Poll: Rape vs Murder, a different perspective.

[wordsmith]

This isn't a question "which is worse", this is a question "Would you be able to live with the knowledge that someone got raped because of your inaction?"

 

[Gingerman]

If I was to be perfectly honest I'd phone the police then proceed to shout and throw things at the attacker, hopefully he'll be smart and run for it since I've put a spot light on him. If he chases me I'd leg it and hopefully lead him away.

In my personal opinion I'd rather be raped than murdered, it will take me years to get over the rape but it will take me a tad longer to get over my death.

 

[Axeli]

Well, in the U.S. and "ordinary" person may have a gun. In this situation the 2nd Amendment looks like a good idea, so I'd shoot the rapist scum in the head.

Even without the gun, call police from cell, grab the biggest object I can wield, and kick his ass.

If that's your solution despite already having the rapist by your mercy, I'd say it's a situation where 2nd Amendment is at best neutral.

You do not have the right to execute people after civil arresting them. You wait for the police to take him into custody.

Besides, a clean shot in the head is an awfully pathetic attempt at revenge.

Yeah, b/c the RAPIST deserves the best live has to offer. Maybe I should buy him a nice meal and talk about his feelings, find out why he wants to rape woman, then let him go after his tearful apology...

I wouldn't civil arrest him, I'd SHOOT HIM. Any warning could cause him to harm the hostage before I can get a clean shot.

And a clean shot to the head to a fuckin' rapist is a beautiful thing.

First of all, you cause both a huge risk and a trauma for the woman by shooting the man while he's in very close proximity to her.

And if he's not that close to her you can easily keep the situation under control without shooting him anyway.

Secondly, you do realize that we have a justice system for a reason? It's so that gun toting testosterone ridden morons don't get to shoot anything they deem criminal enough passing for the law.

Thirdly, who the fuck said anything about forgiving or understanding the guy? He deserves his punishment, while a bullet to the brain is just a release.

 

[Madkipz]

Surely just calling the police then walking up and saying "Hi! Are you really going to rape her while I'm standing right here? The police are on the way, by the way." would be enough to make him flee.

Or be so angry that he may murder you also? I wouldn't want to mess with someone who was doing something like that.

it ok, there isnt any reason to give him incentive to do so by walking up to him. Rather stay at a distance. Do notify him your there, if he dosnt run well. You can always precieve it as a rather dirty porno and have a go at the scene in your wet dreams. <,<

 

[BrainWalker]

Let me quote one of my favorite lines from anime.

"Kill you? No, I'm not going to kill you. After all, I can only torture you while you're still alive!"

It is pretty horrifying to me how many people in this thread can't seem to take the issue of rape seriously. Yes, you can continue to live after rape, but that doesn't mean it's easy. That is some seriously life-changing shit. Rape forces you to reevaluate your entire worldview; your opinion of both humanity, and yourself. I can't even imagine what it must be like, but I know it isn't a goddamned joke.

I hypothesize that everyone in this thread who made a comment mocking the question, suggesting that there is absolutely no comparison to be made between the severity of rape and murder is a man who has never had to seriously consider the threat of actually being a victim of rape.

I'm not saying that rape is worse than murder. I'm just saying the gap isn't as laughably wide as many people in this thread seem to believe.

Who ever said that rape is worse? Rape inconveniences you for a while and introduces psychological problems... murder introduces you to not being anymore. Ok, if we talk this completely insane psychos who rape, torture and hold captive a little girl for 25 years... there the line begins to blurr. But even then, the woman freed embrace life very easily afterwards.

Are you fucking serious? Did you seriously just say that a little girl who was tortured and, presumably, raped repeatedly in some psycho's basement for 25 years would "very easily" be able to "embrace life" once set free? I don't even know where to start with this. Psychology begs to differ.

 

[Jamous]

I vote murder's worse, though I really don't know what I'd do. Could you add unsure of what you'd do as an option?

