Poll: Rap Music

[Trace2010]

That type of extradition does not make any sense to me.

 

[Syntax Error]

Underground and older Hip Hop is more populated with talented artists that the mainstream, however. Del The Funky Homosapien, Hieroglyphics, Souls of Mischief, Wu-Tang Clan, Binary Star, Aesop Rock, Murs, MF Doom, KRS-One, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Craig Mack, Tupac Shakur, Notorious B.I.G., and Big L are just a few of the many very talented MCs in underground and golden age hip hop. And its about all I listen to within the genre now-a-days.

It's official: mainstream popularity really does kill off creativity.

 

[DARKLARK]

I dont like it. But my racist comment would have been towards white people who think they are from the streets cuz they listen to lil wayne. I do however like the beats if they cut out the lyrics about macin hoes and shooting people for wearing the wrong color and actually rhymed like rap is supposed to do, it might be decent.

 

[Arntor]

screw you.metal is THE SHIT.so you can cram it.

See, that's what I felt like saying to you when you make unfounded generalisations. Now you know how that feels.

Don't like it? Good, it's not your cup of tea, but don't even try to tell anyone what it is, because you're not an authority on the subject.

 

[zen5887]

Buck 65

 

[Trace2010]

Sorry Eggo,

I hate when one subset of a race tries to exile people of the same race just because they have found ways to "Better (depends on how you look at it, I know)" themselves within the society that they are in.

It would be like saying that if "Because I do not self identify as a redneck or a hick, then I am enculturated in (insert race here) and not part of white culture"......

It's not a matter of them being exiled for "bettering themselves;" it's the matter that they aren't considered part of black culture because the only way they view betterment is only by embracing and perpetuating the white upper-middle class hegemony in the West.

It seems you view it that way too.

I don't propose to say Bill Cosby is necessarily "better than" Snoop Dogg (both have made money and provided for their families on opposite sides of the spectrum) but the people who get messed over are the people in the middle class (and lower income trying to break into that middle class), being labeled as "race traitors" or "uncle Toms" for simply finding a better life in mainstream American society, and achieving that which the Civil War and the Civil Rights movement was really fought for, INTEGRATION into white society by black culture on equal terms.

 

[Shivari]

screw you.metal is THE SHIT.so you can cram it.

You seem like a joy to be around.

 

[KaZZaP]

it can be ok to blaze to but really I cant apreciate it becasue it takes so much less skill to make then real music

 

[Aries_Split]

Rap is good.


Gansta Rappers such as Soulja Boy need to be dragged into a corner and beat mercilessly until the only semblance of life in them is spastic twitching and the dribble of blood running out of their eyes.

 

[Mistah Kurtz]

When individual rights have been equalized and social issues have been settled, why should black culture have to be integrated into white culture? If it is true what you're saying about black culture, then middle class/lower-middle class blacks have nothing to worry about being labeled as "race traitors" since black culture is irrelevant to their whiter and better way of life.

Why can't white culture integrate itself into black culture instead? Even more importantly, why can't all these cultures co-exist seamlessly for individuals and social groups?

Why does the better way of life in America have to be a white middle class way of life? Why is a perpetual monocultural hegemony considered a good thing in this age of globalism?

Because that's an inevitability of multiculturalism. Everything integrates - bad and good.

Edit: And to your last comment - a 'white middle class' (I don't know why you felt the need to use the word 'white' but whatever) is considered a good thing because it is a good thing. It's a better way of life then a lower class way of life by definition. Middle is better than lower. (That isn't to say the PEOPLE are better, but they maintain a higher standard of living)

 

[Mistah Kurtz]

Sorry Eggo,

I hate when one subset of a race tries to exile people of the same race just because they have found ways to "Better (depends on how you look at it, I know)" themselves within the society that they are in.

It would be like saying that if "Because I do not self identify as a redneck or a hick, then I am enculturated in (insert race here) and not part of white culture"......

It's not a matter of them being exiled for "bettering themselves;" it's the matter that they aren't considered part of black culture because the only way they view betterment is only by embracing and perpetuating the white upper-middle class hegemony in the West.

It seems you view it that way too.

I don't propose to say Bill Cosby is necessarily "better than" Snoop Dogg (both have made money and provided for their families on opposite sides of the spectrum) but the people who get messed over are the people in the middle class (and lower income trying to break into that middle class), being labeled as "race traitors" or "uncle Toms" for simply finding a better life in mainstream American society, and achieving that which the Civil War and the Civil Rights movement was really fought for, INTEGRATION into white society by black culture on equal terms.

You don't propose to say that a brilliant family friendly comedian who speaks out for the betterment of blacks is better than snoop dog, a FORMER CRIP and a man who glorifies and helps perpetuate a sick culture which advocates the very lifestyles that are destroying the black community? Give me a break man.

 

[electric discordian]

I am of the opinion that rap is one of the hardest genres to actually get right, yeah I dont like modern stuff. You can tick all the boxes of hippity hoppity music and still get it hugely wrong.

Comparing Soulja boy to Ice T is like comparing a shite sandwhich to steak tar tar I wouldnt normally eat either but I can at least understand people appreciating the taste of the steak.

 

[Trace2010]

When individual rights have been equalized and social issues have been settled, why should black culture have to be integrated into white culture? If it is true what you're saying about black culture, then middle class/lower-middle class blacks have nothing to worry about being labeled as "race traitors" since black culture is irrelevant to their whiter and better way of life.

Why can't white culture integrate itself into black culture instead? Even more importantly, why can't all these cultures co-exist seamlessly for individuals and social groups?

Why does the better way of life in America have to be a white middle class way of life? Why is a perpetual monocultural hegemony considered a good thing in this age of globalism?

I understand your argument, I will agree with it: that was the overall goal of the revisions done to the Constitution during Reconstruction....but human nature is a *****, and will turn any bright ideal on its side at the drop of a hat. People can reflect on the past for strength and direction, and can envision and work toward a better world in the future...but life has to be lived in the present, and dismissing people who are going out and making the best out of the situations they are in only further ostracizes them from their culture, their roots, the very things you are for in your passage.

 

[Arntor]

it can be ok to blaze to but really I cant apreciate it becasue it takes so much less skill to make then real music

What is "real" music? Each genre of music has its own structure and creation methods, but it is up to individual artists to apply their own skill to it. Skill is not determined by genre, but the amount of effort an artist puts into his or her work. The differences in skill is between the artists, not the genre.

 

[Aries_Split]

Why can't white culture integrate itself into black culture instead? Even more importantly, why can't all these cultures co-exist seamlessly for individuals and social groups?

I was walking out of a Mexican Restraunt I enjoy, when some stupid teen that looked around 16 years old called me a taco bender. I laughed, threw a rock at his bike wheel, walked over to where he'd fallen, and dropped my taco on him.

As long as parents raise children like that, cultures can never co exist.

 

[Mistah Kurtz]

You don't propose to say that a brilliant family friendly comedian who speaks out for the betterment of blacks is better than snoop dog, a FORMER CRIP and a man who glorifies and helps perpetuate a sick culture which advocates the very lifestyles that are destroying the black community? Give me a break man.

No, but it certainly shows your simplistic thinking on the topic if you think one can be better or worse than the other.

But that's to be expected.

You're right, it was simplistic of me to think that we could compare people based on their personal merits and contributions to/destruction of society. Silly me. I forgot that gang members were morally superior to comedians.