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Ares Tyr

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CrazyBerk post=18.71319.721967 said:
I like some of it. Mostly stuff by Eminem and Flobots but i only like the songs with a meaning not just "Oh i backhanded by ho and then rode around in my pimped out Civic!". Because the only reason that i like some rap is because it tells a beatiful story or gives a nice message and if it wasn't for that it's just a man shouting about hos and being a sexist bastard down a mic.
You know there's other rappers out there who aren't Eminem and Flobots who are just as good (and usually much better than Flobots, who suck). I mean, I don't hate Eminem or anything, but every white kid says "Eminem is the only rapper I listen to because he tells stories and doesn't do that gangster shit" when if they'd listen to half of his songs, he raps about gangster shit and murdering his ***** of a wife. People too often forget, even though Eminem is a beautiful aritst with some of his lyrics and songs, he is also a poor white guy from Detroit who grew up ghetto with gang affiliated friends.

Jay-Z is able to ride that line pretty well himself. He does alot of the booty bouncer lyrics, and he's known for that, but then he puts out records like "99 Problems" and "Can I Live" and shows that he's a beautiful artist despite him being a former crack dealer from Brooklyn. But alot of people who bang Eminem won't give Jay-Z the same respect because of his singles, and what I can only assume is his race.

I understand alot of white kids relate to Eminem because he is white himself, but if you like his music, then there are others alot like him with a similar message and style, the only difference being their being black or of another race.

I dunno, that's just been something I've noticed for a long time and its been on my mind. White kids who only like Eminem...

(But then again you might not even be white, so maybe I'm being presumptuous.)
 

Arntor

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They probably have an irrational fear of big muscular black men knocking down their doors if they're caught listening to DMX.
 

Ares Tyr

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Eggo post=18.71319.722032 said:
What about white kids who only like boring nerd rap? :p
Like Weird Al?

I die a little everytime someone says they liked "White And Nerdy".
 

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Music is music.

I don't care who made the sound or why... if it works and I like, I like it. The genrefication of music as a whole is a marketing device and it's sad to see people preemptively disregard the work of others due to these arbitrary and typically incorrect labels.
 

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PurpleRain post=18.71319.720190 said:
I didn't vote at all, because none of those options apply to me. Some rap is good and clever like any style or genre of music. I don't like 'gangsta' rap talking about bitchez and hoes and who's whos dog. I like one's that make me think like Scrubilos(?) Pip or decent ryhming sweet sounding songs like Buck 65.
We have some rap senses in common.

I admit, I like Kanye West. Other than that, I like rappers who talk about real stuff.

Personal favorite: K-Os, Flobots, Gym Class heroes.
 

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The Sorrow post=18.71319.719677 said:
SOME rap is good, but these are few and far between. I have three rap songs on my iTunes:
Ride wit Me (Catchy tune, so sue me)
Oh No You Didn't (just plain awesome)
White and Nerdy (My theme song, unfortuanately)
...You had to use those as examples of good rap?

Hieroglyphics, Nas, Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco. These are my favourite artists, all rappers, so yeah, I like it. Their shit be dope, yo.
 

Ares Tyr

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TheBadass post=18.71319.722094 said:
The Sorrow post=18.71319.719677 said:
SOME rap is good, but these are few and far between. I have three rap songs on my iTunes:
Ride wit Me (Catchy tune, so sue me)
Oh No You Didn't (just plain awesome)
White and Nerdy (My theme song, unfortuanately)
...You had to use those as examples of good rap?

Hieroglyphics, Nas, Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco. These are my favourite artists, all rappers, so yeah, I like it. Their shit be dope, yo.
I love you.
 

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Ares Tyr post=18.71319.722110 said:
TheBadass post=18.71319.722094 said:
The Sorrow post=18.71319.719677 said:
SOME rap is good, but these are few and far between. I have three rap songs on my iTunes:
Ride wit Me (Catchy tune, so sue me)
Oh No You Didn't (just plain awesome)
White and Nerdy (My theme song, unfortuanately)
...You had to use those as examples of good rap?

Hieroglyphics, Nas, Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco. These are my favourite artists, all rappers, so yeah, I like it. Their shit be dope, yo.
I love you.
Lupe Fiasco is pretty much awesome.
 

Space Spoons

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I think I've said this before at some point, in some other thread... But it's a lot like other genres of music: There's good, and there's bad.
I'd listen to Duran Duran before I'd listen to Hannah Montana.
Following that same philosophy, I'd listen to J-Live or Arrested Development before I'd listen to Soulja Boy.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
 

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I never listened to a lot of rap, but that's because I heard a very small amount of it and absolutely hated it, so I just assume it's all crap. I know that it's stupid to form an opinion of something with so many different forms based on very few examples, but I refuse to change my opinion, because that would mean having to (shudder) listen to more of the stuff, which will never ever happen ever... ever. Also, don't bother recommending anything for me, because I think I made it clear that, no matter how great you claim it is, I'm not going to listen to it.
 

Ares Tyr

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L1250 post=18.71319.722132 said:
I never listened to a lot of rap, but that's because I heard a very small amount of it and absolutely hated it, so I just assume it's all crap. I know that it's stupid to form an opinion of something with so many different forms based on very few examples, but I refuse to change my opinion, because that would mean having to (shudder) listen to more of the stuff, which will never ever happen ever... ever. Also, don't bother recommending anything for me, because I think I made it clear that, no matter how great you claim it is, I'm not going to listen to it.
Close minded kid is close minded...

And Space Spoons, I'm glad I'm not the only person who knows how awesome J-Live is.
 

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poleboy post=18.71319.721888 said:
Gangsta rap really ruined it for me. While I actually think Body Count is kinda good, I hate what they did to the genre as a whole. A lot of the rap made after that - mainstream or not - is trying to live up to what is basically loser ideals and a lot of stupid kids imitate it.
What I hate is when the rap community tries to tell eloquent, sophisticated, cosmopolitan African-Americans that "they ain't black" because they don't choose to buy into the concepts of dressing in jeans and jerseys, wearing chains, and not choosing to talk in "jive".
 

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Faded gamer post=18.71319.722502 said:
RAP SUCKS BALLS,its just retards doing the retard hand thing and just cursing all the damn time.
METAL SUCKS BALLS, it's just retards doing the retard hand thing and just screaming all the damn time.

See what I did there?
 

Trace2010

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Just a question: Under your stated point observations then, is Barack Obama actually part of black culture? Is Rev. Jesse Jackson actually part of "black culture"?
 

Trace2010

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Sorry Eggo,

I hate when one subset of a race tries to exile people of the same race just because they have found ways to "Better (depends on how you look at it, I know)" themselves within the society that they are in.

It would be like saying that if "Because I do not self identify as a redneck or a hick, then I am enculturated in (insert race here) and not part of white culture"......