Poll: Prostitution

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Kajin

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I wouldn't touch one of those disease farms with even the most reliable of rubbers, but a lot can in fact be gained from legalising it. First of all, we're turning it into a profitable, taxable industry that will overall be much safer for everyone because instead of being forced to do business inside the crime riddled slums in order to hide from the cops, they can obtain protection from cops in pre-designated areas thus eliminating a good deal of the problems that prostitution inherently creates.

Granted, there are still all of those nasty health issues, but honestly they're gonna spread it anyway. We might as well do our part to make it a safer experience for everyone involved.
 

Ignignoct

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Kajin said:
I wouldn't touch one of those disease farms with even the most reliable of rubbers, but a lot can in fact be gained from legalising it. First of all, we're turning it into a profitable, taxable industry that will overall be much safer for everyone because instead of being forced to do business inside the crime riddled slums in order to hide from the cops, they can obtain protection from cops in pre-designated areas thus eliminating a good deal of the problems that prostitution inherently creates.

Granted, there are still all of those nasty health issues, but honestly they're gonna spread it anyway. We might as well do our part to make it a safer experience for everyone involved.
Just say you're not into hookers.

It seems foolish to say that you don't trust physicians and blood-tests conducted on a continual, scheduled basis.
 

CoziestPigeon

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If you legalize ANYTHING it takes away most of the danger. It would be government monitored and thus much cleaner and safer.
 

Lord_Ascendant

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Its morally wrong. And it is because of greed for money and Sex that this exists. It combines both into one decadent package. Its basically stamping your one-way ticket straight to hell. Sorry to sound preachy but I do not believe that any woman should be forced to sell her body on the streets.
 

Ajna

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Ignignoct said:
Ajna said:
Maze1125 said:
Most prostitutes are forced into it by circumstance or some bastard.
Punishing people who are already at the lowest point of their life seems rather pointless.

So no, being a prostitute shouldn't be illegal.
On the other hand, visiting a prostitute, or being a pimp, should be.
The legal definition of pimp is anyone who uses the income of a prostitute. This includes more people than you would think. The child of a prostitute is a pimp (legally) if the food they eat was bought using funds from prostitution. If a man's wife is a prostitute, then if they file for taxes together, it is pimping.

I say legalize it, and wrote a 4 page essay on it a year or so ago.

And in response to the many questions I will get: Yes, I would be okay with my daughter being a prostitute, though I would not be happy with it for two reasons, unrelated to the job:

1)It is a low pay job. Hourly, you're making a killing, but considering you don't work a standard 9-to-5 job as a prostitute, you don't really make that much.
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2)Considering I'm going into teaching, I would expect any child of mine to go into a job that requires knowledge. Prostitution is a low-qualification job.
Hookers make bank.

Are you're saying your daughter isn't pretty enough to be a prostitute? How cruel.

Your legal definition is jack-sh*t here when we're talking common sense, which blows away your absurd, stringy straw man argument. The old, flawed definition means nothing when we're debating what the law SHOULD BE.

I hope you get swine flu.

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Go with Christ.
Again: Hourly, they make good money, however, on a day-to-day basis, they don't make much more than anyone else in a low-skill job.

I intend to teach. I like knowledge. I want a son/daughter who appreciates knowledge as well. Being a prostitute does not require much knowledge at all.

Also, saying "Go with christ" doesn't change the fact that you wished physical harm upon me, which is tantamount to a threat of violence.
 

GothmogII

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Lord_Ascendant said:
Its morally wrong. And it is because of greed for money and Sex that this exists. It combines both into one decadent package. Its basically stamping your one-way ticket straight to hell. Sorry to sound preachy but I do not believe that any woman should be forced to sell her body on the streets.
No-one was suggesting anyone should be -forced-, just that, if legalised it could be better regulated and go a long way to turn it from unpalatable yet often necessary job, into something that is safe for both worker and client.

Second...I'm unsure how that morally wrong logic works exactly, is it because it's sex that when organised it becomes bad?

I mean, can't you take anything like that turn it on it's head and make it 'morally wrong'?
I play Magic the Gathering, a collectable card game, nothing wrong with that right? But, take that and create large gambling dens based around it, add in some extortion and violence and boom! It's the Devil's game!

Hence my feelings on the matter of prostitution...just, seems like a needless demonisation of sexual activity. The again, I'm a strong believer that once we'll eventually end up in a post scarcity hedonistic society, and that will be the best for all humankind.
 

Ignignoct

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Ajna said:
Again: Hourly, they make good money, however, on a day-to-day basis, they don't make much more than anyone else in a low-skill job.

I intend to teach. I like knowledge. I want a son/daughter who appreciates knowledge as well. Being a prostitute does not require much knowledge at all.

Also, saying "Go with christ" doesn't change the fact that you wished physical harm upon me, which is tantamount to a threat of violence.
They make as much as they want, almost like freelance strippers. This depends on so many x-factors as we all know, but you can't say it's a low-paying job without being disingenuous. Sure, the hookers that only work weekends may not make so much more than a 5-day 9-to-5 worker monthly, but the hooker that works 8 hours a day/night like the 9-to-5'er more by SEVERAL METAPHORICAL MILES!

I agree with you fully on the topic of knowledge.

And I know about the "Go with Christ" line. That's the joke: it doesn't make up for it in the least, but in reality there's nothing to make up for because my text isn't going to cause you harm.

