Poll: Public Execution

[bluepilot]

The committers of these terrible crimes, even if brutally executed in public, would be given more of a chance than they gave their victims. They deserve the worst. I personally think that murderers and rapist deserve horrible brutal punishments. In the baby P case, I personally thought that every one of them should have had EXACTLY the same injuries delievered to them that they inflicted on baby P...This is why I am not a laywer or a judge.

However, if society kills them in public, are we to call ourselves any better?

Thus lies the dilemma. It is the Batman-Joker dilemma, the Batman wants to kill the Joker, ans society would benefit from the Joker`s death, but doing so would lower him down to the Joker`s level.

However, society has gone from pulic execution to the other extreme. Criminals have too many rights and protection. We want to build a humane society, which means treating all humanly, regardless of circumstances.

This is why we now have rapists and murderers from the ages of 9 and younger.

So, to be honest, I would want public execution brought back, because I want so see criminals punished as they deserve and victims protected as they deserve, on the other hand, I do not want public execition brought back because it is a symbol of a barbaric society.

 

[SonicKoala]

I agree with the death penalty in certain situations. I think that there are people who are beyond any sort of rehabilitation, and nothing more than a drain on society. People who committed attrocities against humanity should not be kept in jail, or a mental asylum, or any place like that at the cost of others. In these situations, I believe execution is warranted.

 

[Nickolai77]

The death penalty does not reduce crime rates, i mean England had the death penalty right up until the 1960's- but crime still existed prior to this. The threat of death did not put off serial killers such as Jack the Ripper in the 1880's, nor did the sight of dead highwaymen in gibbets stop highway men robbing coaches. The death penalty is therefore pointless, and serves only as an act of vengence- which does not make the police any morally better than the murderer they are legally murdering.

A cheif concern amougst the pro-execution people is cost. Well, how about forced labour camps? A life spent in hard labour could pay for their upkeep, and possibly serve as a greater punihsment than death in the long run.

 

[nimbeljack]

I really have nothing to contribute to this thread, but I gotta say I am incredibly confused by the third option.

 

[CuddlyCombine]

The third option is hilarious: "Yes, but only if in private." Ah, yes, private executions; so public!

Anyway, no. If you support this, you support gladiatorial combat.

 

[nimbeljack]

The third option is hilarious: "Yes, but only if in private." Ah, yes, private executions; so public!

Anyway, no. If you support this, you support gladiatorial combat.

Hell yes, lets do this.

 

[ProjectileVomit]

While I support the death penalty, I find it disturbing that people actually want to witness real life execution. It's like watching snuff film live.

 

[WhiteTiger225]

Our ancestors used to exicute people publicaly for crime. It served as a warning as well as the ultimate detterent.

But here is my question to you: Should we still exicute people convicted of crimes like rape or murder? Like lets say the man had his trial and was found guilty. Instead of sending him to jail for a few years and try to "rehabilitate" him they would just exicute him.

Any thoughts to accompany your vote would be appreciated.

EDIT: When I mean "They would just execute him" I don't mean like they would take him out of the court house and into a noose, just that he would be executed instead of jail time.

Note: Edited the post to include a "Only if it is private option"

Our ancestors also used to shit and not wipe, our ancestors would eat undercooked meat, our ancestors would never be naked even in the privacy of their own home as it was improper. Our ancestors bathed once a month because they feared bathing to much would wash the good spirits from their body. Our ancestors would give children shots of alchohal because it made their cheeks rosey which was a sign of healthyness back then. Our ancestors would marry 11 year old girls to 42 year old men... Our Ancestors were fucking retarded...

 

[Scaredpanther0101]

The third option is hilarious: "Yes, but only if in private." Ah, yes, private executions; so public!

Anyway, no. If you support this, you support gladiatorial combat.

You have to admit Death row convicts fighting to the death in public would be damn fun to watch even more so if they were child molesters

 

[Biosophilogical]

Hurray time to state my opinion to a mass of people I will never meet (knowingly) and who probably don't really care about my opinion on the subject matter...YAY!!!

I think that everyone should get the chance to be rehabilitated (completely, like no urges to kill or anything ... well anything above the norm that is), but if they are a lost cause then shoot them in the face with a truck for all I care, it is probably better then letting them consume tax-payers money and then be released so that they can do it all over again.

 

[Smudge91]

Like i've said on the other death penality threads, i don't agree with the death penality because in my opinion its the easy way out. They don't have to feel remorse anymore because they are dead. Also there is a massive problem with the death penality. The person just killed may have been have been innocent and if its proved there innocent you can't exactly release them like you can in Jail. Also its not nice seeing someone hanged or having there head chopped off or even worse buring someone. And if the criminal is indubitably guilty and has no remorse well there are worse things to do to a human being than kill them tbh.

 

[Kurokami]

Our ancestors used to exicute people publicaly for crime. It served as a warning as well as the ultimate detterent.

But here is my question to you: Should we still exicute people convicted of crimes like rape or murder? Like lets say the man had his trial and was found guilty. Instead of sending him to jail for a few years and try to "rehabilitate" him they would just exicute him.

Any thoughts to accompany your vote would be appreciated.

EDIT: When I mean "They would just execute him" I don't mean like they would take him out of the court house and into a noose, just that he would be executed instead of jail time.

Note: Edited the post to include a "Only if it is private option"

Murder no, rape yes.

