Poll: Rape vs Murder, a different perspective.

[Brockyman]

Well, in the U.S. and "ordinary" person may have a gun. In this situation the 2nd Amendment looks like a good idea, so I'd shoot the rapist scum in the head.

Even without the gun, call police from cell, grab the biggest object I can wield, and kick his ass.

If that's your solution despite already having the rapist by your mercy, I'd say it's a situation where 2nd Amendment is at best neutral.

You do not have the right to execute people after civil arresting them. You wait for the police to take him into custody.

Besides, a clean shot in the head is an awfully pathetic attempt at revenge.

Yeah, b/c the RAPIST deserves the best live has to offer. Maybe I should buy him a nice meal and talk about his feelings, find out why he wants to rape woman, then let him go after his tearful apology...

I wouldn't civil arrest him, I'd SHOOT HIM. Any warning could cause him to harm the hostage before I can get a clean shot.

And a clean shot to the head to a fuckin' rapist is a beautiful thing.

First of all, you cause both a huge risk and a trauma for the woman by shooting the man while he's in very close proximity to her.

And if he's not that close to her you can easily keep the situation under control without shooting him anyway.

Secondly, you do realize that we have a justice system for a reason? It's so that gun toting testosterone ridden morons don't get to shoot anything they deem criminal enough passing for the law.

Thirdly, who the fuck said anything about forgiving or understanding the guy? He deserves his punishment, while a bullet to the brain is just a release.

First, if you know HOW to shoot, it's a calculated risk, but better then doing nothing. Announcing that you're there would be an even worse move, b/c he can get close and hold her to the point it would be extremely risky to shoot.

Secondly, yes, I realize we have a justice system and it plays an important role. Nor am I endorsing good ole' boy vigilante justice, but there are some situations where deadly force is a good idea.
EXAMPLE: Someone breaks into my home, I'm shooting them. They threatened my life, my family's lives and my property, and I don't want to risk my family by just staying "freeze" and hope he doesn't have a gun too. They may have broke in to steal money and electronics and not even touch my family, but I really don't care. They took the risk of entering my home to do me harm, and I'm not giving them the chance to do it.
I don't want a "Judge Dredd" society, but a person wanting to save a girl from one of the worst experiences imaginable wouldn't make them a "testosterone ridden moron".

Thirdly, I guess you don't believe in the death penalty... and I guess that's fair, but if the death penalty is ok, either me putting a bullet in his brain, or the government putting a needle in his arm after 30 years still results in his death, but I saved the goverment 30 years of costly hearings and trauma to the victim. If your anti-death penalty then we disagree respectfully.

 

[Doug]

Call the cops, grab any hard or sharp object, sneak close and annihilate the rapist.

Edit: Wait, that would be another traumatic event for the rapist's victim!
Damnit.

Actually, it'd be the same traumatic event, but I'd imagine she would be able to recover abit easier from that than from the rape; and if not, at least the rapist wouldn't be able to rape anyone else, and so the net effect would be fewer women traumatized.

Watching someone get horribly mutilated is (I think) at least as shocking as getting raped.
And of course, I'm just kidding with the annihilation.
But I'd still try to help her flee.

Well, feel free to try with the annihilation, heh; rapists and murders deserve little else (though murder has a few cases of exception, of course, like self defense, defense of others, defense of property, etc, etc. And a few cases would probably deserve less than a lethal sentence, like consented mercy killings).

 

[Axeli]

No, I would call the police first as long as I had a phone with me. And I have no doubt that if the confrontation turned into a fight, I would get my ass totally kicked. I weight a little under 60 kilos, don't work out and have absolutely no experience in fighting.

So if the rapist didn't simply get the hell out in the fear of getting arrested (which, as I've said, the most likely scenario) I'd be screwed.

 

[lwm3398]

BUZZER.

I always carry weapons. No exceptions.

My teeth and nails.

But, really, rape is worse. You're forced to live with that mental burden. Killed is just, bang, dead.

But I say both rapists and murderers get the chair. But since the chair's expensive, how bout we just shoot em' or hang em'. Hell yeah.

 

[Shock and Awe]

Try to sneak close(im assuming its dark) and grab him from behind.

Risky? Maybe. Right? Yes.

 

[annoyinglizardvoice]

All evil requires is good to do nothing.
Can't remember where I heard this, but it sums up my feelings fairly well.

I do see rape as being worse, not because of the effect, but because of the motive. Murders can have justifiable (or at least relatable) reasons.

 

[Axeli]

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First, if you know HOW to shoot, it's a calculated risk, but better then doing nothing. Announcing that you're there would be an even worse move, b/c he can get close and hold her to the point it would be extremely risky to shoot.

