.
I don't know about rugbrød, but pålegg/pålæg is as a term pretty much untranslateble. Other countries just don't really have the whole bread culture. You never see people in movies eating just a straight slice of bread with a few slices of cheese...Napierdalac said:Smørrebrød is awesome. Nothing beats it for lunch. What is it even called in english ? In my knowledge rugbrød is a scandinavian thing right? :sJonluw said:
- I'm laughing so hard I'm crying over those 2 commercials. They are soooo true ! Except, that your neighbors will come join you if you play loud music all night!
When you're saying 'rugbrød' now, are you referring to that dark brown, compact things normally cut in thin slices, or just regular bread made from rye?
Hahaha nice.theultimateend said:My dad would have snickered and my mom would have cheered and told me "Just go for it!"Gigaguy64 said:
Dad is one of those "dad trolls" (I hope to be one someday) and my mom is Italian and basically ecstatic anytime she thinks I might be having kids.
I recall telling her THE DAY IT HAPPENED that I had a girlfriend and she responded "Gonna have kids?"
Bet your mom is gonna be a "Spoiling" Grandma one day.
And Troll dad huh?
Actually funny or a...
Me as a kid
ad im hungry Dad:High hungry, im dad!"
An adult talking to a room full of children about sex is pretty, um, hard to navigate as it is. An adult talking about G-spots and orgasms to a room full of kids is beyond a certain line that you should never cross.
If I had to describe it I'd say cold and calculated. He knows the perfect time to insult me to get maximum embarrassment.Gigaguy64 said:Hahaha nice.
Bet your mom is gonna be a "Spoiling" Grandma one day.
And Troll dad huh?
Actually funny or a...
Me as a kid
Dad:High hungry, im dad!"
Unfortunately for him I've built up a resistance to it, but now we both try our best to rile the other up.
Good man, great father, and he's a better grandfather than most of my siblings are parents.
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@OP Since I forgot to chime in about that specifically.
Perhaps it has been my upbringing but I've never seen sex as something magical that needed protecting. It's neat yes, fascinating even, but we should be honest with people hitting puberty and beyond.
They should know that its fun, healthy, and if done properly minimally dangerous.
Likewise there needs to be reform into childcare, raising a child properly should not be financially destructive. (I know people mention overpopulation but its not the population that is the problem it is distribution methods, population gravitation, and corrupt governing on a planet wide scale. Not necessary corrupt because of evil, I'm optimistic and just think its an ignorance and the result of many leaders living long sheltered lives.)
As long as we assume that adults cannot have an objective and serious conversation about sexuality with kids we will create an environment where only those that cannot will be having the conversations.Cheesus333 said:
Because that conversation'll be terribly fun.Gigaguy64 said:
OT: I don't think so, but it wouldn't be a terrible idea to give a quick once-over of some stuff. It'll all get figured out through personal experience anyway, so there isn't a whole lot that's needed to be taught.
No. Wouldn't that make Sex ed a subject with a shitload of content, seeing as everyone is different and stuff.
