As long as you get Warhawk and Infamous (or Killzone if you're more into the military style FPS) it's worth it.
Poll: PS3 exclusive titles worth it?
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Fat Princess is a really fun game, as is Infamous, Little Big Planet and Resistance 2. I also hear that Warhawk is supposed to be pretty fun, but I have not played it yet.
I can't recommend MGS4 because I think it is ridiculously boring and far overrated, and I also cannot recommend Killzone 2. The controls are just so shoddy that they seriously break the game. If the developers would release a patch or something to fix the controls then I'd probably tell you to think about getting it, but as of now don't even consider it.
Oh yeah, and God of War III is coming out soon, so definatly get that if you do buy a PS3.
I can't recommend MGS4 because I think it is ridiculously boring and far overrated, and I also cannot recommend Killzone 2. The controls are just so shoddy that they seriously break the game. If the developers would release a patch or something to fix the controls then I'd probably tell you to think about getting it, but as of now don't even consider it.
Oh yeah, and God of War III is coming out soon, so definatly get that if you do buy a PS3.
My PSN account name is: TreblaineMazty said:
The same name as my XBLA login and my user name for this very site as well as for gametrailers.com and youtube.com, no one can deny this IS my PSN login and not anyone else's. In my Trophy list, please note down the time I achieved by 75'th knife kill, just after completing the 3rd of 9 levels, same with the 25th melee kill Trophy, only just after completing the 1st level. Also note I achieved the "killing spree" Trophy with knife-only, it is surprisingly easy to kill 5 of those dumb enemies in a row with the knife.
Now that is more than enough to prove my veracity, I am not going to waste my time and money renting Killzone 2 again, photographing the screen, transferring, uploading, vetting and labelling all the photos just to attempt to quell your paranoia when I know you are likely too arrogant/deluded/fanboish to even acknowledge them.
Plus I have no idea how to capture video of my knife kills (HD video capture equipment is pretty expensive and no offence but you're not worth it) but just search Youtube for it and you'll see loads of other people doing the same thing, it's not even particularly impressive, I'm just surprised you seem unable to do it yourself. Just try it, play Killzone 2 and next time the bad guys go to cover try using the knife. Pro-tip: use sprint... and think fast.
You also seem to be mixing up two very distinct things which are the UT3 engine and specific games that use it like Gears of War 1 and 2. It does not all boil down to the engine but experience of programmers on the hardware, while you compared MGS4 (2008) screen-shots with a bullshot of Gears of War 1 (yes, that pic is of GeoW 1, not 2, and from 2006, not 2008). I would also ask that you find screenshot actually from in-game, it is far too easy to do target-renders in cutscenes (i.e. deliberately render a model in more detail than gameplay since the cutscene is very controlled).
Lol how you say "chivalrously attacking a corporation" as if it is a pejorative. Do you even know what chivalry is?
I'm also not going to get a 1080p monitor when Wipeout HD is the only game in 1080p and isn't even in 1080p most of the time. My monitor is just fine, I got it over a year ago at less than that price (was that LG that cheap a year ago? I doubt it) and have been enjoying it in that time, getting my money's worth.
*Gasp* Horror, it must be an XBOT! What do you say Mazty? There is *NOOO* way he can have genuine criticism of MGS4 or Killzone 2 unless he is secretly in the pay of MICROSOFT!pieeater911 said:
Sure, he's also interested in Fat Princess and God of War 3 but that's *probably* just a cover. [/sarcasm]
Engine power is not measured by how much detail is represented in game, whatever you try and argue the Unreal Engine is certainly one of the best engines on the market - of that there is no question, it is by no means "weak", have you ever even used it?. The fact your arguing about consoles and engines is absoultly pathetic, especialy when the vast majority of what both of you have written is either pure bullshit or fanboy drivel, particularly you Mazty.Mazty said:
You said "why are you so viscously attacking a co-operation?", so I ask you: Why are you so viscously defending a freaking games console?
Your both wrong.
Are you serious?Zand88 said:
PS3 has:
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4
InFamous
Killzone 2
Flower
Pixel Junk Eden
Uncharted
Resistance Series
Heavy Rain
Fat Princess
God of War III
Super Stardust HD
Ratchet and Clank Series
Motorstorm Series
360 has:
Halo Series
Gears of War series
Geomoetry Wars
Fable II...
...if im missing any other major 360 exclusives, I would love to hear!
Simple, first I read your stupid argument and then I realized you were both fanboys and both wrong.Mazty said:
So let me get this straight, your using the Unreal ENGINE as an example of the XBOX 360...? How exactly does that work, I agree the PS3 is a powerful machine, more so than the 360 when utilized correctly but engines have nothing to do with it.
All I actually stated was that the Unreal Engine is not "weak" as you inaccurately called it so. You do realize the Unreal Engine is also on the PS3, right - its not representative of the Xbox in any way. It's just easier to use on the 360.
It would take to long, and I've seen your fanboy rants before, I'd rather not have to sit through all that again...but see above for a small example.