Secondly, yes, I realize we have a justice system and it plays an important role. Nor am I endorsing good ole' boy vigilante justice, but there are some situations where deadly force is a good idea.
EXAMPLE: Someone breaks into my home, I'm shooting them. They threatened my life, my family's lives and my property, and I don't want to risk my family by just staying "freeze" and hope he doesn't have a gun too. They may have broke in to steal money and electronics and not even touch my family, but I really don't care. They took the risk of entering my home to do me harm, and I'm not giving them the chance to do it.
I don't want a "Judge Dredd" society, but a person wanting to save a girl from one of the worst experiences imaginable wouldn't make them a "testosterone ridden moron".

Thirdly, I guess you don't believe in the death penalty... and I guess that's fair, but if the death penalty is ok, either me putting a bullet in his brain, or the government putting a needle in his arm after 30 years still results in his death, but I saved the goverment 30 years of costly hearings and trauma to the victim. If your anti-death penalty then we disagree respectfully.

It doesn't matter how good a shot you are. In a rape situation the victim and the rapist would very close and likely moving a lot. There's no safe way to shoot him in that situation. There's much less risk in simply assuming that he'll run or even giving him his hostage situation. It's much more unlikely he would kill her with the knife with police soon surrounding him.

And if he's not already close to her, you can take aim, then announce yourself, and only shoot if he tries to pull off something. Anything else is just giving yourself an excuse to shoot a bad guy for once in your life.

 

[Madkipz]

the only 99% safe shot would be to not shoot at all. Rather slit his entire head off with a machete like rambo.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Walk tall and carry a big stick, failing that thrown bricks work quite well.

Condemned 2 taught bum combat to the masses, take up a weapon you can toss and then one you can swing.. Toss the one you can throw the fastest that would cause the most damage, then proceed to beat them down with the stick. Knifes ain't got shit on bricks being shat out at you from 15-20 feet away.

Double points if you cause brain damage while they run their pussy ass away.

 

[jonnosferatu]

Very limiting options. Where's the "call the police and then cautiously interfere" choice?

This is probably an american poll where your either one extreme or the other so <,< ther is no middleroad.

No need to stereotype.

 

[Julianking93]

Since I [i/]do[/i] know martial arts, I'd go for it. I'd kill that piece of shit.

But, if I didn't, and I was just an average guy...I'd still go for it. It'd at least give them enough time to get away.

 

[MrFluffy-X]

Escapist ban me for joking about rape while allowing jokes about murder to go on, in the same thread!

 

[Origin Of Resistance]

I thought Vs. threads were frowned upon.

OT: Murder. With rape, you can recover (sure with trauma, but hey, you're alive at least.) However, with murder, there is no respawns IRL.

 

[enzilewulf]

well i would try to save them, if im gonna die might as well go out with a bang, right? so i would prolly try stealth and walk up behind the guy and try to grab his hand and twist it so it broke, grab the knife once it fell, kick his feet out from under him and take the knife and hold it to his neck till who ever was getting rapped regained senses and helped, i mean it has a good chance of working, as long as you exicute it right. that or stalk the person who is rapping and update the cops where he is taking her.

 

[Slayer_2]

Listen up fucktard, when you have someone you care about crying and wishing they were dead from something so horrible they can't sleep, eat, or function, then you can talk. Until then, shut the fuck up!

Would you rather have that person murdered? At least they can recover from rape, you don't come back from death.

 

[Slayer_2]

Without touching the logic failure in this argument; You do realize that it still means you have suffer through the rape, and that even if you feel like killing yourself afterwards, suicide really isn't as easy path as movies would like you think?

What logic failure? Maybe an emotional failure, but logically it makes far more sense then your argument. What movie involves suicide? I have no idea what kind of shows you watch, but I have never seen a single TV show or movie where you watch someone take their own life. Such a controversial subject would not be smiled upon by the rating boards. You do realize that death isn't all fun 'n games, right? Rape is terrible, but I'd far rather that then death. A death which would unlikely be quick and easy.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Look around for the nearest convenient blunt object to smash the guy upside the head with. Preferably a nice solid piece of wood or a pipe.
I say rape is worse. The victim has to live with the scars both physical and mental (ie trauma) of the event afterwards. The mental variety I'm given to understand never heal. Murder on the other hand, the victim only suffers temporarily depending on the killer's method of execution. Not that I mean to trivialize murder, I just think rape is worse because because the victim suffers a hell of a lot more. In murder, the victim's suffering only lasts until the time of death.

 

[Darkrain11]

Get the jump on the rapist punk and stomp his face until he doesn't move.... Wow, that was a little brutal of me.

 

[theCMNDER]

There are simply too many people to reply to! But many of you are raising points on ways to stop him, but thats not what the point of my question was. I wanted people to consider whether they really do believe rape is worse than murder (or vice-versa). Would you be willing to suffer through one, to save another from the other?

 

[RaNDM G]

I'd find something to beat him to death with, and if I couldn't I'd go ahead and run at him. Even if I get killed, I'd be buying some time for the girl to escape.