Poll: Politicly Correct my A**

[Vredesbyrd67]

Payola = Paying a mass communication service to feature one's own product/artist more prominently than others on the condition of payment to the service

Blackmail = Coercing someone into doing something they wouldn't normally want to do through the use of intimidation or threats

M'yeah. Payola =/= Blackmail.

 

[The Man With the Soap]

It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.

LOL

You have no idea how tempted I am to quote you in this essay I'm writing.

Would that be okay with you?

That depends, what is your thesis?

The gist of my thesis is that political correctness is a load of bullshit (yes ms. Maggio BULL shit, not Animal shit).
And that Maggio really needs to shut the fuck up about it.

Really? I would describe it more as chickenshit, but that's just my opinion.

 

[dex-dex]

yeah that's crap!

life is offensive. grow a pair and not everyting needs to be sugarcoated(also the diabetics would not like everything to be sugarcoated).
that is what politicaly correct seems like to me.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

Screw political correctness sideways with a poleaxe. The lunatic fringe of liberals who are the biggest proponents of "PC language" are apparently completely oblivious to the sad fact that their incessant tap-dancing around language to avoid any possible method of giving offense is, in fact, offensive in and of itself - by treating the various minorities they're seeking to protect from being offended as distinct minorities in dire need of protection from having their feelings hurt by language that isn't even intentionally discriminatory for crying out loud, they hurt their own bloody cause.

Ham-handed attempts to make our language more "inclusive" ring false to just about everyone who isn't a wack-job Political Correctness proponent, as the unspoken message conveyed by PC language is thus: "You are a minority, so I shall alter my speech patterns to avoid inadvertently offending you in some way, and thereby draw further attention to the fact that when I look at you, I perceive your defining trait to be that you are a minority".

If you don't see the problem with that, consider the unspoken message conveyed when someone speaks to a minority the same way they speak to everyone else they meet (presuming of course that they do not ordinarily speak in a fashion that could only be perceived as denigrating to minorities by any reasonable listener[footnote]Not Political Correctness gurus in other words.[/footnote]): "You are a person, so I will speak to you like I speak to everyone else, duh."

In a nutshell, the pointless efforts to make our language [whatever]-blind only draws attention to the fact that the speaker isn't [whatever]-blind, as they felt they needed to change the way they speak on a fairly fundamental level because some people they might talk to are different than others. It's frankly rather insulting and condescending to the very individuals they're supposedly "protecting" by making those clunky revisions to our language. So screw Political Correctness - just treat people like people.

 

[Naheal]

No no no no no!
I can stand by not using derogatory words to describe people who are: Black, Gay, Mentally Retarded.

Every single one of those terms is not PC. If you want the PC terms, it's "African American" (or whatever country you happen to be in), Homosexual, and Mentally Impaired.

Personally, I don't care either way. It's not the words themselves that are derogatory, but the context that they're in that makes them derogatory.

 

[Oscar Bjorklund]

I wouldn't use a racial slur or anything of the sorts against another person unless I'm angry at the person, but changing words such as "blackmail" because it can be deemed offensive is plainly retarded(not exceptional ^^).

 

[TimeLord]

P.C governments need to die very quickly to preserve our way of life. This is a topic that I feel very strongly about and hate the state of my country because we can't play a game of conkers without FUCKING GOGGLES!
Or climb a tree without a safety harness.
Or go up a 4 foot ladder without a hard hat.
Or walk in the countryside in case we trip and sue the local council.
Or call christmas, christmas in case we offend Muslims.
Or call christmas lights, fairy lights in case we offend gay people.
Or change the words of an age old nursery rhyme so not to offend black people. Who were never offended by it in the first place.
Or call a chalk board a "black board" for the reason above.
Or not moving 3 caravans of Gypsy travellers off PRIVATE land next to my house because they "haven't done anything illegal yet".
Or you can't say brainstorm 'cos that's what happens to people with epilepsy when they have a fit. Even though the two things had never been connected until some bright spark thought it could offend someone!
Or do anything that involves leaving our homes without a written statement saying you won't sue anyone if you graze your knee!

"Bah Bah, African American Sheep. Have you any wool?
Yes sir, yes sir. 3 bags full.
Can I have it?
No. Get permission from the government to handle bags of wool so you don't come back and sue me, first!"

And you know the absolute worst thing?
A store chain called the "Early Learning Centre" that sells toys for small kids removed pigs from a farmyard set, in case it offended anyone.

