Poll: Press X to be a *****!
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Well yeah, but depending on how you look at it it isn't all bad. I mean Im not advocationg slavery or anything but I think Ceasar has the whole "Survival of the Fittest" going on. Point is he has morals and laws and implements them constantly across all classes and ethnicities. But the NCR depending on who you ask murder isn't a crime, "stealing? Nah, this is just redistribution of wealth", "Slaves? No, they're indentured servants" "Murder? Oh, you mean that body under the carpet?". Point being Ceasar is honest about everything he does the NCR isn't. He says fuck with me I'll kill you. NCR says you have the freedom of speech then takes you away in the night because you're the voice of dissent.EboMan7x said:Well yeah, except again, Caesar promotes slavery... so... theres that.Icarion said:Depends on my mood. If I have companions in a game I desperately want them to like me so I try not to piss them off. Sometiems I am happy to slay the prick who keeps holding me up, but ont the other hand if someone needs help I'll usually stop and help them.I think that's the point they're trying to get across. The NCR might look like the good guys, but deep down they're just selfish, corrupt pricks. And Ceasar is actually a pretty cool guy, he just has an inflated egoEboMan7x said:
Fallout 3 I had a picture of god on my karma meter which kinda pissed me off cus I did do some bad stuff so now I'm replaying the game evil but it is still hard as tits to do anything evil in the beginning apart from rape Megaton
even if I had to kill every single person in my kingdom, i would have screwed over Reaver. FUCK REAVER. as it was, I had enough money to fuck him over and still save everyone. still... but yeah, mostly good.
Well, okay fine the NCR are scumbags. But just because Caesar is being open about his assholism does not make him a good guy. In the end I feel it would be better to be on the good side of the NCR. Not that I actually support them, In "That Lucky old Sun" I distributed power to the entire region, and I support an Independent New Vegas. And also, I don't believe NCR has ever enslaved anybody. Or did I miss that quest?Icarion said:Well yeah, but depending on how you look at it it isn't all bad. I mean Im not advocationg slavery or anything but I think Ceasar has the whole "Survival of the Fittest" going on. Point is he has morals and laws and implements them constantly across all classes and ethnicities. But the NCR depending on who you ask murder isn't a crime, "stealing? Nah, this is just redistribution of wealth", "Slaves? No, they're indentured servants" "Murder? Oh, you mean that body under the carpet?". Point being Ceasar is honest about everything he does the NCR isn't. He says fuck with me I'll kill you. NCR says you have the freedom of speech then takes you away in the night because you're the voice of dissent.EboMan7x said:Well yeah, except again, Caesar promotes slavery... so... theres that.Icarion said:Depends on my mood. If I have companions in a game I desperately want them to like me so I try not to piss them off. Sometiems I am happy to slay the prick who keeps holding me up, but ont the other hand if someone needs help I'll usually stop and help them.I think that's the point they're trying to get across. The NCR might look like the good guys, but deep down they're just selfish, corrupt pricks. And Ceasar is actually a pretty cool guy, he just has an inflated egoEboMan7x said:
Does the Sharecropper farm count? Because it seemed like a pretty shitty deal for the people there. Im not sure though. I only have one playthrough and thats not even done yet. Im pretty sure there was no outright slavery though. And no being open about being an asshole doesn't make you good. but I think the whole point (kinda) of the game is to show that there is no true "right" or "wrong" just degrees of evilEboMan7x said:Well, okay fine the NCR are scumbags. But just because Caesar is being open about his assholism does not make him a good guy. In the end I feel it would be better to be on the good side of the NCR. Not that I actually support them, In "That Lucky old Sun" I distributed power to the entire region, and I support an Independent New Vegas. And also, I don't believe NCR has ever enslaved anybody. Or did I miss that quest?Icarion said:Well yeah, but depending on how you look at it it isn't all bad. I mean Im not advocationg slavery or anything but I think Ceasar has the whole "Survival of the Fittest" going on. Point is he has morals and laws and implements them constantly across all classes and ethnicities. But the NCR depending on who you ask murder isn't a crime, "stealing? Nah, this is just redistribution of wealth", "Slaves? No, they're indentured servants" "Murder? Oh, you mean that body under the carpet?". Point being Ceasar is honest about everything he does the NCR isn't. He says fuck with me I'll kill you. NCR says you have the freedom of speech then takes you away in the night because you're the voice of dissent.EboMan7x said:Well yeah, except again, Caesar promotes slavery... so... theres that.Icarion said:Depends on my mood. If I have companions in a game I desperately want them to like me so I try not to piss them off. Sometiems I am happy to slay the prick who keeps holding me up, but ont the other hand if someone needs help I'll usually stop and help them.I think that's the point they're trying to get across. The NCR might look like the good guys, but deep down they're just selfish, corrupt pricks. And Ceasar is actually a pretty cool guy, he just has an inflated egoEboMan7x said:
I tend to be good, and on the thought of Fable 3 how in the name of all that is holy is no drink limit and every single one of my subjects being drunk a good thing?
I've re-played through a couple games as an asshole. However my first play-through is always as a good character. I recently beat Fable 3 and I wasn't that impressed with it. I found 2 to be more fun even if its final boss was extremely pathetic. Also I really missed the time magic from the 2nd that let you teleport behind enemies.
I have an evil streak in games but most of the time I'll make all the good decisions. However, during Sims, I am evil. It gives me great pleasure to make them penniless and living the most horrible life I can possibly give them. But that's not really evil. Right?
You have to fight the hard fight with Vader anyway...if you choose the bad ending at that point, all you have to do is an easy fight to finish Vader off. The Emperor is the hardest fight.ssgt splatter said:
I would have chosen "Light shines from my every pore" but then I remembered Fallout 3 and I have to take "I'm pretty good, but no angel"
I'm not sure I follow your logic. To me The Emperor is much easier than Vader; although this might has something to do with the fact that he doesn't have his lightsaber. Vader is much harder because he can block almost all your attacks and can pretty much choose at will when he wants to interrupt your combo attack for no other reason other than cheating.DarkWarriorSSJ said:
Something similar happened to me when I played the demo for Heavy Rain. I was at the part in the hotel when that shady looking fellow barges into the door of a woman you were interrogating. On the first playthrough I went in after him without a second thought. On the second playthrough I wanted to see what would happen if I just left. It took every ounce of strength I had to walk away from it!
I don't find myself playing moral choice games. Even if I did, I would usually go to being a bad guy, because its fun to be an asshole.
I'm always always good. Being a jerk might be fun for some, but it kind of messes up the story when you're a dick to people and yet you're still "saving the world".
If the "evil" moral choice came down to more than you just being a jerk to people, maybe it might be more interesting to me. But as it is, the "good" path is usually the only one that fits the story.
If the "evil" moral choice came down to more than you just being a jerk to people, maybe it might be more interesting to me. But as it is, the "good" path is usually the only one that fits the story.