How is the MGS4 engine PS3 exclusive, chances are it'll be used on the upcoming MGS game that will also feature on the Xbox 360. Engines aren't exclusive to consoles and ultimately engines don't mean all that much - rather the artistic design. Is Gears of War 2 technically better than Uncharted, yes. Does it look as good? In most places no. Is that down to the engine - no.
I've actually already given my opinion on this topic, so I wasn't going to reply to post the same thing. I accidentally clicked your name instead of the topic below and stumbled across your rant.
What happens is you see someone say the 360 isn't gold perfection and go off on a bullsh*t rant.[/quote]
That's funny, I don't see the 360 mentioned at all in my post, but your fanboy mindset is attacking me and throwing around the term fanboy - yet you later claim not to insult or use subjective opinion....you've already done both.
Way to be a hypocrite...
When did I ever say it wasn't? Here we go again - you and your pathetic fanboy mindset...
Arguing on the internet about a games console, using subjective opinion and insults in your arguments - thats what your trying to stop? Maybe you should go re-read your own posts on this thread before trying to make that claim.
Well I'll just name those from the games I own (not counting those on your list, even though I do have them as well:Gondito said:
. Lost Odyssey
. Blue Dragon
. The Last Remnant (PS3 version was cancelled due to engine issues)
. Tales of Vesperia (US and Europe)
. Star Ocean : The Last Hope
. Infinite Undiscovery
. Mass Effect
. Too Human
. Left 4 Dead
. Shadow Complex
and from those I've pre-ordered;
. Mass Effect 2
. Splinter Cell : Conviction
. Magna Carta 2
. Left 4 Dead 2 (I think)
(You missed FF13vs., Grand Turismo and The Last Guardian on your PS3 list BTW)
- Now I know for a minute you honestly don't give a shit what I have written because your being a fanboy. No doubt you'll try and claim these games are not "major". Well here's the thing:
Games are subjective. I personally am an RPG fan, and so this kind of line-up will appeal to me personally. I'm not a huge action game fan, nor a driving game fan, so many of the games on your list won't appeal to me. And before you go on about some of these games (well, two of them) being available on the PC - how can you compare PC games and console games - your either looking at lists of exclusive console games or your not - as long as it on one particular console and not on the other two its an exclusive in my eyes.
Which is exactly why this kind of discussion cannot revolve around pointless lists of games. Don't turn it into something like that...
Just PM that username and I will reply. I'll even PM you if you are too shy. I will even friend you if necessary so you can view my trophies I earned in Killzone 2. And yeah, I have a crappy camera-phone which doesn't like to sync with my computer, so what.Mazty said:
Here is some noobs demonstrating how damn easy the knife rampages are are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44esiUh9TKc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39lmTBe2rFM
heh heh, Garza got a beat down.
I am not going to tell you what monitor I have nor what my Parent's HDTV is, I mean if you consider a £2000 HDTV as a recommended screen to appreciate the PS3 then you will just exploit my stating a totally modest screen or monitor as an excuse to dismiss everything I say with some elitist bullshit that "only the best is worthy of PS3" and come bullshit about contrast ratio.
Hold on, when you say things like:
"But I guess high school doesn't make you much money, so I can't imagine you would buy yourself a nice bluray collection."
Have you actually resorted to gloating about how much richer you are than me?
EDIT: I just PM'd you via PSN, you should get a message from me and a friend request. I told you I had a PS3.
Actually I do "give a shit". I'm a fan of RPG's too, and I can see many of the games on your list are rpgs, If you wanted to flame someone for not including the popular rpgs on the 360's list, you should have quoted the user I quoted, hes the one that ragged on "convoluted rpg's"D_987 said:
Im not a fanboy, I believe both systems have their positives and negatives, but I do believe the ps3 has more high quality exclusives. Perhaps I get a bit fanboyish when I see ignorant comments like the one from Zand88, "PS3 has literally only one or two, and 360 and PC have all the fun titles. But if you like convoluted RPGs and anime, PS3 might be for you."
I cant help but defend the injustice.
To mazty, the MGS4 engine will NOT be on MGR. They are downgrading the MGS4 engine to work on the Xbox and lower end PC's.
But to add to this flame war from hell their is no better console, only the console that best fits your wants and need of games and media. I never understood why people need to have the "best console". Now I like my PS3 more than my Xbox because to ME there are more games on it that I will like. Some one will say "I like more games on the Xbox so I favor the Xbox" whats wrong with that? To me many of the Xbox exclusives are flat and not that good, that can go the same for someone else on the PS3. Why is there a need to push your own standards on someone else?
Now on a technical standpoint the PS3 is the better console, that is just fact. Everything about the PS3 is just better, mainly because it had a whole year more of development time on it. The Xbox brakes a lot which is a turn off for me (broke 2 times for me) but some people can get passed that... somehow and enjoy it.
Oh and engines are exclusive to specific developers. UE has been sold to specific developers then they use it on games that may or may not be multi platform. So engines are only as exclusive as the developer that makes it.