WELL IT OFFENDS ME THAT YOU DID THAT!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

Political correctness does not create a more tolerant society. It creates a society of people secretly consumed by resentment because one honest slip of the tongue can earn them a label as an intolerant boob. Political correctness limits speech and creates hatred where none existed in the first place.

Link [http://www.violentacres.com/archives/116/im-sick-of-political-correctness/]

Couldn't agree more.

Screw political correctness sideways with a poleaxe. The lunatic fringe of liberals who are the biggest proponents of "PC language" are apparently completely oblivious to the sad fact that their incessant tap-dancing around language to avoid any possible method of giving offense is, in fact, offensive in and of itself - by treating the various minorities they're seeking to protect from being offended as distinct minorities in dire need of protection from having their feelings hurt by language that isn't even intentionally discriminatory for crying out loud, they hurt their own bloody cause.

Ham-handed attempts to make our language more "inclusive" ring false to just about everyone who isn't a wack-job Political Correctness proponent, as the unspoken message conveyed by PC language is thus: "You are a minority, so I shall alter my speech patterns to avoid inadvertently offending you in some way, and thereby draw further attention to the fact that when I look at you, I perceive your defining trait to be that you are a minority".

If you don't see the problem with that, consider the unspoken message conveyed when someone speaks to a minority the same way they speak to everyone else they meet (presuming of course that they do not ordinarily speak in a fashion that could only be perceived as denigrating to minorities by any reasonable listener[footnote]Not Political Correctness gurus in other words.[/footnote]): "You are a person, so I will speak to you like I speak to everyone else, duh."

In a nutshell, the pointless efforts to make our language [whatever]-blind only draws attention to the fact that the speaker isn't [whatever]-blind, as they felt they needed to change the way they speak on a fairly fundamental level because some people they might talk to are different than others. It's frankly rather insulting and condescending to the very individuals they're supposedly "protecting" by making those clunky revisions to our language. So screw Political Correctness - just treat people like people.

Plus everything said here.

 

[Worgen]

It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.

LOL

You have no idea how tempted I am to quote you in this essay I'm writing.

Would that be okay with you?

That depends, what is your thesis?

It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.

yeah, they should be like the rightist and just try and enslave and kill, sigh, what is the world coming to

I'm not advocating being a rightist. I think both extremes are equally stupid.

partly but it seems like one extreme is peta (which is stupid) and the other one is the kkk (which is stupid and dangerous)

 

[harv3034]

partly but it seems like one extreme is peta (which is stupid) and the other one is the kkk (which is stupid and dangerous)

Oh god I totaly forgot about PETA.
*I try not to think about the KKK and neo-nazis so thanks for that*

 

[Skratt]

The problem with PC is that it attempts to fix things in so many wrong ways. When you look at politically correct terms, they are attempting to correct people's attitudes through attrition. Attrition being if you stop hearing the words, you stop thinking in those terms, which is Noble on paper, but retarded in practice.

Handi-capped becomes handi-capable (WTF?) which completely breaks with the meaning and origins of the word in order to stem the tidal wave of cultural and social aggression that most of us just "live with". Changing fat to big-boned or fluffy doesn't make the subject of the conversation any more comfortable. There is no difference between saying someone is a "fat-ass" or a "big boned mfer".

If you want to be socially or politically correct, just use some tact and keep your opinions to yourself.

 

[MR.Spartacus]

First, the context.
I am in the middle of writing a Persuasive essay on Freedom of Speech on College Campuses (worst topic ever by the way). As part of this assignment, I have to read various articles on the topic for homework so I can use some of them for source material and/or supporing/counterarguments.
Tonight's reading is called "Bias-Free Language: Some Guidelines" written by Rosalie Maggio. In this essay, Maggio says that political correctness is very important and that we need to activly work to instatute it into everyday language. At it's core this is a good thing, but the way she wants us to go about it sucks away all the credibility of the argument and throws the article into "parady mode."

Maggio says that when refering to a group of mixed gener or a person of unknown gender, we must not use words and phrases that imply masculinity (he, sir, waiter, ect...). Again, hard to dispute, but later she goes to suggest the general removal of the letter combinations m-a-n and m-e-n from many everyday words.
Under this policy, we would also have to change a great many other words on the grounds that they might offend 1 person out of 10,000. Fat would become "big-boned" or "differently sized", Stupid becomes "exceptional", and Stoned would be re-branded as "chemically inconvenienced".To prevent the chance of seeming racist, we would need to change "black eye" to "mouse", "black mail" to "payola", and "black sheep" to "outcast".
And these changes would need to be implemented, not just in writing, but in verbal communication as well.


To me, this is utterly rediculous. But I want your opinions as well.
So, what do you think?

