Poll: Schools stalking students; Does this seem right to you?

[Shoggoth2588]

Simple solution to this: Don't use facebook at school.

Besides, cyber bullying is overblown. I'd rather take cyber bullying than normal bullying any day.

How dare you bring logic to the internet. You're missing the point you fool *wedgie*

OT: sounds extreme but wait, are you using a school issued computer? I don't quite understand the edit but if you're using a computer your school can monitor than keep it offline.

 

[Omega Pirate]

As I understand this only applies to school issued laptops and the computers at school, which is their property. If its their property they can do anything they wish with it. However that should be the extent of that, if they start demanding to install their software on your personal ipod/laptop then its a concern. I don't understand the whole concept of Cyber bullying, but that's probably because I don't use any of the social network websites. Mind you I don't consider forums social networking, not that I post more then 3 times a week on all of the forums I use combined.

 

[Reaper195]

Simple solution to this: Don't use facebook at school.

Besides, cyber bullying is overblown. I'd rather take cyber bullying than normal bullying any day.

Second all the way. Besides, ninty percent of cyber bullying can be solved by finding the person and hitting them a few times. Bullyees need to fight back more.

 

[psychowatcher]

Do I like the idea of a school stalking what the students do online outside of school. No, I don't. However, if they are monitoring what they do in school or on school-issued computers, then I doubt I'd have that much of a problem. After all, at my high school, they told us that there was a group of people off-campus who were paid to monitor everything done on the school's computers. We were given a clear message of what websites we were allowed to access and for what purposes. If we were caught using a proxy to bypass the block they put on a website, we lost computer privileges.

However, the point is, that stalking the students isn't the answer. However, if a student uses the site to threaten violence at the school (like threatening to take a gun and shoot a kid in math class), then the school has every right to take action. And if the kid wasn't serious and feels his punishment was unjustified, he should learn not to throw such comments around willy-nilly where anyone can read them.

 

[Motiv_]

The same policy applies at my job. If you use a company computer, then your history is saved and emailed directly to either me or the manager in your sector, where we review it, and if we find any offensive stuff[footnote]AKA porn, hate websites, racist or sexist material, excessive screwing around when you're supposed to be working, etc etc[/footnote] then we forward it along to the higher-ups, who take appropriate action.

You don't like it? It's not your computer, do that stuff on your own time. When you're on company time, then use computers only for work related activities.

Sound harsh? Maybe. But we've caught two of our employee's trying to post on Craigslist about selling stolen company property, we've also caught one guy who was trying to sell illegal drugs. So it's worth it to me.

What drugs? Seriously, was it something actually bad or just pot?

Cocaine. Dumbshit had some of it in his locker too.

 

[Disanthrophobia]

Is that even legal? one would think the 1st amendment prevents them from doing that, i know they can stop you from saying stuff IN school but not out. Also great solution to the cyber-bully problem is vxheavens cant bully someone without a working computer

 

[WanderingFool]

How bout more focus on Real Bullying, Hmm?

 

[GenericAmerican]

*ahem* If it's their shit, they can do whatever they want with it. If you really really need to go on facebook and don't want them to know about it, then wait until you get home and use your personal computer.

If you lent your laptop to someone and they went and downloaded a ton of porn, you would get mad wouldn't you (well, some people probably wouldn't)? So if your at school/work, and using their stuff, don't do anything you know you will regret later.

Once I did have a friend get expelled because he had a myspace account. Nothing bad was put on the account, it was just an account; and he was expelled...and I can't find a single damn thing in the school's rulebook about it. They really overstepped their boundaries on that one.
Also they tried to ex-spell students for going to the movies.

And Cyberbullying, not a big deal from my standpoint. I have received threatening E-mails, texts, all that shit. Let me tell you, a e-mail is nothing compared to some punk trying to stab you. *insert bad memory here*

If someone sends me a hatefilled email, I read it, laugh and ignore it. If its one my youtube account, I delete it. People, especially most people my age, are complete and total pricks, me included sometimes. All you have to do is ignore it; the real problem is physical bullying.

Actually I would prefer cyberbullying over physical bullying. Really what's worse, getting an e-mail saying "your a fag, go kill yourself you worthless piece of shit." Or leaving school, being confronted by a bully and his two friends, and them saying that same statement and then beating the hell out of you?

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Its atrocious, but get used to it. Freedom in this world is the world's most frequently uttered lie.

 

[Lilani]

Why can school systems never use a rational mindset in these issues? They always resort to either 'take the thing away' or 'watch them do the thing EVERY SECOND OF THE DAY'.

A school's mindset when approaching problems is "What can we do to make the most craziest and most paranoid parents in existence happy with our policies?" They favor this extreme because (in their eyes) to be accused of doing too little is about 500 times worse than being accused of doing too much.

They see it that way because if people think they're doing too little about something and something happens, people can play the negligence card and get the school in a LOT of trouble. But if they're doing too much, then they're dealing with something much more subjective and much less at risk of generating lawsuits.

My opinion on this? It won't solve anything. Banning something in schools just makes kids want to do that thing more. They're treating the symptoms, not the disease. I think if they want to approach cyber-bullying they should approach it in the same way they approach STDs or drunk driving--bring in real victims and have them share their stories.

That still probably wouldn't solve much, though. This is a lot deeper than anything the school can solve. It's a problem that begins at home, with how the kids were taught how to treat people. Not to mention that they pick up on the Internet about trolling and whatnot.

The Internet has made bullying streamlined and less painful on the bully's side. Rather than having to see the tears run down the person's face right there in front of them, they can get all of the hate out at a safe distance. They can get their high without having to deal with the immediate consequences. It takes quite a bully to be able to continue to bully someone while they're bawling in front of them, or keep throwing punches when their face is already bloody. Most would hit their empathetic threshold long before that point, or at least somebody else's nearby would. But almost anyone with a chip on their shoulder can write a mean note and click "send."

 

[Eumersian]

I think it can be fair, if there is reasonable suspicion. But going all out and tapping into everything on a person's FB, ridiculous. And absolutely not cool.

 

[Actual]

Wow that is a rich, fancy school to provide every student with a take-home laptop.

But if it's their laptops they can have any monitoring software they want on there.

 

[havass]

That's a flawed solution. The only way that'll work will be because it frustrates everyone into not using social networking sites.
I'd take cyber-bullying over real bullying anyday. Trolls i can handle.