I figured the corrupt guy would be most effective. We don't want someone inexperienced of incompetent. Guess it's Teddy for me.
It wasn't so much what he did to Germany as it was the Jews, Homosexuals, and pretty much anyone that didn't support the cause.Credge said:This. What he did with Germany was astounding. What he did to Germany is a different matter.Xanadeas said:I chose C, Hitler. For the exact same reasons countless others did. He was charismatic and frankly an astounding leader. He of course wasn't a good person but he was a great orator and knew how to get people moving.
source then i'll believedeadman91 said:Hitler wasn't a Christian, that's a common but unfortunate misunderstanding. He consulted with astrologers and tried communicating with dead German kings as well, and was very into much of that stuff commonly called new-age and neo-pagan or even wiccan. Its one of those things that has been interestingly forgotten or ignored.Gormourn said:And to be fair, I don't see any difference between A relying on astrologers and C, for example, being a christian. Both of these things are bullshit in my eyes, and if either have any effect on their political decisions - *looks at Bush and his whole "God told us to -" statements" - then fuck them.
Biography on Adolf by a Frenchman. Think it was "The Fuhrer behind Hitler" (translated name). Found it in the Library one day. That's all I remember. It went through a lot of interesting things about the man, like a love-hate thing with Charlie Chaplain movies, his love-hate relationship with the Arabs and his work in animal rights.wolfy098 said:source then i'll believedeadman91 said:Hitler wasn't a Christian, that's a common but unfortunate misunderstanding. He consulted with astrologers and tried communicating with dead German kings as well, and was very into much of that stuff commonly called new-age and neo-pagan or even wiccan. Its one of those things that has been interestingly forgotten or ignored.Gormourn said:And to be fair, I don't see any difference between A relying on astrologers and C, for example, being a christian. Both of these things are bullshit in my eyes, and if either have any effect on their political decisions - *looks at Bush and his whole "God told us to -" statements" - then fuck them.
I don't know, but this is one of the best threads I've seen in a long time.L9OBL said:dang howd this turn into a religious debate?
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Credge said:Where those the only attributes?L9OBL said:still those where their attributes roosevelt delt with crooked politicians winston was kicked out of office and the most scandalous thing hitler ever did was be patriotic (im not siding with him the holocaust was actually out of patriatism)
No.
This is why this example, as well as the abortion one, doesn't show or prove a thing other than things can be skewed... which everyone knows anyway.
What I'm getting at is that just about everyone who's at the age to vote for a leader is at the point where they realize this.
Or, to put it another way:
Choose one of the two carefully:
1. One kills you.
2. One relieves your pain.
Which would you prefer?
Well, the first one is water, which having had enough of it in a short period of time will kill you. The other is oxycodone, which, having had enough of it in a short period of time will kill you.
This doesn't really mean anything though, and that's the point.