Poll: Should being obese be considered a disability?

[Jamieson 90]

No absolutely not. If you live an active lifestyle then there is no reason for you to be obese. It simply just comes down to lazyness with a lot of people who are obese. They will get no sympathy from me.

 

[BoredDragon]

Btw, a LOT of you Escapist ppl seem to have trouble differentiating "lose" from "loose." As in, when you fuck a prostitute and forget to take the amateur video you made out of your VCR and your spouse finds it, you "LOSE" your wife. When you make a video of prostitute sitting down on an orange hazard cone, she gets a "LOOSE" pussy.

Additionally, the word "DEFINITELY" DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING 'A' IN IT.

Of all the pre-adolescent writing mistakes...

Oh no, run kids, old man spell-check is on the rage again XD

 

[Verlander]

Look, if you're using the word "disabled" merely to classify them as people less able to perform physical tasks than others, then yes, that is an undeniable fact. But then you could say a small-framed man who never exercises and smokes cigarettes is "disabled," because he can't run a quarter mile and can't lift 50 lbs. Disability or not, the label SHOULD NOT be a release of LIABILITY, and what I'm garnering from your post is that you believe it does.

Undiagnosed thyroid conditions and true compulsive eating disorders aside, the vast majority of fat people have no pathology on which to foist blame for their state of being.

Labeling it a "disability" in the U.S. law sense would ENTITLE fat fucks to undeserved perks--essentially reward for not taking care of themselves. And just so you don't think my disgust is reserved only for the overweight, I don't think smokers with COPD should be entitled to disability benefits either. You bring your poor health on yourself with a lifetime of poor choices, it's your own damn fault.

Just to mention, you didn't quote me properly, so I didn't get a notification about this.

All I can say is... damn you're a hateful person. In the US, nobody gets proper social care, so I wouldn't worry yourself about it too much. These people are disabled in as much as they are unable to complete tasks, and when it's taken too far, they are unable to work. Cutting them off from society isn't a solution, sorting the problem out is the solution. If you have an attitude where you feel the best way to make society better is to remove people, you are never going to have a good society.

Rehabilitated people have a better success rate than people just excluded, and you know what? That fat guy your are so openly discriminating against, could do some amazing things if he got the chance. People don't get fat on purpose, to spite you, or because they want to sponge off the state. No one enjoys being obese. It's not attractive, or socially acceptable, and people don't enjoy being unemployed losers either. Fuck sake, other disabled people get help, like hearing aids, or guide dogs or whatever. Get these guys fit and productive members of society, and while doing so, help keep carers and trainers employed. Simply hating on people has never been productive

 

[BoredDragon]

Obesity... Not a pretty thing. I'm glad I'm out of that hole now... So! Who wants cake? xD

I'm sorry but I have to do this. Obligatory Portal reference... GO!!!

"The cake is a lie"

 

[BoredDragon]

Neutral: It depends on the level of obesity. If they are so heavy that they can't support their own weight, then I guess they don't have a choice.

Spoiler: Malicious

Here's a tip. If someone is fat, encouraging them to be even more lazy is not a good idea. Why deprive them of the most basic physical activity. If they want that bucket of fried chicken so badly, they should atleast walk a few blocks for it.

well put my friend, that's why I like where I'm staying at college. If I want any fast food I have to walk like 6 blocks to go get it and 6 blocks to bring back to my apartment

 

[SilverUchiha]

No. It's a choice. Smoking isn't a disability. Procrastination isn't a disability. What makes being obese so different?

*note: It's obviously not a choice when it's the result of a disability. But then it's a symptom, not it's own disability.

I agree with you for the most part... but I am still under the belief that procrastination is a disability. I'll look it up and get some proof... eventually. Maybe tomorrow... or whenever... Whenever is good.

OT: Obesity is not a disability. It's just depressing when it gets out of control.

 

[j0frenzy]

Btw, a LOT of you Escapist ppl seem to have trouble differentiating "lose" from "loose." As in, when you fuck a prostitute and forget to take the amateur video you made out of your VCR and your spouse finds it, you "LOSE" your wife. When you make a video of prostitute sitting down on an orange hazard cone, she gets a "LOOSE" pussy.

Additionally, the word "DEFINITELY" DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING 'A' IN IT.

Of all the pre-adolescent writing mistakes...

Oh no, run kids, old man spell-check is on the rage again XD

And maybe while we are all running, the fat ones will lose a couple of pounds

 

[darkless]

No, because unlike disabilities being obese can be cured by putting down the cake and taking a walk.

 

[Poofs]

it definately shouldnt be as it isnt a disability
disabilities are irreversible problems that NEVER go away
obesity CAN go away AND it is self-caused

 

[Arizona Kyle]

If they are fat the should have to park in the back of the parking lot

lol and the parking lot should be on an upward slant

Please.... it should be a shear drop from where they park XD

 

[e2density]

No, just like emphysema from smoking shouldn't either.

