Poll: Security Guards V.S. 12-year old punk
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Parents really need to beat their kids more these days.
And no, I'm not talking about child abuse.
There's a difference between beating some sense into kids for being stupid, and just doing it for the hell of it. Some kids could really use some "tough" love.
And no, I'm not talking about child abuse.
There's a difference between beating some sense into kids for being stupid, and just doing it for the hell of it. Some kids could really use some "tough" love.
You're right, there's no way 12 year olds can be violent, they're all playing with their action men figures.AndyFromMonday said:
Also, if you're trolling - good job, sir, haha!
so a 7 foot monster of a security guard beat a twelve year old who was pissing him off, he needs to lose his job. I don't know what the kid was doing before the video starts, but this is not how you handle it. The whipping out of the baton (I assume to force back onlookers) was just icing on the power trip cake.
It's shocking how many people say the guard was right. Am I missing something here? Are you all swedes and the guard was detaining him for illegal possession of cocaine? How the hell do you fellas know what happened? This could be a very simple scenario:
Kid's just standing there, all smug, maybe leaned on the window or something, with his friends. Guards come by. Tell him to stop leaning on the window. The kid tells them that there is no sign indicating that such an action is restricted and he will continue to lean. Guards tell him again. Kid refuses. Guards take out handcuffs and cuff him.
And even if he did go into the guard's face and said "FUCK YOU" he should be trained not to respond to a minor's taunting unless the minor becomes directly violent? What did the kid do? Kick him? SERIOUSLY?! He barely pushed him with his leg. That's like saying you have the right to invade an entire country because some asshole might at some point threaten your country at some point with shit he doesn't even have now.
Kid's just standing there, all smug, maybe leaned on the window or something, with his friends. Guards come by. Tell him to stop leaning on the window. The kid tells them that there is no sign indicating that such an action is restricted and he will continue to lean. Guards tell him again. Kid refuses. Guards take out handcuffs and cuff him.
And even if he did go into the guard's face and said "FUCK YOU" he should be trained not to respond to a minor's taunting unless the minor becomes directly violent? What did the kid do? Kick him? SERIOUSLY?! He barely pushed him with his leg. That's like saying you have the right to invade an entire country because some asshole might at some point threaten your country at some point with shit he doesn't even have now.
Basic story is that the kids were doing some dangerous shit with the trains, they were sitting between the trailers or something. They weren't supposed to do that anyway, so the guards came, they resisted and well, you can see the rest.Nuclear_Suspect said:
The kid had it coming. He'd obviously made an offence that required him to be put into handcuffs and then he tried to escape. The Security Guard enacted reasonable force to stop the kid escaping and everyone overreacts because he's a kid.
If you live in a country then you agree to abide by their laws. If you break these laws then you must accept the consequences.
If you live in a country then you agree to abide by their laws. If you break these laws then you must accept the consequences.
You may as well differentiate between "spanking" and "beating", if only to avoid accidental strawman arguments.Ralphfromdk said:
Spanking: A balanced thunk on a sensitive but not easily damaged area (the butt, for instance) or light attack somewhere else (clip on the lip, etc).
Beating: Any heavy hit, or multiple hits on a sensitive area, etc.
When I worked with emotionally disturbed kids, they trained us that you only escalate the hold if they won't be talked down and if they continue to try and hurt you. In this case, since the child was kicking at the security guard's knee, he probably would have been justified in taking him to the ground and holding him there until he was calm. Of course it's a little hard to tell from the video what the two were saying, but it doesn't matter how old or small the kid is, if he is behaving in an unsafe manner the security guard should have done what was necessary.
I was going to reply and start doing the whole "back and forth" thing like I usually do when I want to start a discussion but then I realized I'd just be wasting my time since you people obviously don't want to hear what I have to say, you only want to hear what you have to say. So, in the interest of "common sense" and security guards defending themselves from drug addicted, knife wielding, twelve year old criminals, I bid you farewell.
Guard was in the right. I work behind a bar at football matches here, and according to the stats given in our safety brief, a third of knives and "offensive weapons" seized in the stadium were taken from people under 16. So all this "think of the children" shite is idiotic, they're just as capable of being a threat as anyone else, if not more because of the "showing off to friends" factor.
I can tell you what they did, they were riding the train between the trailers or something like that. So the security guards came in and stopped them before Darwin came and ate them. The kids did not respond well to the guards trying to save their lifes and the rest is history.Zulnam said:
The thing for me is that it isn't okay to kick a guard like that. Like seriously. Therefor, the guard put him on the ground so he would stop. The batoon was just to make the other people back off.
Of course, you're right. How dare people try to show children what consequences are. We should just send them to their room and take away their Xbox, computer, smart phone, books, toys, etc. ad nauseam so they can lay on the bed and stew about how stupid and unfair we are. That'll drive the lesson home so much better than a little pain and public humiliation.AndyFromMonday said:
