I answered "Yes", but I think it should be based upon the severity of the crime... Public executions could be for the heavy ones, or maybe when the crime rate gets out of hand. Somtimes people need an example.
Well, taking the assumption further and ruling out all possibility of parole and escape, there is still the argument that holding a prisoner for life is an unfair burden on the tax payer. And since there is no perfect system of justice or imprisonment, the point is moot.PiCroft said:A point: lets ignore the possibility of an innocent for now and imagine the person we have is the culprit.
Said culprit is helpless and harmless to the population at large, being in custody. How is killing this person protecting anyone, when they are no longer a threat?
In this case it would be the question of what do you think is of greater relevance; the possibility of innocents being killed, or a tax burden.OsirisArisen said:Well, taking the assumption further and ruling out all possibility of parole and escape, there is still the argument that holding a prisoner for life is an unfair burden on the tax payer. And since there is no perfect system of justice or imprisonment, the point is moot.PiCroft said:A point: lets ignore the possibility of an innocent for now and imagine the person we have is the culprit.
Said culprit is helpless and harmless to the population at large, being in custody. How is killing this person protecting anyone, when they are no longer a threat?
3)Of course they don't, that's facetious and you know it. But the murderers family are still, in fact, human beings, and its entirely possible that they arn't evil bastards. Regardless of if you feel that Capital Punishment is worthwhile, Public Executions would be absolute hell on the family of the person executed, above and beyond the strain already placed on them for having a family member executed. And that hell on a family would have absolutely no bearing on the victims family, unless the victims family enjoys to see other families suffer. So that counterpoint is entirely moot.TheGreatCoolEnergy said:Your first 2 points make good sense.Xanadu84 said:Even excluding the massive number of things that make Capital Punishment reprehensible, ineffective, costly, inhumane, and just plain dumb, Public executions will do 4 things. 1) Make Martyr 2) Tell the world that killing people is acceptable if you think you have a good reason. 3) Inhumane pain and suffering on the families of the executed 4) Be seen as a truly egregious miscarriage of justice when someone publicly executed is later exonerated.
3) Yes because the families of the raped/murder feel less pain than the family of the person who murdered somebody.
4) Yes and somebody who has been behind bars for 20 years exonerated is such an improvment.
It's confusing, the Escapist can sometimes be a very liberal place, but also draconian. I think a case study may be in order...brewbeard said:I'm surprised so many people are in favor of this.
Your talking about people that have raped and killed other human beings, a lot of men that get the death penalty have raped little girls and killed babies.Twilight_guy said:No. The death penalty is wrong. Not only that but public executions seem to undermine the concept of dignity. I can just image people sitting around eating popcorn in lawn chairs as some poor schmuck gets executed.
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.Stalk3rchief said:Your talking about people that have raped and killed other human beings, a lot of men that get the death penalty have raped little girls and killed babies.Twilight_guy said:No. The death penalty is wrong. Not only that but public executions seem to undermine the concept of dignity. I can just image people sitting around eating popcorn in lawn chairs as some poor schmuck gets executed.
You think people like deserve any dignity?
You would protect these people?
Personally, I'd be in the front row sharing my popcorn with everyone else.
Only a simple minded person would think that makes sense.Twilight_guy said:An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.Stalk3rchief said:Your talking about people that have raped and killed other human beings, a lot of men that get the death penalty have raped little girls and killed babies.Twilight_guy said:No. The death penalty is wrong. Not only that but public executions seem to undermine the concept of dignity. I can just image people sitting around eating popcorn in lawn chairs as some poor schmuck gets executed.
You think people like deserve any dignity?
You would protect these people?
Personally, I'd be in the front row sharing my popcorn with everyone else.
^ this is what Ive been saying for yearsMcface said:I wish it would.
A single bullet to the dome = about 25 cents.
Years and Years of keeping a convicted child rapist or murder = $232.7 million per year. (in ONE state!)
I think its pretty obvious.
Agreed on both. Revenge is a stupid thing to base your justice system on, and I can't possibly agree with you enough on our community. We claim to be mature and rational, but we go absolutely bloodthirsty on threads about certain crimes and the death penalty.The Infamous Scamola said:Oh god no. Please, not another one of these. We are not mature enough as a community to discuss certain topics apparently.
And my answer is: Hell Fucking No. In fact, it makes me think less of you as a person if you think we should do public executions. It means that you get a kick out of it and are no better than the person you're supposedly punishing.