I'm planning to draw an actual donkey on the ballot. I've been honing my donkey pencil skills all year.Freezy_Breezy said:Donkey voting for the win. Not that 1-2-3-4-5 crap, just scribble on the ballot.
And we complained about John Howard.Supertegwyn said:Well, the Liberals are against fast internet, so if you like the internet, don't vote for them.Cobbs said:Someone give me a quick rundown, which party is most likely to make things better around here, or which party is going to do the least damage? From what I've read so far it looks like we're all fucked either way.
Tony Abbott is a lying bastard who will more than likely drive the country into the ground.
Labour or Greens would be my choice.
I liked the way you fraised that friend.Reginald said:We get a great variety of choice in Australian politics. Two varieties of sewage and a donkey vote.
My ballot paper would like a word with you.J3bba said:The people who said sex party are just trolling, no one votes for the sex party.
Yeah Gillard is Welsh (like meShinkicker444 said:Call me crazy but I kinda miss KRudd. I'm not sure but maybe it is because that out of the crap we're stuck with these days, he was much more palatable. Also, yeah Howard, they did do pretty well for us despite how many people he annoyed for whatever reason (yeesh, don't start my grand mother up on him!).
On the whole, I'm not a fan of any of the parties really. None of them seem to actually care for what I want so I don't really care for them. Usually I just go with 'the devil you know' type of approach, and I think I will probably vote labour again since Abbot kinda scares me.
Side note does anyone else think Gillard sounds... false... I mean, more so than other politicians... like literally, she sounds like some sort of computer generated recording.
Democracy would be way better if we could put a bullet in Tony Abbott's brain.MeChaNiZ3D said:I vote for the Greens. And I sort of go for Labor as second, but recently it's becoming so much like the Liberals that it's not even a joke anymore. And what policies they do have are being watered down to the point of ineffectuality by the Liberals, who, true to their position, oppose everything that is done. Honestly I think we'd be a lot better off if I just had one day where I could have all the politicians in one room and shoot the ones I didn't approve of. Sadly that's not how democracy works.
Oh gods, Pyne? I'd move to another electorate, I mean Tony Abbot is a bull-headed mysoginist, but Pyne? He is just such a...shit.pyrate said:Both major parties are pretty much the same, it is not like either one is going to royally screw us over any time soon, the Libs under Howard did set us up pretty well.
For the Senate my 1 goes to Nick Xenophon. The guy is a legend in SA. It sucks that he left State politics for Federal though.
Christopher Pyne is my local MP and although I don't like the guy I vote for him on the grounds that he is a senior Liberal member and it never hurts to have someone on the front bench as your rep.
Dude you are coming across as an idiot right now. Just stop. Both parties are exactly the same, they just have a different way of employing their methods.Supertegwyn said:Democracy would be way better if we could put a bullet in Tony Abbott's brain.MeChaNiZ3D said:I vote for the Greens. And I sort of go for Labor as second, but recently it's becoming so much like the Liberals that it's not even a joke anymore. And what policies they do have are being watered down to the point of ineffectuality by the Liberals, who, true to their position, oppose everything that is done. Honestly I think we'd be a lot better off if I just had one day where I could have all the politicians in one room and shoot the ones I didn't approve of. Sadly that's not how democracy works.
My comment was what we call a joke.Von Strimmer said:Dude you are coming across as an idiot right now. Just stop. Both parties are exactly the same, they just have a different way of employing their methods.Supertegwyn said:Democracy would be way better if we could put a bullet in Tony Abbott's brain.MeChaNiZ3D said:I vote for the Greens. And I sort of go for Labor as second, but recently it's becoming so much like the Liberals that it's not even a joke anymore. And what policies they do have are being watered down to the point of ineffectuality by the Liberals, who, true to their position, oppose everything that is done. Honestly I think we'd be a lot better off if I just had one day where I could have all the politicians in one room and shoot the ones I didn't approve of. Sadly that's not how democracy works.
For example the carbon tax vs direct action. Gillard wants to tax big business and then install an ETS a few years down the road. The tax will last roughly 3 years and people get compensation for one year (and you have to have kids, and it is means tested). Direct action involves giving money to business to give them incentive to go green (stupid idea imo), it also involves planting an area the size of Germany with trees (which is more environmentally concsious than tax imo).
Gillard is a liar, nothing anyone says can refute that fact (though she is a lawyer, to be expected). Abbott just has a terrible case of foot in mouth and is sooking over losing the election.
Also you cant justify the Malaysia solution over Nauru.
Also the NBN is a massive joke at the moment, its costing billions of dollars and wont be done for 9 years. Whereas Tony's wi-fi idea got coverage to everyone (remember NBN doesnt cover populations of under a thousand people), it's just slower but just as effective.
Also what about Gillards backflip over poker reform? Her and Wilkie wanted to tax clubs and pubs and make a fixed allowance for pokie machines/ban them. Abbott wanted to introduce and provide counselling to help people through it. Is helping people or deciding for them a worse idea to you?
I could go on but the fact is: Dont listen to some random on the internet who clearly is misinformed and has an agenda. Do your own research and find which party best represents your interests and vote for them.
Edit: Also I have been a long standing liberal supporter. However I dislike the current liberal and labor parties, however I back the liberals because their policies suit my interests. Its your right to disagree and I invite you to argue your points. Because arguing is better than saying you want to shoot an MP in the head.
