Poll: Sexy convention costumes - okay to stare?

[Colour Scientist]

I love the hypocrisy in this entire thread.

Staring is morally reprehensible and wrong you perverted man asshole pig you.

Now being sneaky about it, covert and unnoticeable, that's morally aok in my human morals handy dandy guidebook.

We already know what kind of people you all are to look at sexually attractive women because they are sexually attractive, right now we're simply negotiating how much time is "appropriate" not that our reason is more appropriate.

First of all, this is the second time in this thread you've reacted to accusations that no one has made.

Secondly, a vast majority of posts in this thread boil down to:

-Looking is fine, it's not a punishable offence.
-Staring for too long and ogling people can make them feel uncomfortable.
-Making other human beings feel uncomfortable isn't a very nice thing to do.
-Ergo, people should try not to stare at other people.

I'm ignoring the rest of your post because it's a tad hyperbolic and, well, mad.

 

[DrOswald]

EDIT: I just want to add something. I have talked to many, many real-life women, who have all said that creepy staring is creepy staring, no matter how "attractive" a guy is. The Chris-Evans-looking guy in the nice suit could be a rapist/murderer just as easily as the sweaty neckbeard. Just imagine being stared at by Patrick Bateman.

And I have actually spent time with many real-life women. I have observed their actual behavior. The line of what is creepy absolutely does change depending on who it is and what they look like. Have you ever been to a party with a woman where she was happy that a guy keeps on shooting her glances from across the room? Has that guy ever been a fat neck beard?

Frankly, it seems ridiculous to deny it and I personally see no problem with it. Unwanted sexual attention is creepy no matter if it is intended to be or not. There is no denying this. Whether any given instance of sexual attention is wanted can only be determined by the one receiving the sexual attention.

When people say "Women are so shallow! They choose who they want sexual attention based on looks!" the response always seems to be some form of denying women care about looks in this case. I think this misses the point entirely. There is nothing wrong with being choosy about who you wish to receive sexual attention from. Just as there is nothing wrong with being choosy about who you give sexual attention to.

 

[Colour Scientist]

Ah well then I suppose I don't mind playing by some of the rules given here all things considered.

What made you think you had the right to read my post as thoroughly as you did and judge it in the manner in which you decided to judge it?

Did you not know that I only put that post out there for you to barely skim over and not read entirely? You didn't have my permission to look at it as you did. I only make posts here for the strict and sole purpose of people to glance at for a few seconds! Not for you to read the entirety of.

I can't believe you missed the purpose of my posting methods and patterns entirely. Gah!

And if this sounds even the remotest bit ridiculous to you. Read this thread.

You aren't making the convincing argument that you think you are.

You simply aren't comparing like with like, the fact that you think you are is a little worrying though.

 

[Boris Goodenough]

But does that mean people will have to stop smacking me in the arse when I dress up? Awwwww I am going to miss that

 

[Riot3000]

I love the hypocrisy in this entire thread.

Staring is morally reprehensible and wrong you perverted man asshole pig you.

Now being sneaky about it, covert and unnoticeable, that's morally aok in my human morals handy dandy guidebook.

We already know what kind of people you all are to look at sexually attractive women because they are sexually attractive, right now we're simply negotiating how much time is "appropriate" not that our reason is more appropriate.

First of all, this is the second time in this thread you've reacted to accusations that no one has made.

Secondly, a vast majority of posts in this thread boil down to:

-Looking is fine, it's not a punishable offence.
-Staring for too long and ogling people can make them feel uncomfortable.
-Making other human beings feel uncomfortable isn't a very nice thing to do.
-Ergo, people should try not to stare at other people.

I'm ignoring the rest of your post because it's a tad hyperbolic and, well, mad.

Honestly this whole thread has been hyperbolic, overhyped and kind of mad even the "calm" responses. While yes his was hyperbolic and it was pretty funny to me and I got his point. While I do agree that is what most post boil down to you have boil them down because some have been as equally or close enough to being hyperbolic as his post.

 

[Riot3000]

Sure, nothing is stopping you from DOING that, but not only will you look like a huge pervert ( which sorta ruins any chance you would have had with the person in question), but you can get thrown out of the con.

Ehhh, why is there always this implication that looking means wanting to have sex with whatever you're looking at. I mean, I totally look with adoration at a nice steak on my plate, but I'm not going to stick my cock in it >.>

Man, you don't know what you're missing, i mean it's some nice juicy tender meat... (Ok i think i just disgusted myself)

But yeah, you bring up a good point, which also shows just how much people love to jump to conclusions. I mean I stare at Goths or hippies (examples), but it sure as hell isn't because i want to stick anything in em...

Agreed yes staring is rude and impolite but the conclusion jumping is getting 10 across the boards and 9 from the Germany Judge.

 

[DrOswald]

But does that mean people will have to stop smacking me in the arse when I dress up? Awwwww I am going to miss that

No no no, it is staring that is the problem. Arse smacking is still ok. We dodged a bullet there, right?

 

[Baron Teapot]

I hate to make people uncomfortable, but you can't help but notice beautiful people. It's natural to look at people you're attracted to. Still, you don't need to stare.

If someone has spent a long time making a pretty complicated costume, and it's turned out great, then compliment them on it.

 

[wulf3n]

Just to clear up some legal misunderstanding some here appear to have.

The ability to do something does not grant the right or entitle you to said action. Rights and entitlements are things given to you by others, usually the government or the person in question.

You may have the physical capability to stare at a person, but you don't, in any sense of the word, have the right or entitlement to do so, unless of course the person you're staring at says its OK.

 

[wulf3n]

Just to clear up some legal misunderstanding some here appear to have.

The ability to do something does not grant the right or entitle you to said action. Rights and entitlements are things given to you by others, usually the government or the person in question.

You may have the physical capability to stare at a person, but you don't, in any sense of the word, have the right or entitlement to do so, unless of course the person you're staring at says its OK.

Quick define staring within a legal context that is not in any way shape or form subjective and can not be twisted or construed in a way by a lawyer to prove that the person staring in question could say that the person did not believe they were staring at the person making the claim they were potentially doing something that you seem to think has any potential ground to stand on in the court of law.

Or you could openly admit that you are trying to take on a sense of moral superiority, pretend it has legal context, and go from there.

For example. What is the legal definition of how long you are allowed to look at someone before it becomes "illegal staring" because I am quite interested in this point of view of legality claims.

Haha moral superiority, first time that's been pointed at me. Its funny because I don't have any.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't know anything about law based on your statement.

This isn't about it being illegal to stare, but rather there is no legislation to say that you can.

Ergo you don't have the right just the ability.

 

[wulf3n]

Who is it again that was trying to clear up some legal misunderstandings?

I don't recally making any legal misunderstanding. In fact I claimed people did not have the capacity to judge someone else in regards to staring without it being a question of subjectivity or that they have a right to decide where someones eyes land, or even in case of persuit it seems according to a legal case I mentioned earlier.

But hey do go on with clearing up our legal misunderstandings.

Did I quote you or reference something you said? A crazy thought here, maybe I wasn't talking about you?

But that's the past. What has me more curious now is how defensive you got over something you didn't apparently say and how you throw around moral superiority even though it doesn't actually fit in this discussion.

Could it be you're in doubt over your original argument s but are too afraid to admit something to yourself?

Curious indeed.