Poll: religon: a 7 point scale

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cartzo

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i'm a 6.50, i'd just like to ask those who have answered 1.00 but do not have a religion,
do you fear any sort of hell at all?
 

RiffRaff

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Kellett said:
i voted 7, as there is hardly any evidence of a God and the evidence there is i am very sceptical of
I voted 1 as there is hardly any evidence of there not being a God and the evidence against I am very skeptical of.

Not really my reasoning, but as some others have pointed out after your post, there's really no way to prove one or the other. And if there was proof, but you were skeptical of it, it doesn't really matter if there is proof. Did that make sense? That's why belief in God requires faith.

I won't try converting you, but assuming there's either a Christian God or nothing, mathematically speaking you really should believe in God. Look-up Pascal's Wager.
 

Baby Tea

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curlycrouton said:
Not to insult your beliefs, but is that the same Martin Luther who inspired the term "Lutheran"?

Because if he did, you might not want to proclaim your love for him just yet.

Among others, he wrote a book named On The Jews and Their Lies, in which Luther advocated the destruction of synagogues, seizing Jews' property and money, and destroying their homes, in order that these "poisonous envenomed worms" would be forced into labour or expelled "for all time".

Just pointing out the facts.
Oh no, I don't mean to deify him by any means. He himself said that he is but a man, and can err (Which he certainly did).
But he did do great things in breaking the dogmatic rule that the Catholic Church (Pre-Vatican 2) held over people, such as indulgences and the deification of the Pope. It was some time after become a monk before he even read the New Testament, which is the near entirety of the Christian Faith!
Plus he was pivotal in the shaping of the German language as it is known today.

He did many good things, and, yes, he did bad things.
Chew the meat and spit out the bones, I suppose.
 

Supreme Unleaded

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I chose 5, I dont pray to god, unless I'm at a friends house where they pray, so I do beleive hes out their but I'm not sure, there is no real proof but i beleive there is something out there but it wouldnt suprise me if there wasn't.

so pretty much, if I go over my friends house, I'll pray at dinner and I dont mind, I've gone to church with him before if that counts.

But I dont fully beleive hes out there, so im kinda in the middle.
 

jamesworkshop

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I have to accept the possibiltiy logically because i do not know everything however im still 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure there is no God Norse/Abrahamic/Egytian or otherwise
 

To-Chi VIII

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I voted 6 (but I would have voted 6.99) purely assuming you meant Yahweh, the god of the Christians and Jews (and maybe Muslims. I know they call him Allah, but it could still be the same guy, or chick, or whatever.)

But I personally think there's something. I bet you don't care, but flip a coin. Roll a die. Have a baby. The likely hood of whatever outcome happened, chance, that's my "god." And I'm a 0.01 when it comes to that.
 

Kellett

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RiffRaff said:
Kellett said:
i voted 7, as there is hardly any evidence of a God and the evidence there is i am very sceptical of
I voted 1 as there is hardly any evidence of there not being a God and the evidence against I am very skeptical of.

Not really my reasoning, but as some others have pointed out after your post, there's really no way to prove one or the other. And if there was proof, but you were skeptical of it, it doesn't really matter if there is proof. Did that make sense? That's why belief in God requires faith.

I won't try converting you, but assuming there's either a Christian God or nothing, mathematically speaking you really should believe in God. Look-up Pascal's Wager.
i understand your reasoning, but it's the "half-empty/half-full" arguement. each and every person will take in things through their senses, and each person will perceive things differently, even though it comes from the same thing. and, maybe i'm paranoid, but i'm not the type of person to put faith in what i can't see evidence of/
 

ender214

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I am a 7 for all religions, with the exception of Christianity, in which I would be a 11 on the scale of 1-7.
 

Cpt. Red

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I'm a sceptic (in the sense of philosophical skeptecism, belief in not being able to know anything) and that's the reason I can't go all the way to a 7 so instead it becomes a 6.5(rounded to 7) as I have a very strong belief in that a god do not exist...
 

stefanbertramlee

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yes the poll is stolen from the god delusion which i think everyone should read unless you live in turkey. the scale was desinged for dis/belif in yahweh, allah, and God
 

Mavand

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I don't understand why people think there is a god it just doesn't make any sense.
 

