Poll: Poll: MLP good?

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Kenbo Slice

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TopazFusion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
If I had never watched any other TV show, ever, I might be tricked into thinking MLP is clever or funny or original... but everything I've seen reeks trite cliche.
So you have seen it, yes?
Johnny Novgorod said:
Also - dude, they're ponies.
I'm not sure the point you're making with this.

The species of the characters is completely immaterial and irrelevant.

That's like saying Loony Toons is no good because "dude, they're animals", which is an equally as stupid thing to say.
His point is ponies are typically seen as girly.
 

Casual Shinji

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Given I fucking hate flash animation with the power of a thousand suns... No, I haven't been too keen on watching it, and I never will.

And even if it was actual good animation there'd still be that whole awkward wall made of bronies to get past.
 

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TopazFusion said:
Kenbo Slice said:
His point is ponies are typically seen as girly.
Please explain how this is a bad thing, without employing sexism, or using the 'appeal to tradition' logical fallacy.
I never said it was a bad thing. I was just saying that was the point he was making.
 

Legion

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I watched it at first purely to see what the fuss was about. I found it to be a lot more amusing than I expected, but a little too sickly sweet for my liking. I think the animation is pretty good, and the characters are too, but overall I can't see why it has so much adoration.

Kenbo Slice said:
TopazFusion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Also - dude, they're ponies.
I'm not sure the point you're making with this.

The species of the characters is completely immaterial and irrelevant.

That's like saying Loony Toons is no good because "dude, they're animals", which is an equally as stupid thing to say.
His point is ponies are typically seen as girly.
So were pink tops about ten years ago. Now I see straight guys wearing them more often than anybody else.
 

Kenbo Slice

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Legion said:
Kenbo Slice said:
TopazFusion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
If I had never watched any other TV show, ever, I might be tricked into thinking MLP is clever or funny or original... but everything I've seen reeks trite cliche.
So you have seen it, yes?
Johnny Novgorod said:
Also - dude, they're ponies.
I'm not sure the point you're making with this.

The species of the characters is completely immaterial and irrelevant.

That's like saying Loony Toons is no good because "dude, they're animals", which is an equally as stupid thing to say.
His point is ponies are typically seen as girly.
So were pink tops about ten years ago. Now I see straight guys wearing them more often than anybody else.
Actually pink was originally considered a guys color.
 

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Oh wow, another MLP thread discussing if the show is good or not? Its a good job these come up daily or I'd be in severe danger of forgetting the show exists!
 

Legion

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Kenbo Slice said:
Legion said:
Kenbo Slice said:
TopazFusion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
If I had never watched any other TV show, ever, I might be tricked into thinking MLP is clever or funny or original... but everything I've seen reeks trite cliche.
So you have seen it, yes?
Johnny Novgorod said:
Also - dude, they're ponies.
I'm not sure the point you're making with this.

The species of the characters is completely immaterial and irrelevant.

That's like saying Loony Toons is no good because "dude, they're animals", which is an equally as stupid thing to say.
His point is ponies are typically seen as girly.
So were pink tops about ten years ago. Now I see straight guys wearing them more often than anybody else.
Actually pink was originally considered a guys color.
I didn't say originally. I said ten years ago.

Long hair was the norm for men before the Victorian era, and it was also very common in the sixties to the eighties. Now short hair is generally seen as the most common look.

My point being that it doesn't really matter if something is seen as "girly" or "boyish" because these things constantly change, so saying that guys shouldn't like it because it is girly is as relevant as saying pink tops and long hair are.

In other words, it isn't.
 

jackpipsam

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I used to enjoy the show more than I do now.

I think the characters and the world make it stand out of other shows.
Also the flash animation looks amazing.

But since Derpygate I get the feeling the show is holding back its potential.
 

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I wouldn't say MLP is a great show, but the fandom it attracts can be very vast in the areas of what they enjoy
I myself enjoy it, but wouldn't be able to vote on this pole for that reason
 

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I really enjoy the show. It's a fun, colourful and sometimes surprisingly funny show with endearing characters. Expecting something philosophical from it is a stupid ask, because its primary appeal is as a kids show. With that in mind, it's a wonderful show. And I think it's somewhat beneficial as well - it's certainly broken down stereotypical sexist barriers for some people, apart from

Kenbo Slice said:
It's crap. Pure, crap. Also, if you're a guy who likes this show...seek help.
people like this guy, who, while firmly set in his own values, has a lack of tolerance towards others that needs more help than people that watch the show.
 

