Poll: Rape vs Murder, a different perspective.

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CargoHold

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I think that rape is worse than murder, because to be honest, I'm terrified of being raped. I'm strong-willed and independent, and I know that being completely dominated and overpowered like that would break me psychologically. I'd probably kill myself- and I'd rather die as the victim so that my friends/family have someone to blame than do it myself and hurt my friends/family more.

For people who could move on from it, well, murder might be worse?
 

Lullabye

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CargoHold said:
I think that rape is worse than murder, because to be honest, I'm terrified of being raped. I'm strong-willed and independent, and I know that being completely dominated and overpowered like that would break me psychologically. I'd probably kill myself- and I'd rather die as the victim so that my friends/family have someone to blame than do it myself and hurt my friends/family more.

For people who could move on from it, well, murder might be worse?
umm....so are you saying death is worse or rape is worse?
 

JourneyThroughHell

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Would definitely call the police and try to ground the rapist. I mean, I'm definitely not a saint but if I will do nothing, it will haunt me for the rest of my life.
 

Lullabye

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Personally, i think death kinda hits higher on the no no scale as far as living is concerned. I f you can't deal with being raped then(i know this sounds mean but its true) you are not a very strong person psychologically speaking. I mean, real, the worst tat could happen after rape is the person killing themselves so......No i've never technically be raped but ive had my share of what normal peopl would call traumatic experiences. Yet ive dealt with them. I know how it makes me feel, and so far the only thing i dont think i could deal with is...well..dying.
 

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Adaephon Delat said:
I would just call out to him. They're not going to continue raping someone if they know I'm right there phoning the police. When they come after me, the victim can run for it, and so can I.
This.

I may not be the world's best fighter...but fuck all I'll give the rapist a cookie and a beer if they can run as fast as I can.

I'd call the police, tell the asshole I'm calling the police, and then if they came at me with the knife I'd show them just how fast a pansy can flee.

Naheal said:
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Brockyman said:
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Im the only one so far that would let them get raped... am I a bad person?
Yep
Really, explain why im a bad person for not wanting to confront an armed attacker?
Legally, you'd be charged with accessory to rape.

Aren't crimes by omission fun?
The humor being that every business that exists (basically) in the US will fire you if you get in between a criminal and their crime while working.

Because most people realize that not stopping a murder because you may also be murdered is not the same as murdering.

"Some omissions are crimes" would be a more acceptable view to me. IT is unreasonable to demand someone risk their life to save another, we don't exactly have extra quarters for this game.

That said, I'd have a whole lot of trouble just letting it happen. If I did it would be out of complete fear (not manly enough to not admit that ;)).

WrathofthePenguin said:
Personally I think anyone who would put personal safety above the right thing to do is a little too into themselves
How would you sleep at night knowing you could have done something to prevent a horrible crime and didn't?
Also, rape's probably worse though murder is a little more abrupt. Where murder is an end to all things it doesn't really cause that much anguish to the victim. They're dead what difference does it make. A rape has further reaching consequences simply because the person is still alive to deal with it.
My opinion any ways
You wouldn't exactly sleep too well if you were dead either (all jokes aside to death being like sleep). It isn't about being too into oneself it is about the natural desire to survive. Something that basically all animals (which includes humans) are inclined to. Basically if you don't have the desire to live why live at all?

Course I see your point of completely ignoring the crime, but to demand that someone put themselves into danger, to possibly be in a vegetative state because of knife wounds to the spine or brain, because of 'valor' or some other nonsensical fairytale concept is a little disturbing to me.

Nobody should ever be raped, nobody should ever be murdered, but on that same token nobody should be expected to sacrifice themselves to stop these things. We should instead examine the issues and find ways to actually reduce the levels of crimes to their lowest.
 

SomethingUnrelated

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Rape is bad because the rapist has scarred the victim for life, and has ruined them. Murder tears families apart. Both are equally bad.
 

Naheal

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Reuq said:
Naheal said:
Reuq said:
Really, explain why im a bad person for not wanting to confront an armed attacker?
Legally, you'd be charged with accessory to rape.

Aren't crimes by omission fun?
I didn't say that I wouldn't call the police, just that I wouldn't fight a man with a knife... and nor would most sane people that arn't just talking about it.
You'd have a hard time proving that you couldn't do more in court and an upset victim is a tough one to beat back. Which would still make you guilty of a crime by omission.
 

Naheal

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Reuq said:
Naheal said:
Reuq said:
Naheal said:
Reuq said:
Really, explain why im a bad person for not wanting to confront an armed attacker?
Legally, you'd be charged with accessory to rape.

Aren't crimes by omission fun?
I didn't say that I wouldn't call the police, just that I wouldn't fight a man with a knife... and nor would most sane people that arn't just talking about it.
You'd have a hard time proving that you couldn't do more in court and an upset victim is a tough one to beat back. Which would still make you guilty of a crime by omission.
What so the court would expect me to fight them, maby if they were raping a friend. Im not a very nice person what can I say.
If you're capable of fighting them, then yes. Sucks in your eyes, but that's how the law works.
 

Naheal

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Reuq said:
Naheal said:
Yeah im sure that they would expect me to fight them...

Out of interest did you hear about a rape happening in central park New York, a woman was screaming, twenty people heard her and not one phoned the police, they all thought somebody else would. Sad isnt it.
I never once said that it would be likely, just that the legal side of it said that you had to.
 

CargoHold

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Lullabye said:
CargoHold said:
I think that rape is worse than murder, because to be honest, I'm terrified of being raped. I'm strong-willed and independent, and I know that being completely dominated and overpowered like that would break me psychologically. I'd probably kill myself- and I'd rather die as the victim so that my friends/family have someone to blame than do it myself and hurt my friends/family more.

For people who could move on from it, well, murder might be worse?
umm....so are you saying death is worse or rape is worse?
Well, and I hate how most things come down to this, I think it's relative. For me, rape's worse- for others murder is. But that's working solely on the outcome. In terms of motive, rape is much worse. The incentive for murder is usually to just have them not exist anymore, the incentive for rape is to torture someone.