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Fraught

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Ares Tyr, you seriously fail. Are you trying to make a point? Nobody, atleast as much as I have read, hasn't said anything about rappers' dumb pants, which are baggy/saggy, Soulja Boy's glasses, their "boomboxes" etc. Attacking metal because of what some bands wear is pure retarded. And it's all taste. You are the guardian of all things rap, while the other man is the guardian of metal. It's all about taste.
 
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I hate it when people say they hate rap because of Soulja Boy or Gangsta rap. It is narrow-minded. Nothing you can say afterwards will make you any less narrow-minded. If you just don't like rap, fine, I don't care, but when you say you hate rap for the mainstream shit, you are really retarded. When have mainstream ever picked anything good to exploit? And Soulja Boy: He was just a fad. Nobody listens to him anymore. He isn't a representation of Rap at all. Nobody is.
 
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Fraught post=18.71319.767247 said:
Ares Tyr, you seriously fail. Are you trying to make a point? Nobody, atleast as much as I have read, hasn't said anything about rappers' dumb pants, which are baggy/saggy, Soulja Boy's glasses, their "boomboxes" etc. Attacking metal because of what some bands wear is pure retarded. And it's all taste. You are the guardian of all things rap, while the other man is the guardian of metal. It's all about taste.
I hate double posting, but.....

You do realize he was making a point on how stupid his opponent's agrument was. He put negative (meaningless) stuff up.

And what do you mean "dumb pants"? Those are cool and so are boomboxes.
 

DJShire

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Most of the modern American mainstream rap sub-genres are garbage (crunk and snap in particular). As previously stated, the older stuff was good, but somewhere along the lines, it became about whats marketable and what makes the most money. While such a thing is understandable, much like pop music, it suddenly becomes quantity over quality, and the result is the horrid acts like Soulja Boi. Oddly enough, it seems that some modern American mainstream rap is taking a step backwards: many songs contain more electronic elements than before (so much so that the other day my neighbor, a 20 something black male, had his car stereo very high and his subwoofers turned all the way up, and I heard a song that had a sampling from a house song called "Destination Calabria", and that song is several years old), as if they're trying to go back to that "old school" sound of the 80s.

The non-USA scene is slightly better from what I have heard, though my experience with said scene is very limited.

The odd, more underground rap sub-genres such as Nerdcore are interesting, though I have little interest in such things, because while I am capable of relating on the topics presented in the music, I really don't want to hear people rap about it.
 

JakubK666

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Well, I tolerate/like Eminem but I do hate all of the "black" hiphop I've heard so far...so I suppose that makes me a racist.
 

guyy

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I will resist the urge to rant indefinitely on the boundless horror within the style of music known as "Rap." Someone already did that anyway.

I'll just say that I hate it completely, and nothing will ever, EVER, make me change my mind.
 

ReepNeep

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So you can't sing, can't play an instrument, have a fourth grade vocabulary and still want to be a musician? Have you ever considered Rap?
 

The Iron Ninja

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Darth Mobius post=18.71319.767788 said:
The Iron Ninja post=18.71319.727695 said:
I agree with most of what this man had to say (at least about Metalica), The problem is Ares Tyr that for every decent rap/hipity-hopity artist you can name, we (the fellows who don't like said types of music) can name ten bad ones.
I won't argue that Rock music has zero terrible bands, far from it. I just think the ratio of good bands to bad bands is much better for Rock music. Besides, half of the Rock's bad bands are in little sub genres of their own.

But yeah, today's Metal (on the whole) is pretty shit.
Except for that last line, I COMPLETELY disagree with. I find most modern metal to be crap, and few are the bands which have even ONE good song, much less enough to buy a WHOLE CD of their music. So I think it would be best to agree that we like our own particular Genre of music and dislike the other's choice. I won't label modern Metal as shit if you don't label Rap as Shit.
Modern Metal was one of those sub-genres I was talking about.
And Rap is shit.
 

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ReepNeep post=18.71319.767828 said:
So you can't sing, can't play an instrument, have a fourth grade vocabulary and still want to be a musician? Have you ever considered Rap?
I think you mean punk - Yay generalisation

There are a lot of rappers who can sing, have a backing band and have some pretty smart lyrics

I will once again plug Buck 65.. I urge you to look him up
 

Bulletinmybrain

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I might listen to rap one day when the double standard is uplifted. THE ONE WHITE GUY that is a successful rapper can not use the word that you know I am talking about. Yet the other can use it every other word. Eh, I guess white people get to say bad credit while black people get their one word advantage.(If you know what its from, That guy is hilarious:D.)
 

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Invader Ezri post=18.71319.719818 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.71319.719805 said:
Invader Ezri post=18.71319.719799 said:
I absolutely hate the stuff. I really do. Most of it has a vulgar or stereotypical theme to it, and sometimes I can't even understand the words.

Last rap song I listened to said something about a toaster...
Most of all music genres is awful. Its not fair to make generalizations about the music without shining a light on any of the positive examples of it as an art form.
I apologize for my ignorance. Let me try again. I guess someone somewhere must be able to express themselves intelligently through rap, although I can honestly say I've yet to hear them. I like music, I am a musician myself. Just not that particular genre, along with many others.
Saul Williams.

If you care enough, listen to the song Release by Blackalicious. its split into 3 parts and he has the middle one. Or you could just look up the words.

But yeah, i love a lot of hip-hop, mainly Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Lupe Fiasco, and Atmosphere. With the exception of De La, who are just kind of having fun and playing around, those groups make the more intelligent stuff. That's not to say that De La makes party rap, its just not lyrically trying to make something profound. Except for Eye Know, which is a very sweet song.
 

Zeke109

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ReepNeep post=18.71319.767828 said:
So you can't sing, can't play an instrument, have a fourth grade vocabulary and still want to be a musician? Have you ever considered Rap?
No, I haven't! Who are you Mr. Magic Man?