 

[Actual]

Surely just calling the police then walking up and saying "Hi! Are you really going to rape her while I'm standing right here? The police are on the way, by the way." would be enough to make him flee.

Or be so angry that he may murder you also? I wouldn't want to mess with someone who was doing something like that.

Possible, but its safer than attacking him, he's almost guaranteed to try and kill me if I do that.
If he does try and kill me that's when I unleash my leet ninja running away skills on his sorry arse. It's not dignified but at least he's no longer raping the girl.

 

[Caliostro]

Consider yourself to be the average person, you aren't carrying weapons or anything to improvise as one, you do not know martial arts, attempting to save the person would be very risky.

A straight kick to the temple later I assure you his knife won't do him a whole lot of good. Rapists generally aren't very aware of their surroundings.


Imagining that I am incapable of it, or if you're a very feeble person. Grab a baseball bat,stick, a rock, a lead pipe...anything. The sheer weight of a blunt object being driven into a person's head with an overhead swing from behind, no matter how weak you are, will at the very least greatly disorient him. If you're an averagely strong person you're very capable of killing him with a single well placed blow with an heavy and blunt object. Do so. I personally have a baseball bat, and would totally go for a homerun.

 

[Jamous]

Well, in the U.S. and "ordinary" person may have a gun. In this situation the 2nd Amendment looks like a good idea, so I'd shoot the rapist scum in the head.

Even without the gun, call police from cell, grab the biggest object I can wield, and kick his ass.

If that's your solution despite already having the rapist by your mercy, I'd say it's a situation where 2nd Amendment is at best neutral.

You do not have the right to execute people after civil arresting them. You wait for the police to take him into custody.

Besides, a clean shot in the head is an awfully pathetic attempt at revenge.

Yeah, b/c the RAPIST deserves the best live has to offer. Maybe I should buy him a nice meal and talk about his feelings, find out why he wants to rape woman, then let him go after his tearful apology...

I wouldn't civil arrest him, I'd SHOOT HIM. Any warning could cause him to harm the hostage before I can get a clean shot.

And a clean shot to the head to a fuckin' rapist is a beautiful thing.

First of all, you cause both a huge risk and a trauma for the woman by shooting the man while he's in very close proximity to her.

And if he's not that close to her you can easily keep the situation under control without shooting him anyway.

Secondly, you do realize that we have a justice system for a reason? It's so that gun toting testosterone ridden morons don't get to shoot anything they deem criminal enough passing for the law.

Thirdly, who the fuck said anything about forgiving or understanding the guy? He deserves his punishment, while a bullet to the brain is just a release.

Very well put Axeli. Very well put.

 

[Axeli]

Im the only one so far that would let them get raped... am I a bad person?

Yep

Really, explain why im a bad person for not wanting to confront an armed attacker?

Well, who can live with themselves after knowing someone got raped right under your nose because your inaction, or because you decided to just walk away in order to avoid risking your own hide?

Especially knowing that simply letting the rapist know you're present and have called the cops is usually more than enough to send a rapist running for his life. It's not like you're asked to pull off some crazy kung fu tricks to subdue him.

 

[amrl]

Im the only one so far that would let them get raped... am I a bad person?

Yep

Really, explain why im a bad person for not wanting to confront an armed attacker?

Well, who can live with themselves after knowing someone got raped right under your nose because your inaction, or because you decided to just walk away in order to avoid risking your own hide?

Especially knowing that simply letting the rapist know you're present and have called the cops is usually more than enough to send a rapist running for his life. It's not like you're asked to pull off some crazy kung fu tricks to subdue him.

That's not really the point. The murder/rapist has a knife and he may have no weapons on him at all. Sure, it would be a great act of bravery but it would also be very stupid.

 

[Axeli]

Im the only one so far that would let them get raped... am I a bad person?

Yep

Really, explain why im a bad person for not wanting to confront an armed attacker?

Well, who can live with themselves after knowing someone got raped right under your nose because your inaction, or because you decided to just walk away in order to avoid risking your own hide?