But to add to this flame war from hell their is no better console, only the console that best fits your wants and need of games and media. I never understood why people need to have the "best console". Now I like my PS3 more than my Xbox because to ME there are more games on it that I will like. Some one will say "I like more games on the Xbox so I favor the Xbox" whats wrong with that? To me many of the Xbox exclusives are flat and not that good, that can go the same for someone else on the PS3. Why is there a need to push your own standards on someone else?
Now on a technical standpoint the PS3 is the better console, that is just fact. Everything about the PS3 is just better, mainly because it had a whole year more of development time on it. The Xbox brakes a lot which is a turn off for me (broke 2 times for me) but some people can get passed that... somehow and enjoy it.
Oh and engines are exclusive to specific developers. UE has been sold to specific developers then they use it on games that may or may not be multi platform. So engines are only as exclusive as the developer that makes it.
You've shown this to be true? You've taken two screenshots and claimed that they alone represent the entire engine and used words such as "good" to describe lighting effects. Besides which the term "main exclusive" is completely inaccurate both from a subjective point of view and a sales point of view in that it's not the most played game on the Xbox, and its not the best selling game on the Xbox. I assume you already know that game is Halo 3.Mazty said:
As I stated previously the Unreal Engine is on the PS3 - its not exclusive at all - your comparing an exclusive engine possibly build specifically for one game or system - as you stated it has not yet been announced it will be used on Raiden. (I have no idea what engine MGS4 runs on nor do I care). Unfortunately you haven't actually produced any sources bar two pictures that you yourself analysed...
Your right that was a stupid way of putting what I was trying to say, but not for the reasons you come out with. What I was attempting to say was that art direction has a far greater role in graphics than the engine itself. You can have all the great lighting you want but without great art direction your game won't look visually appealing. Yes that was a poor point to make, and you are correct on this point.
As for my "defence" of the 360, I believe that's complete bullshit. Of course I type about the 360 and will reference its games because its the only games console I have. I don't quite understand how you expect me to discuss Playstation exclusives with the same enthusiasm because I know chances are I'll barely get to play the game. The same could be said of yourself. The difference is I have you seen you insult people for owning the console and have insulted the console itself on occasions. Hence you are a fanboy in my eyes.
Really, your using facts...? I don't think so.
You pretty much sum up my thoughts of yourself. I stated earlier the reason I didn't go into detail was because I've seen how you argue: you spend the vast majority of your argument insulting the other person / bullshitting and then attempt to take the high ground by claiming you don't. Its pathetic. I'm not going to bother replying any further because this whole thing is a waste of time - we both have opposite view-points. Unlike the "mature" (you seriously claim your mature...) person who would just keep bullshitting they're way through another pointless post whilst claiming their opinion is fact...
I just PM'd you via PSN, I recommend you watch your inbox for a message and friend invite from a certain fellow called Treblaine. That's me by the way. But what was that thing you were saying, with such certainty, that there is absolutely no chance I have a PS3?Mazty said:
You guessed wrong about my age. Also I can spell sceptical while you can't, so enough with the jabs about reading age.
While we're at it, the HDTV in question is a Samsung 30" HDTV with 1080p resolution, how bad can that be? Killzone is rendered in only 720p while MGS4 has a native resolution of only 1024x768. But it is trivial as we are comparing jpeg pictures of a resolution of barely even 200x300 and that is still adequate to compare the graphics as they are both down at the same level.
That link is not very helpful to me, I could not find any 1080p monitors for less than £300 when I got my monitor a little over a year ago now, a Benq if you must ask.
And enough with your pic demands, your paranoia is getting ridiculous.
I have both systems, and I thought that MGS 4, Resistance: Fall of Man, Resistance 2, Heavenly Sword, and Ratchet and Clank Futures were all pretty sweet. Infamous was amazing. Also, there's exclusive content for Batman Arkham Asylum, which I'm loving.
Killzone was enjoyable, but I don't see what all the accolades are about. I played Little Big Planet once and now it gathers dust.
There are some crappy ones I won't mention, but the 360 has those, too. There'll probably be more good exclusive stuff for both consoles once they start to reach an equal distribution in the market and really start competing with each other (if that happens, which I think it will once people realize a ps3 is now comparable to mid-range bluray players and only a few bucks more than its competitor).
All in all, I guess it depends on your financial situation. If $300 is a lot to you, then it's not worth it, because the vast majority of games are not exclusive to any particular console right now. Besides, if the current ones stand the test of time, the ps3 will be about $100 in three or four years and you can play them then.
Killzone was enjoyable, but I don't see what all the accolades are about. I played Little Big Planet once and now it gathers dust.
There are some crappy ones I won't mention, but the 360 has those, too. There'll probably be more good exclusive stuff for both consoles once they start to reach an equal distribution in the market and really start competing with each other (if that happens, which I think it will once people realize a ps3 is now comparable to mid-range bluray players and only a few bucks more than its competitor).
All in all, I guess it depends on your financial situation. If $300 is a lot to you, then it's not worth it, because the vast majority of games are not exclusive to any particular console right now. Besides, if the current ones stand the test of time, the ps3 will be about $100 in three or four years and you can play them then.