Poll: Semi-nudity and different genders

[AvsJoe]

Sorry to go a bit off topic, but I live in an area where women are legally allowed to go top-"free" should they choose to. It's actually a pretty sexist notion to allow men to go without tops but not allow women to do so, so the laws were changed. Funnily enough, when I see a women going topless, I notice it's only other women who get annoyed or angry with her. Doesn't happen too often though, other than March Break.

Where is this paradise?

The province of Ontario, Canada.

if a woman did the same, parents would be averting their children's eyes, media companies would be barraged with complaints and she'd be made to put clothes on or, laws permitting, even arrested (Can the police do that? It sounds plausible).

Sorry to go a bit off topic, but I live in an area where women are legally allowed to go top-"free" should they choose to. It's actually a pretty sexist notion to allow men to go without tops but not allow women to do so, so the laws were changed. Funnily enough, when I see a women going topless, I notice it's only other women who get annoyed or angry with her. Doesn't happen too often though, other than March Break.

Wait! Where do you live that this is legal? As far as I know just about all North American and European countries do not permit it.

There are a few areas that I know of that allow topfree women. New York definitely. Certain parts of British Columbia and Quebec too I think.

 

[Saulkar]

Wait! Where do you live that this is legal? As far as I know just about all North American and European countries do not permit it.

Pretty sure it's legal in parts of Canada and know it's legal in parts of the U.S. (NY, OH, HW, MA, etc). I doubt it's changed the people who live there's lives much, but it's legal.

Just confirmed Ontario. If I were a women I would jump right on it, give a few black eyes to the guys that get a little too close. Hehehehe! Then again there is this issue where a judge ruled that it was not rape if the person was dressed provocatively so meh! But in all honesty the argument that women must cover up because the breasts are sexual is mostly societal (not ruling out natural biology here) same way oral sonic vibrations of a particular caliber, i.e. Swears have the nature of being considered vulgar. Almost entirely subjective, personally I believe that if there were more breasts in everyday situations we would not notice them anymore than a persons face. What do you think?

P.S. Sorry for bad grammar, logic errors, and sentence fragment, really tired here and need to be up for school tomorrow.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Breast fetishism has become so prevalent that the legal system considers female breasts to be a sexual object.

Therefore, to display them publicly is considered public indecency.

 

[Custard_Angel]

I've already said my piece here, but this just occurred to me:

Why is this a point of debate?

Why is there a big problem with the way things are?

Why is gender bias considered an inherently terrible thing?

Why is there an overwhelming desire to make the world as bland and same-ish as possible?

Why can't people just embrace differences without feeling the need to make them conform to something?

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

 

[The Hero Killer]

Its funny how we as humans are the only species who have this problem with modesty.

Its like wondering why do we find the part of a female's body where she stores milk attractive? Were we taught to think like this? Why must they cover up and while males do not have to? Both genders have nipples and areolas, is it the size of a female's chest that makes it so taboo? Do we see it as a threat to the female since we view breasts in a sexual nature and it makes them more vunerable to rape if they are left in plain view?

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

Men don't have boobs. I thought that would be pretty obvious...

We do have breasts. They're just not as developed as that of a woman's. Yes, that does also mean we have mammary glands, IIRC.

What? No we d... WHAT?!?!

 

[tzimize]

if a woman did the same, parents would be averting their children's eyes, media companies would be barraged with complaints and she'd be made to put clothes on or, laws permitting, even arrested (Can the police do that? It sounds plausible).

Sorry to go a bit off topic, but I live in an area where women are legally allowed to go top-"free" should they choose to. It's actually a pretty sexist notion to allow men to go without tops but not allow women to do so, so the laws were changed. Funnily enough, when I see a women going topless, I notice it's only other women who get annoyed or angry with her. Doesn't happen too often though, other than March Break.

Yeah...strange that. Its almost like men dont mind looking at boobs

 

[Jonluw]

It's because the male chest does not have "organs" on it that are associated with sexuality.

Nudity isn't about displaying skin, it's about displaying sexual body parts.
The fact that women have sexual body parts in a place where men don't, doesn't mean that women should be allowed to show off this part of their body because men can.

Say I had a penis on my knee: Just because people who don't have penises on their knees are allowed to display their knees, that doesn't mean I should be allowed to display my penis.

If breasts should be allowed to be displayed in public, so should, for example, asses.

That said, I believe women should be allowed to go topless, but optimally, I don't think there should be any problems with people walking completely naked in the streets either.