It's patently absurd to alter one's language to this extent. I really can't say that there's anything I'd find offensive. I don't see why anyone cares. As long as they aren't going out of their way to be offensive then fine. If they are then the "offended party" needs to toughen up a bit. Unless it's a threat but that's a different story altogether.

Also I can see "exceptional" as an awesome way to insult someone stupid while they're present. That just oozes sarcasm. Yeah he's exceptional alright, exceptionally dim!

 

[Ickorus]

Rediculous indeed.

I have found that using politicly correct terms makes things a lot more awkward than simply saying "black", for example. It throws it out there that you don't want to offend them and that you think you will offend them, it's just awkward for everybody.

And FYI, not every black person is an "African American". Like, what do we call black people living in England? African English? I know people that would call them African Americans simply so they don't call them black, even though they aren't American.

I had an American call me out on saying 'black guy' once and telling me off telling me I should be saying 'African American', I called him stupid (Exceptional!) and told him the guy I was referring to was another English guy like me so he can hardly be American.

By that womans[footnote]Wait, woman/women has man/men in it, we supposed to call them Wo's now then?[/footnote] logic we'll have to call black heads coloured heads because black heads obviously paint black people in a negative light.

Seriously, people that are politically correct and make sure that everything they say is PC are the most racist of us all.

 

[ElTigreSantiago]

Rediculous indeed.

I have found that using politicly correct terms makes things a lot more awkward than simply saying "black", for example. It throws it out there that you don't want to offend them and that you think you will offend them, it's just awkward for everybody.

And FYI, not every black person is an "African American". Like, what do we call black people living in England? African English? I know people that would call them African Americans simply so they don't call them black, even though they aren't American.

I had an American call me out on saying 'black guy' once and telling me off telling me I should be saying 'African American', I called him stupid (Exceptional!) and told him the guy I was referring to was another English guy like me so he can hardly be American.

By that womans logic we'll have to call black heads coloured heads because black heads obviously paint black people in a negative light.

Seriously, people that are politically correct and make sure that everything they say is PC are the most racist of us all.

Spoiler: A round of applause.

Thank you, my English friend. That story was a perfect example and it made me laugh.

Oh, wait! Did I say "English"? How blunt and offensive, I'm so sorry! I meant to say the politicly-correct term, "Inhabitant of Earth Living and/or Located in the Southern Area of the United Kingdom".

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I'm surprised how anti PC so many people are here.

I'll agree that sometimes it's gone too far, tho, as I said earlier, a vast amount of the bullshit you read about 'brainstorms' and 'black marker pens' and 'fairy lights', along with Christmas being banned, it's completely made up by the papers.

Has anyone been in ANY shops ANYWHERE recently? Want to tell me how there's no xmas stuff to be found anywhere, and that you can only buy inflatable mosques and happy jihad cards?

I think if most people think about it a little more, they'd consider PC to 'be a good thing that's gone too far sometimes', or perhaps you think all the racially and sexually abusive slang is just fine, and mocking disabled children is a good evening's entertainment.

We've come a long way from it being socially acceptable to refer to anyone as paki, darkie, coon, or ****** in casual conversation, and surely that's a good thing?

For instance , a recent event given a full page was about a council renaming 'gingerbread men' to 'gingerbread persons'. This was 'obviously' a sign that PC had taken over common sense and needed to be shouted from the rooftops.

Except that one phone call brought up that they'd called them that as a joke, based on how silly some people can be about PC stuff, and of course, national newspapers don't have time to go making a single phone in the name of...I don't know, 'research' or 'fact checking'. Not if it'd get in the way of a headline.

 

[CaptainKoala]

People have the right to be offended, but they don't have the right to tell me that I should be offended too. So then they try to shut down whatever it is that offended them.

 

[Kortney]

Let that great quote by Stewart Lee do the talking:

"I'm of an age where I can see the difference that political correctness has made. When I was four years old, my Grandfather drove me around Birmingham where the Tories had just fought an election campaign saying, "If you want a ****** for a neighbour. Vote Labour." And he drove me around saying "this is where all the coons and niggers and jungle bunnies live" and I remember being at school and the teacher when he read the register, instead of saying the name of the one Asian boy in the class he'd say "Is the black spot in?"

And all these things have gradually been eroded by political correctness which seems to be about institutionalised politeness at it's worse. And if there is some fallout from this which means that someone in an office might get in trouble one day for saying something that someone was a bit unsure about because they couldn't decide if it was sexist, or homophobic, or racist, it's a small price to pay for the massive benefits and improvements in the quality of the life for millions of people that political correctness has made."