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As far as I can tell, people's love for it is usually related to one's tolerance for sincerity. We'll watch and read and play lots of works about love and family but it'll be wrapped up with war or drama or political debates and stuff. It's rare that it's the unabashed point of an entire work, with quite a bit of subtly removed, let alone such a long work.

That turns off a lot of people. If this poll is any indication, it's a good trait for most viewers. Anyone can acknowledge the animation and sound is good but...that's never really enough for an animation to build a fanbase. Having a cartoon (that's from the west) thoroughly based in character exploration and relationships, and what relationships mean and how/why they're formed and how they are broken....that's not just rare, it hasn't really...happened before.

The show also has a lot of subtly, particularly the villains and the very symbolic meaning of their powers....And some mild subtext about gender, though it's rarely emphasized.

...I dunno, if the world doesn't end from this notion I might talk about it in greater detail someday.
Six Feet Under has a lot of relationship stuff like you mentioned, but I do get the point you are putting forward.

OT: I don't like it. I've seen three or four episodes, and I thought it had boring characters and was not particularly funny. I have no problem if you do like it, but I don't think it is very good at all.
 

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I think a lot of the fan created content is pretty awesome. As for the show itself? I'm over it.
 

Pinkamena

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Well, it's good for a kids show. I do feel it has declined in quality lately. What made it so refreshing, fun and enjoyable in season 1 and also somewhat in season 2 is pretty much gone now.
 

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The best way to describe my feelings of MLP:FiM is inconsistent. There are alot of really good episodes that pull off character development well and can tell a good story but at the same time there are just as many episodes that fail to do anything in the 20mins of screentime. You could chalk this up to the number of writers and the fact that they are trying to appeal to two hugely different audiences but it is more evident in season 3 and late season 2 that the show was running out of good/interesting ideas quickly.

I poll'd myself as Average btw yet below average is much more fitting.
 

The Lugz

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the excessive pony gang mentality puts people off, frankly it's an average modern cartoon
i've seen plenty of them from the slightly darker devil may cry to the lighter avatar
and in-between ( d-gary )
http://www.funimation.com/dgray-man
which is far more worth your time if you want a story arc rather than over the top
pony morals which makes too childish for my taste but as i'm not the main target
audience anyway so it's probably fine if your into it
 

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While I'm no pastel-pony evangelist trying to convert people into MLP fans left and right, I have watched every episode at least once and will most likely keep doing so until they stop making them. MLP:FIM is an entertaining show, well put together. The main characters are interesting and varied, and most of the show revolves around their personalities playing off each other rather than the "another week, another monster" - format which has been the norm for far too long.

My favourite aspect of the show has to be its fanbase, though. Certainly, there are sickos out there producing material that makes "Cupcakes" look like "Sesame Street", but it takes next to no effort digging up something incredibly awesome!

EDIT:
 

Johnny Novgorod

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TopazFusion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
If I had never watched any other TV show, ever, I might be tricked into thinking MLP is clever or funny or original... but everything I've seen reeks trite cliche.
So you have seen it, yes?
Johnny Novgorod said:
Also - dude, they're ponies.
I'm not sure the point you're making with this.

The species of the characters is completely immaterial and irrelevant.

That's like saying Loony Toons is no good because "dude, they're animals", which is an equally as stupid thing to say.
I just think they seem to draw their popularity on being ridiculously cute and not particularly clever or funny is all. Like the Teletubbies.
 

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Kenbo Slice said:
TopazFusion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
If I had never watched any other TV show, ever, I might be tricked into thinking MLP is clever or funny or original... but everything I've seen reeks trite cliche.
So you have seen it, yes?
Johnny Novgorod said:
Also - dude, they're ponies.
I'm not sure the point you're making with this.

The species of the characters is completely immaterial and irrelevant.

That's like saying Loony Toons is no good because "dude, they're animals", which is an equally as stupid thing to say.
His point is ponies are typically seen as girly.
The viking steeds are girly now?