Cavouku

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Gotta' go with two, as I live under assumption there's a God and all. My personal idea of a God is the essence of existence. And maybe has a conscienceness and all these powers or whatnot. I have my own reasons for my beliefs and such. But oh well, no one's here to start a flame war.
 

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Semitendon said:
I am curious, how exactly would you prove that God exists, or does not exist?

From what I have seen, people who believe in God usually do so as a matter of faith. Although they can site examples of creative design, miracles, and other suppossedly "God" inspired things, it always boils down to faith. As well it should, since it is a matter of spirituallity rather than science. In Christianity, faith in Jesus/God is the point. So it becomes more of an issue of whether you believe the idea, rather than ability to prove the existence.

For people who claim athieism, the question is equally if not more confusing. Since God is a considered a spiritual being by most people, there is no scientific evidence that can be applied. If there is no scientific evidence, then you must rely on YOUR ability to accept a God or not. Which quickly spirals into ridiculousness. How does not liking the way the world works and thinking life is unfair or unjust, prove that there is no God? Just because things don't happen the way you think they should, doesn't mean there is no God.

Maybe it would be a better world for everyone if the religious relied on faith to influence the non-religious, rather than invading privacy, attacking, and insisting everyone except them was going to hell. Maybe it would be a better world if the atheist's and others like them stopped antagonizing, insulting, and attacking the beliefs of the religious.
Greatest idea ever! I think I'll start praying now.
Akai Shizuku said:
I'm not a Christian, but I'm 100% certain that God exists.

When a rabbit runs through the snow, does it not leave footprints?
That's deep...
Sometimes I think about the uncountable amount of life on the planet; it all shares the same atoms and molecules; all those atoms were created in the center of our solar system; and any one of those atoms is billions of years old; and I think there has to be some purpose there has to be a God. This is me at my most certain.
 

Cavouku

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Mavand said:
I don't understand why people think there is a god it just doesn't make any sense.
Personally I'd think most people do because there's too much stuff in the world that doesn't make sense.
 

Cliff_m85

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RiffRaff said:
Kellett said:
i voted 7, as there is hardly any evidence of a God and the evidence there is i am very sceptical of
I voted 1 as there is hardly any evidence of there not being a God and the evidence against I am very skeptical of.

Not really my reasoning, but as some others have pointed out after your post, there's really no way to prove one or the other. And if there was proof, but you were skeptical of it, it doesn't really matter if there is proof. Did that make sense? That's why belief in God requires faith.

I won't try converting you, but assuming there's either a Christian God or nothing, mathematically speaking you really should believe in God. Look-up Pascal's Wager.

*head/desk*

You mean "If there isn't a god and I die believing I missed out on nothing, if there is and you die not believing you get punished."

Very well until those who keep spewing it pull their heads out of their bottoms and realize there is more than one religion. What if you believe in God and it's Allah from Islam rather than Christianity? What if it's Frith? What if it's Zeus? What if it's Satan? Well then you're just as screwed. Not only that, but you wasted your life convincing others to follow a lie, something I wouldn't consider 'nothing' but quite absolutely immoral.
 

koichan

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RiffRaff said:
I won't try converting you, but assuming there's either a Christian God or nothing, mathematically speaking you really should believe in God. Look-up Pascal's Wager.
Hard one to debate without offending people, but that doesn't count as a sensible set of reasoning in my opinion.

I think Dawkins had a better retort for this though
"Suppose we grant that there is indeed some small chance that God exists. Nevertheless, it could be said that you will lead a better, fuller life if you bet on his not existing, than if you bet on his existing and therefore squander your precious time on worshipping him, sacrificing to him, fighting and dying for him, etc."
regarding religion, i find Bertrand Russell explained it quite well:
If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.