 

[Vryyk]

Wait, as a guy I can go around topless? Why did no one tell me this? *removes bra*

 

[Dags90]

It's because the male chest does not have "organs" on it that are associated with sexuality.

What organs are you referring to? I hope it's not the mammary glands...there's really not much sexual about those unless you're kind of freaky, and men have them, too.

 

[brunothepig]

It's because the female breasts, whether you agree with the view or not, are regarded as sexual objects, much more so than a man's bare chest. Women's nipples are more sensitive, they actually have breasts (moobs don't count) etc.
So they get censored to "protect the children". Which I actually agree with, for once. Parents can choose to explain about all that crap when they want and all that.

 

[Verlander]

There's a whole lotta shit I don't want to see... and that's mostly topless men. In this country (UK) it's a problem every time it stops raining, and our miserable sun pops its head around a cloud, warming this moist country to about 3 degrees C. What can you expect from a country whose genetic makeup is 98% inbred chavvy scum? I say keep clothes on unless in a designated place, and I'm a fucking liberal

 

[Jonluw]

It's because the male chest does not have "organs" on it that are associated with sexuality.

What organs are you referring to? I hope it's not the mammary glands...there's really not much sexual about those unless you're kind of freaky, and men have them, too.

It's the fat around the mammary glands. It's associated with sexuality.

I made an edit to my post, further elaborating on my stance, by the way.

 

[Jonluw]

It's because the male chest does not have "organs" on it that are associated with sexuality.

What organs are you referring to? I hope it's not the mammary glands...there's really not much sexual about those unless you're kind of freaky, and men have them, too.

The fat surrounding the mammary glands is associated with sexuality, like it or not.

I made an edit to my post further elaborating my stance, by the way.

Edit: Double post. Ignore my idiocy.

 

[Vandy]

Because bare boobs are too Awesome for the general public.

 

[MrStab]

Female breasts are viewed sexually males aren't end of story.

 

[Catchy Slogan]

Boobs rock, but they wouldn't be so special if they weren't covered up for special occasions.

Very valid point. But then, you could still have that secret awesomeness while making men cover up - the gender bias is still removed.

A man's body isn't nearly as appealing as a woman's body.

Sexual preference regardless, everybody likes seeing an attractive female. Straight women, gay women, straight men and gay men all appreciate an attractive woman, but the same cannot be said for an attractive man.

Some call it gender bias, I call it "who the fuck cares, its the way things are".

You obviously don't speak for me. You could give me an attractive man over a woman any day. Wait, that didn't come out right. Ah, screw it. But I agree with your last point. I don't really care.

 

[Aurgelmir]

Why is it that it's more acceptable for public displays of male semi-nudity (i.e. topless) than for females? You see it everywhere: ads for fragrances, at the beach, on a hot day, on TV, in movies, etc. Men can just walk around with their t-shirts off, bare chested, and nobody cares; if a woman did the same, parents would be averting their children's eyes, media companies would be barraged with complaints and she'd be made to put clothes on or, laws permitting, even arrested (Can the police do that? It sounds plausible.).

Obviously, there are plenty of nude woman in more adult films and on Page 3 of the Sun, but male toplessness is a lot more common and a lot less frowned upon - why is that? When it comes to below-the-belt nudity, it's a different story; fully naked males and females are both a bit "taboo", if you know what I mean. What's so different about the other half?

EDIT: Another point I'd like to make - if you see topless women in magazines (like candid celebrity photos or whatever), only the nipples will be censored, usually with little stars. Men have nipples too, right? So it's obviously not the fleshy, breast tissue that's the "problem", it's the nipples - this makes less sense because the breast tissue is the only thing different between men's and women's chests (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Female Breasts are connected with sexuality and reproduction, and therefore is considered by many to be as naughty as genitalia. The male chest has no such stigma.

A bare chested man would be equal to a woman wearing a Bikini.
Personally I like that most women cover them up, makes it a lot more fun in the bedroom.

Now what I NEVER understood is why so many countries thinks a thong-bikini is inappropriate... whats "bad" about the bum crack.

 

[siahsargus]

I think male nudity should be outlawed, while female nudity is keenly encouraged.
You may call that a double standard, I call it beauty.

Your idea of beauty is a double standard. Your are so flamingly heterosexual it's not even funny. If you don't find anything even remotely aesthetically appealing besides the object of your sexual interest, you have issues.

I think a more practical approach to wearing clothing, one that would not feature nudity as taboo is in order. Also, yes, being stricter on female toplessness is a double standard, and just cultural baggage.