My apologies! It's hard to interperet emotion on the interwebs, especially when politics is involved and after reading some Reddit comments.Supertegwyn said:My comment was what we call a joke.Von Strimmer said:Dude you are coming across as an idiot right now. Just stop. Both parties are exactly the same, they just have a different way of employing their methods.Supertegwyn said:Democracy would be way better if we could put a bullet in Tony Abbott's brain.MeChaNiZ3D said:I vote for the Greens. And I sort of go for Labor as second, but recently it's becoming so much like the Liberals that it's not even a joke anymore. And what policies they do have are being watered down to the point of ineffectuality by the Liberals, who, true to their position, oppose everything that is done. Honestly I think we'd be a lot better off if I just had one day where I could have all the politicians in one room and shoot the ones I didn't approve of. Sadly that's not how democracy works.
For example the carbon tax vs direct action. Gillard wants to tax big business and then install an ETS a few years down the road. The tax will last roughly 3 years and people get compensation for one year (and you have to have kids, and it is means tested). Direct action involves giving money to business to give them incentive to go green (stupid idea imo), it also involves planting an area the size of Germany with trees (which is more environmentally concsious than tax imo).
Gillard is a liar, nothing anyone says can refute that fact (though she is a lawyer, to be expected). Abbott just has a terrible case of foot in mouth and is sooking over losing the election.
Also you cant justify the Malaysia solution over Nauru.
Also the NBN is a massive joke at the moment, its costing billions of dollars and wont be done for 9 years. Whereas Tony's wi-fi idea got coverage to everyone (remember NBN doesnt cover populations of under a thousand people), it's just slower but just as effective.
Also what about Gillards backflip over poker reform? Her and Wilkie wanted to tax clubs and pubs and make a fixed allowance for pokie machines/ban them. Abbott wanted to introduce and provide counselling to help people through it. Is helping people or deciding for them a worse idea to you?
I could go on but the fact is: Dont listen to some random on the internet who clearly is misinformed and has an agenda. Do your own research and find which party best represents your interests and vote for them.
Edit: Also I have been a long standing liberal supporter. However I dislike the current liberal and labor parties, however I back the liberals because their policies suit my interests. Its your right to disagree and I invite you to argue your points. Because arguing is better than saying you want to shoot an MP in the head.
I heavily dislike Tony Abbott, but I don't want him dead.
Removed from Parliament? Yes.
Dead? No.
That's all right, I've raged at a few people myself who were just jokingVon Strimmer said:My apologies! It's hard to interperet emotion on the interwebs, especially when politics is involved and after reading some Reddit comments.Supertegwyn said:My comment was what we call a joke.Von Strimmer said:Dude you are coming across as an idiot right now. Just stop. Both parties are exactly the same, they just have a different way of employing their methods.Supertegwyn said:Democracy would be way better if we could put a bullet in Tony Abbott's brain.MeChaNiZ3D said:I vote for the Greens. And I sort of go for Labor as second, but recently it's becoming so much like the Liberals that it's not even a joke anymore. And what policies they do have are being watered down to the point of ineffectuality by the Liberals, who, true to their position, oppose everything that is done. Honestly I think we'd be a lot better off if I just had one day where I could have all the politicians in one room and shoot the ones I didn't approve of. Sadly that's not how democracy works.
For example the carbon tax vs direct action. Gillard wants to tax big business and then install an ETS a few years down the road. The tax will last roughly 3 years and people get compensation for one year (and you have to have kids, and it is means tested). Direct action involves giving money to business to give them incentive to go green (stupid idea imo), it also involves planting an area the size of Germany with trees (which is more environmentally concsious than tax imo).
Gillard is a liar, nothing anyone says can refute that fact (though she is a lawyer, to be expected). Abbott just has a terrible case of foot in mouth and is sooking over losing the election.
Also you cant justify the Malaysia solution over Nauru.
Also the NBN is a massive joke at the moment, its costing billions of dollars and wont be done for 9 years. Whereas Tony's wi-fi idea got coverage to everyone (remember NBN doesnt cover populations of under a thousand people), it's just slower but just as effective.
Also what about Gillards backflip over poker reform? Her and Wilkie wanted to tax clubs and pubs and make a fixed allowance for pokie machines/ban them. Abbott wanted to introduce and provide counselling to help people through it. Is helping people or deciding for them a worse idea to you?
I could go on but the fact is: Dont listen to some random on the internet who clearly is misinformed and has an agenda. Do your own research and find which party best represents your interests and vote for them.
Edit: Also I have been a long standing liberal supporter. However I dislike the current liberal and labor parties, however I back the liberals because their policies suit my interests. Its your right to disagree and I invite you to argue your points. Because arguing is better than saying you want to shoot an MP in the head.
I heavily dislike Tony Abbott, but I don't want him dead.
Removed from Parliament? Yes.
Dead? No.
Oh, he's top of the list, believe me. It just wouldn't be conceptually fair. People should be allowed to have an idiot ruin the country if they're stupid enough to vote for one. In theory.Supertegwyn said:Democracy would be way better if we could put a bullet in Tony Abbott's brain.MeChaNiZ3D said:I vote for the Greens. And I sort of go for Labor as second, but recently it's becoming so much like the Liberals that it's not even a joke anymore. And what policies they do have are being watered down to the point of ineffectuality by the Liberals, who, true to their position, oppose everything that is done. Honestly I think we'd be a lot better off if I just had one day where I could have all the politicians in one room and shoot the ones I didn't approve of. Sadly that's not how democracy works.