I somehow find rape to be a worse crime then murder.

 

[Captain Blackout]

It would make life more interesig..maybe less murders and rapes..that`s good, right?

Or..you could sell tickets end end the economic crisis ^^

BTW, this is how problems should be solved:

I think she might have ruined him. Is his neck still intact?

This really won't end well. Your poll and title deals with the issue of public executions, while your actual question deals with executing a person immediately instead of waiting a few years. Thus, this thread will be a jumbled mess that will ultimately descend into a flame war over whether or not execution is humane or not. So, either change your topic question/paragraph, or change your title and poll to match. If you stay on the topic of execution immediately instead of waiting, I'll give you a free gift.
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You'll need it.

This.

OP, your thread is going to go to shit in about five minutes.

I'll bet in six pages in something intelligent happened, justifying the whole endeavor. You party-poopers you!

 

[TotallyFake]

I wise quote indeed. And yes it is hipocritical. But it's like putting out a fire. If a man rapes and kills his girlfriend cause she dumped her, why should the government put thousands of dollars into giving this man free housing, food, water, and electricity for the next twenty years. Wasn't he the one in the wrong?

Except it actually costs the state less money to keep someone in jail than it does to execute them. So yeah...

Yeah...now, because we have to do everything humanly, wasting thousands of dollars on making a death poison, when we could really do something like this. As stated up a couple of posts.

"Before he was hung from the gallows high, he yelled pleas for mercy. They stopped after a short drop. And a sudden stop."

Quick, simple, cheap, and then the criminal is gone for good, and all it cost is about $25 for the rope.

You just don't get it do you? The death penalty is more expensive than life in prison. Not through the methods used, but because of the endless appeals and the difficulty in obtaining the death sentence. Understandably the courts want to double and triple check before killing someone.
Yet even with these precautions they still make mistakes. Excuting someone serves no purpose but to fulfill societies lust for revenge.

 

[TotallyFake]

No. The death penalty is wrong. Not only that but public executions seem to undermine the concept of dignity. I can just image people sitting around eating popcorn in lawn chairs as some poor schmuck gets executed.

Your talking about people that have raped and killed other human beings, a lot of men that get the death penalty have raped little girls and killed babies.
You think people like deserve any dignity?
You would protect these people?
Personally, I'd be in the front row sharing my popcorn with everyone else.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

Only a simple minded person would think that makes sense.
Someone takes my eye, I take there eye.
I'm pretty sure we each still have one eye.

Okay, now you're either being stupid or trolling. "eye for an eye leave everyone blind" doesn't actually have anything to do with eyes. It's a snappier way of saying "revenge for crimes makes everything worse" YOu can't argue against it with "at least you have another eye"

 

[DannyBoy451]

You know what? If you think justice if a bullshit concept then you obviously do not appreciate living in a free society, and I pity you for that.

That does not even make sense... You know that don't you? It is like trying to say if you do not like cheese or vote republican you do not appreciate living in a free society.
That is really just word salad meant to what? Mean something?
Anyway there is no such thing as a free society. Ever. We have laws that prevent shit so instantly your "free" society is proven false. But it is just one of those catch phrases that people like to spread around as if it actually means something like americans with all their freedoms which most other civilised countries have plus more that yanks do not have.

It does make sense, you just dont get it.

Look, if you really don't understand how the society you live in is at least comparatively free, with a judicial system that at least cares about bulslhit concept like justice, then how about you take a look at one that is far less free, and see how you like it.

 

[Stalk3rchief]

No. The death penalty is wrong. Not only that but public executions seem to undermine the concept of dignity. I can just image people sitting around eating popcorn in lawn chairs as some poor schmuck gets executed.

Your talking about people that have raped and killed other human beings, a lot of men that get the death penalty have raped little girls and killed babies.
You think people like deserve any dignity?
You would protect these people?
Personally, I'd be in the front row sharing my popcorn with everyone else.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

Only a simple minded person would think that makes sense.
Someone takes my eye, I take there eye.
I'm pretty sure we each still have one eye.

Okay, now you're either being stupid or trolling. "eye for an eye leave everyone blind" doesn't actually have anything to do with eyes. It's a snappier way of saying "revenge for crimes makes everything worse" YOu can't argue against it with "at least you have another eye"

I love how when people quote someone for the sole purpose of insulting them, they only quote a very small part of what they actually said.
I was being a smart ass you damn prick.
Your not some supreme intellectual or anything, I get the symbolism behind what eh said.
Punishing people for doing something bad is wrong...so we should let them get away with it?
Damn, now that's a saying that makes sense.

 

[Eddy136]

I always thought all that stuff about gaming messing people up was a load of rubbish made up by people who've never held a controller in their life.

After reading through this thread, I'm not so sure they're wrong anymore.

To the 'for the greater good' people, that's been the cry of more or less every modern-day dictatorial regime.

 

[ParkourMcGhee]

What happens if the legal system is wrong? It's a small chance, but a chance nonetheless and since there's a large amount of people/cases it's bound to happen.

What do you tell their families then? Sorry we got it wrong? That doesn't work. You can jail people and release them - yeah they'll be pissed, but if you kill them, you can't go back on that.

 

[Ignignokt]

I actually want to see a persons last seconds of life. The soul leave the face, I have a weird fascination with it.

inb4theemo

I seriously wonder if someone should be alerted about this guy.