Or... Maybe you think it does? You're not superstitious, are you?
 

Ajna

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Ignignoct said:
Ajna said:
Ignignoct said:
Ajna said:
Maze1125 said:
Most prostitutes are forced into it by circumstance or some bastard.
Punishing people who are already at the lowest point of their life seems rather pointless.

So no, being a prostitute shouldn't be illegal.
On the other hand, visiting a prostitute, or being a pimp, should be.
The legal definition of pimp is anyone who uses the income of a prostitute. This includes more people than you would think. The child of a prostitute is a pimp (legally) if the food they eat was bought using funds from prostitution. If a man's wife is a prostitute, then if they file for taxes together, it is pimping.

I say legalize it, and wrote a 4 page essay on it a year or so ago.

And in response to the many questions I will get: Yes, I would be okay with my daughter being a prostitute, though I would not be happy with it for two reasons, unrelated to the job:

1)It is a low pay job. Hourly, you're making a killing, but considering you don't work a standard 9-to-5 job as a prostitute, you don't really make that much.
AND
2)Considering I'm going into teaching, I would expect any child of mine to go into a job that requires knowledge. Prostitution is a low-qualification job.
Hookers make bank.

Are you're saying your daughter isn't pretty enough to be a prostitute? How cruel.

Your legal definition is jack-sh*t here when we're talking common sense, which blows away your absurd, stringy straw man argument. The old, flawed definition means nothing when we're debating what the law SHOULD BE.

I hope you get swine flu.

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Go with Christ.
Again: Hourly, they make good money, however, on a day-to-day basis, they don't make much more than anyone else in a low-skill job.

I intend to teach. I like knowledge. I want a son/daughter who appreciates knowledge as well. Being a prostitute does not require much knowledge at all.

Also, saying "Go with christ" doesn't change the fact that you wished physical harm upon me, which is tantamount to a threat of violence.
They make as much as they want, almost like freelance strippers. This depends on so many x-factors as we all know, but you can't say it's a low-paying job without being disingenuous.

I agree with you fully on the topic of knowledge.

And I know about the "Go with Christ" line. That's the joke: it doesn't make up for it in the least, but in reality there's nothing to make up for because my text isn't going to infect you with a deadly virus.

Or... Maybe it does? You're not superstitious, are you?
I'll let you know when I catch swine flu.
 

Altorin

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Maze1125 said:
Agayek said:
Maze1125 said:
So no, being a prostitute shouldn't be illegal.
On the other hand, visiting a prostitute, or being a pimp, should be.
Why? They have a service they want to sell, why make it illegal when no one involved is unwilling?
Because the significant majority of woman who are prostitutes, even of their own choice, don't want to be and only do it because they feel they aren't worthy of doing anything else.

Pretty much any time a man visits a prostitute he is exploiting a psychologically vulnerable person. There are of course exceptions, but not enough to validate legalising it.
yeah, but not legalizing it, that woman is still there, still hooking.

Only if the john beats her half to death, she can't go to the cops. If her pimp beats her for trying to take enough of her earned money to climb out of the hole she's in, she can't go to the cops. If she gets a disease (which she will), she will be worse then worthless in her own eyes.

Legalization and regulation fixes all of those problems. Girls who are in legal brothels, where they have the protection of the law and they control the rules of the encounter under the protection of the law, they tend to enjoy their work. They make more money, have a better quality of life, and are safer.
 

Sion_Barzahd

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104 votes to yes in legalising it. Thats astounding :)

If done in a controlled place such as a brothel, where the women are protected and made to take regular STD tests so that they're kept clean, i don't see the issue.
 

Altorin

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Sion_Barzahd said:
104 votes to yes in legalising it. Thats astounding :)

If done in a controlled place such as a brothel, where the women are protected and made to take regular STD tests so that they're kept clean, i don't see the issue.
Yeah, you should need to work at a licensed establishment, so no street walking, but the legal option should be there.
 

Lord George

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Its just another commodity that people are willing to pay for, and all the negatives of prostitution are only their because its illegal in the first place. Making it illegal has always done more harm then good for the women involved anyway.
 

Dorian

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All right! Let's legalize paid sex! I cannot see, in any way, the possibility of pregnancies and STDs having a negative impact on this at all. There won't be giant outbreaks of HIV, syphilis, etc. or populations sky-rocketing. At. ALL

Hell no. It would be the worst thing possible for any government to do.
 

ultimatechance

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I dont see any reason as to why it should be illegal, other than pimping, and TEH INNOCENTS OF HOUR CHILDRENS.
 
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MaxTheReaper said:
Actually, I don't get the whole "should we legalize [marijuana, cocaine, methamphetamine, whores, etc,] thing.
Who gives a fuck if it's against the law? How many people do you honestly think that stops? It sure doesn't make politicians hesitate before jumping in the car with a girl who's fucked more people than most of you have ever even known.
Yes, but by legalizing prostitution you would be getting rid of the criminal element (pimps, sex slaves, etc) and the government would also get something in return (i.e. taxes).
By having all of the prostitutes work in a safe enviroment (brothel, as opposed to a dirty alleyway) with regular health checks, you would also prevent the spread of STDs.
Also, the prostitutes would be safe from abusive pimps or rapist customers.

So yeah, it kinda does make a big difference.