Poll: Should I sue?

[SonicWaffle]

They tried to help you, they didn't purposefully make you ill.

Don't be a dick and sue people when they were trying to help you, even if they did get it wrong.

I thought that too, and I'm a 3rd year law student. It's morally questionable to run around sueing doctors who genuinely tried to help you. Especially if it's the NHS which is payed by the British tax payer. You'd be damaging the service, stretching their already stretched resourses which will stress the doctors, who will make more mistakes. It's a vicious cycle.

I'm not talking about the NHs; nobody is. People are suing the drug manufacturer, because apparently studies linking bowel disease/depression/birth defects to this drug have been around for years but it was only recalled last year. If it was a case of sueing the NHS I wouldn't do it, because sueing people who spend their lives helping others is a dick move, pure and simple.

Sure I might win some money, but that money could have been spent keeping someone alive. A pharmaceutical company, on the other hand, is a profit-based organization, and who has has been (seemingly) negligent. I have no problem taking their money.

Thanks for your opinions though, I'd rather people were honest if they think I'm a cock

 

[Skops]

No one should frown upon suing over something like this. It's a medical problem.

It's the garbage like the guy with agoraphobia suing Sony for banning him from PSN cause its his ONLY source of connection to the outside world (which i call major bullshit) or the fact Jack Thompson is suing Facebook for groups that are called "Jack Thompson deserves to be punched in the face" and alike. That kind of stupid shit is the stuff people don't like other people suing about.

Your case is perfectly fine and just. Get dat paper.

 

[SonicWaffle]

Get a second opinion first. Have another doctor look into it. If he says that the other doctor has done something wrong that has resulted in this not going away, or in fact being the reason as to why it happened, then sue.

However, there is a possibility that you can be blamed for it all, and so I suggest that you do heavy research on the matter before even thinking about suing.

I'm working on it, but it seems like the local hospitals are shut down. Nobody is answering phones. Possibly the start of the zombie apocalypse, or they're just winding down for Easter

this fall, Jesus rises again to absolve... your brains!
sorry, just had to say that

anyway, I would say do some research and see if anyone else has had similar experiences. is there are other things like it, then there is a good chance that it is a known defect in the product, or at least a problem that needs to be brought to light.

Dude, there were three high-profile cases already based around this. The judges have already awarded $33 million in damages, with about 5000 cases pending. I think I can safely say other people have experienced the same problem

 

[stok3r]

So, today my girlfriend alerted me to a recall of a medicine called Accutane, also known as Isotretinoin - link here, apologies for the fact it's a "how to claim" site but they're filling up Google currently;

http://www.accutaneclaimcenter.org/

It's common usage is for the treatment of severe acne. I took the medicine for over three months last year, before I had to stop due to developing Ulcerative Colitis. If you don't know what that is, check wikipedia, but if you want to avoid throwing up then don't look at the picture.

Boiled down to the basics, bowel ulcers. Crapping blood, constant pain, never being able to go more than five minutes away from a toilet...not fun. I also had to undergo two colonoscopies, they involve putting a camera somewhere that a camera should never go which frankly causes a lot of distress. After stopping taking the drug and starting an intensive course of anti-inflammatories, steroids (to counter the side effects of the anti-inflammatories) and calcium tablets (to counter the side effects of the steroids) the UC cleared up, and at my final outpatients appointment the doctor told me that I didn't actually have Ulcerative Colitis; that I had merely had a bad reaction to the Isotretinoin. Unfortunately, in the three weeks or so since I stopped taking the medication, the UC has resurfaced and is making life very unpleasant again.

Now, I'm in somewhat of a dilemma. My girlfriend, family and friends are encouraging me to try and get some compensation. However, ever since I first saw the South Park episode with Sexual Harassment Panda I've held dear his latter motto, that "frivolous lawsuits damage society". On the one hand, I really don't want to be the kind of guy who sues people. On the other, there is a chance that I'll be shitting blood for the rest of my life.

What do I do? Does this count as a frivolous lawsuit or do you guys think I'm entitled to something?

okay, I have the same don't sue attitude as you, but if you really wanna do it, then check if it is a possible side effect. Cause chances are if they told you on the tube or whatever that it could possibly cause what you got, then it might be a waste of money

I dunno, that's my advise

 

[SNIPERFOX ft. Harry P.Ness]

Do they state that this can happen in the side effect list? If no then yes sue if yes then:
Talk to a pharmacist (should be free and available in every pharmacy) and/or a doctor and try to figure out why you had the bad reaction and from there decide if you have ground for a lawsuit since usually if it's in the side effects list then you won't win.