Especially knowing that simply letting the rapist know you're present and have called the cops is usually more than enough to send a rapist running for his life. It's not like you're asked to pull off some crazy kung fu tricks to subdue him.

That's not really the point. The murder/rapist has a knife and he may have no weapons on him at all. Sure, it would be a great act of bravery but it would also be very stupid.

I'm not saying I would deem the person lacking the courage completely repulsive being - I can understand fear afterall, but they would certainly be beneath my respect for not acting.

Personally, I would step in myself, but not because I'm especially brave or strong person, but because I know I would never forgive myself for walking away.

EDIT: Oh, and it really wouldn't be that stupid if you know anything about rapists; They tend to run like rabbits when someone happens walk into the scene. Often the person doesn't even realize they had just prevented a rape.

 

[Madkipz]

Let me quote one of my favorite lines from anime.

"Kill you? No, I'm not going to kill you. After all, I can only torture you while you're still alive!"

It is pretty horrifying to me how many people in this thread can't seem to take the issue of rape seriously. Yes, you can continue to live after rape, but that doesn't mean it's easy. That is some seriously life-changing shit. Rape forces you to reevaluate your entire worldview; your opinion of both humanity, and yourself. I can't even imagine what it must be like, but I know it isn't a goddamned joke.

I hypothesize that everyone in this thread who made a comment mocking the question, suggesting that there is absolutely no comparison to be made between the severity of rape and murder is a man who has never had to seriously consider the threat of actually being a victim of rape.

I'm not saying that rape is worse than murder. I'm just saying the gap isn't as laughably wide as many people in this thread seem to believe.

Who ever said that rape is worse? Rape inconveniences you for a while and introduces psychological problems... murder introduces you to not being anymore. Ok, if we talk this completely insane psychos who rape, torture and hold captive a little girl for 25 years... there the line begins to blurr. But even then, the woman freed embrace life very easily afterwards.

Are you fucking serious? Did you seriously just say that a little girl who was tortured and, presumably, raped repeatedly in some psycho's basement for 25 years would "very easily" be able to "embrace life" once set free? I don't even know where to start with this. Psychology begs to differ.

Rape forces you to review your view upon the world ? how so? its very shady right here. Because the sheep that thought she was safe behind protective social barriers was suddenly yet brutally molested and raped. I get this. Would the dumb broad have been better off without this trauma?

Id pick rape being the worst. Because Murder while horribly inconvenient is actually an act of mercy for the person being on the recieveing end. Your life ended. Wop the frikken do. Death the last adventure for mankind.

But if i had to be victim of either id pick rape.

 

[DJShire]

in the name of Valor and Sacrifice, yes, I would save them

 

[jonnosferatu]

Very limiting options. Where's the "call the police and then cautiously interfere" choice?

 

[Madkipz]

Very limiting options. Where's the "call the police and then cautiously interfere" choice?

This is probably an american poll where your either one extreme or the other so <,< ther is no middleroad.

 

[amrl]

Im the only one so far that would let them get raped... am I a bad person?

Yep

Really, explain why im a bad person for not wanting to confront an armed attacker?

Well, who can live with themselves after knowing someone got raped right under your nose because your inaction, or because you decided to just walk away in order to avoid risking your own hide?

Especially knowing that simply letting the rapist know you're present and have called the cops is usually more than enough to send a rapist running for his life. It's not like you're asked to pull off some crazy kung fu tricks to subdue him.

That's not really the point. The murder/rapist has a knife and he may have no weapons on him at all. Sure, it would be a great act of bravery but it would also be very stupid.

I'm not saying I would deem the person lacking the courage completely repulsive being - I can understand fear afterall, but they would certainly be beneath my respect for not acting.

Personally, I would step in myself, but not because I'm especially brave or strong person, but because I know I would never forgive myself for walking away.

That's true. I wouldn't forgive myself either but I am not a scary person. If I were to act I would first run and then phone the police.

I do love how most people are saying they would step in somehow but if most of the people who have said this actually did come across and incident like this, chances are they would be in too much shock to make any action.