 

[Bihac]

Nope and I think Ricky Gervais says my views pretty well

Damn it, Ninja'd.

 

[ANImaniac89]

No its really is not and this is coming from someone who is overweight by about 60 to 70 pounds.

I think if I even got to the point when my fatness impeded on my day to day living in such away as that I would be considered disabled I would want to be put out my misery.

 

[Haydyn]

Oh god no! Diet and exercise mofos. Unless you got a bullet in the leg making walking difficult, you best not be giving me crap for being 100 bloody pounds overweight.

 

[senataur]

Yes because is clearly is a disability, at the extreme end at least.

It is however a disability that has a very straight forward cure and any payments/subsidies/pensions etc should be dependant on the patient making worthwhile attempts at resolving that situation.

 

[Mcface]

No, even if they are gentically predisposed to it. They can still work hard and lose weight. I can't work hard and lose my cerebral palsy.

this.
when i hear fat people complain it really pisses me off, one of the few things that can.

When there are people with real diseases, who have no choice in the matter, opposed to some fatass who is too lazy to change his life.

 

[frago roc]

It's funny to read this thread and see just how out of touch the world is when it comes to disability. Any mental affliction can be considered a disability because it limits what is possible from that individual. Most obese people are not obese by choice, like lots of things in the human experience it is possible to be chemically addicted to food. Imagine that craving you have and being unable to resist to the point that you have mobility issues and serious health issues. Disability plain and simple.

So show me the study that concludes the overwhelming majority (or at least a significant percentage) of obese people suffer from uncontrollable "eating disorders." Americans are far fatter than the rest of the industrialized world, so how do you account for this? Only U.S. citizens are afflicted by an insatiable appetite?

NO. The problem is the cushy, sedentary lifestyle and culture we have developed. The problem is the OVERLY PROCESSED FOOD that has become widely available at an ostensibly cheaper cost than healthful (not "healthy") choices. I say ostensibly because when you think about it, that 5 dollar "value meal" is one single, almost nutritionally empty meal, and with raw materials and cooking experience that 5 dollars could net 2-3 truly filling meals (perhaps sans meat).

Processed food is very easy to over-eat because it's nutritionally deficient, often requires little chewing, often contains non-nutritional fillers, and is loaded with salt, which makes you reach for sugar (soda).

Sure, there are some people who experience uncontrollable compulsive eating, but your garden variety Fat American Fuck is simply lazy and makes poor choices of what to put in his body.

Nice fail argument, wanna try again?

Hey durp, notice how the topic is about disability and obesity? So perhaps, durp, I wasn't talking about the run-of-the-mill obese person, but rather the one's that qualify for disability, as per the title of the topic. But I do enjoy your over-the-top rantings. Next time try and read post as the pertain to the topic, not just what you obviously have more than a passing interest about. Good manners too, now enjoy your forum suspension.=)

 

[frago roc]

No, even if they are gentically predisposed to it. They can still work hard and lose weight. I can't work hard and lose my cerebral palsy.

this.
when i hear fat people complain it really pisses me off, one of the few things that can.

When there are people with real diseases, who have no choice in the matter, opposed to some fatass who is too lazy to change his life.

Salzman, L. 1972. Obsessive-Compulsive Aspects of Obesity. The International Journal of Psychiatry in Medicine, 3(1):29 - 36.

Obesity is related in some ways to the range of disorders which are compulsively produced and sustained. Like drug or alcohol addiction, obesity may be the consequence of a personality configuration that compels some individuals to overeat as a way of dealing with emotional distress. Such individuals feel exempt from the human physiological limitations and feel they can eat without gaining weight, or they perceive their body image as slender rather than obese.

 

[Mcface]

No, even if they are gentically predisposed to it. They can still work hard and lose weight. I can't work hard and lose my cerebral palsy.

this.
when i hear fat people complain it really pisses me off, one of the few things that can.

When there are people with real diseases, who have no choice in the matter, opposed to some fatass who is too lazy to change his life.

Salzman, L. 1972. Obsessive-Compulsive Aspects of Obesity. The International Journal of Psychiatry in Medicine, 3(1):29 - 36.

Obesity is related in some ways to the range of disorders which are compulsively produced and sustained. Like drug or alcohol addiction, obesity may be the consequence of a personality configuration that compels some individuals to overeat as a way of dealing with emotional distress. Such individuals feel exempt from the human physiological limitations and feel they can eat without gaining weight, or they perceive their body image as slender rather than obese.

Ok, i fail to see why this is anyone's fault but their own.
We wouldn't feed a crackheads drug addiction, nor should we for fat people.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

Yes. People here will probably be like "no it's a choice" but in many cases that is just not true. It should be situational.