And to prevent anything like that from happening again ALWAYS talk to a pharmacist before taking a new drug to see if it functions weirdly with any other drug or ointment or whatever you're already taking.

Also:

try google some natural treatments not drugs but, dont sue.but take a small dose of the medciation.try find a pro docter like a buddhist one. one of them cured a samll pain in my gut that caused me a lot of diarrhea, gon off my food, and can barely move.

Don't do that, if there is one thing I hate then that's homeopathic "medicine" since that's just bullshit and anytime it "works" it's only because of the placebo effect.

I i didn'y say homeopathic. i said docters taht give orgainic/ natural treatments.

 

[Samcanuck]

Yeah why not...you suffered and whose to blame? Some (legal) drug pusher. Try and get some compensation.

BTW, dont go by what south park jokes about. They are twats. Semi funny, but twats just the same.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

They tried to help you, they didn't purposefully make you ill.

Don't be a dick and sue people when they were trying to help you, even if they did get it wrong.

I thought that too, and I'm a 3rd year law student. It's morally questionable to run around sueing doctors who genuinely tried to help you. Especially if it's the NHS which is payed by the British tax payer. You'd be damaging the service, stretching their already stretched resourses which will stress the doctors, who will make more mistakes. It's a vicious cycle.

I'm not talking about the NHs; nobody is. People are suing the drug manufacturer, because apparently studies linking bowel disease/depression/birth defects to this drug have been around for years but it was only recalled last year. If it was a case of sueing the NHS I wouldn't do it, because sueing people who spend their lives helping others is a dick move, pure and simple.

Sure I might win some money, but that money could have been spent keeping someone alive. A pharmaceutical company, on the other hand, is a profit-based organization, and who has has been (seemingly) negligent. I have no problem taking their money.

Thanks for your opinions though, I'd rather people were honest if they think I'm a cock

You want to sue the drugs company? I must have misread. If your the only one suffering due to the drugs then you'd struggle to succeed. If others have had the same experience as you then you would want to file a class action lawsuit. Basically a group of people who have suffered in the same way have a better chance than a stand-alone case.

 

[Malyc]

It sounds like you have a legitimate case, at least legitimate enough that you should consult a lawyer.

Remember, seeking compensation isn't "frivolous" if actual physical harm was incurred, it's only frivolous if you're taking advantage of the law to try to make money, that damages society.

Like the guy who tried to get in on the Toyota accelerator problem. He was driving a Prius, which doesnt have the problem of pedals sticking, and he had been caught trying to do similiar scams at least twice before.

Dont do stuff like that, it just costs the consumer more in the long run, because the companies have to raise the costs of the products to be able to cover the lawsuits.

 

[SonicWaffle]

Well the fact is in some cases you're expected to read the pamphlet that comes with drugs so again if one of the stated side effects is this then you most likely have no case.

And I can't say this often enough. Everyone should talk to a pharmacist before taking a new drug. I don't care how "safe" or "weak" or "over the counter" the drug is. The fact is drugs can have dangerous side effects when taken with other drugs.

Example would be a natural herbal balm that's sold in many pharmacies that reduces the effectiveness of many birth control pills.

It was not mentioned in the pamphlet. After diagnosis, I was informed by doctors that they think about 1 in every 10,000 patients who use accutane/isotretinoin can develop this sort of illness. I did in fact thoroughly discuss side effects with my doctor, because he told me I was unable to drink much alcohol while I took it and I wanted to be certain of exactly how much was safe to consume.

I've also got medical opinions from three or four doctors, obviously I haven't asked them for a copy but all the relevant details should be in my file.

finally, awesome avatar. Hogfather?

 

[SonicWaffle]

You want to sue the drugs company? I must have misread. If your the only one suffering due to the drugs then you'd struggle to succeed. If others have had the same experience as you then you would want to file a class action lawsuit. Basically a group of people who have suffered in the same way have a better chance than a stand-alone case.

As I said in response to another poster, the company have already had to pay out $33 million in damages over this drug, recall the product, and have another 5000 lawsuits pending. I'm not the only one.

 

[lacktheknack]

Hmmm....



Wow, looks like vomit. Delicious.

Wait a while to see if the condition improves, if it doesn't, then sue.

 

[CloggedDonkey]

Get a second opinion first. Have another doctor look into it. If he says that the other doctor has done something wrong that has resulted in this not going away, or in fact being the reason as to why it happened, then sue.

However, there is a possibility that you can be blamed for it all, and so I suggest that you do heavy research on the matter before even thinking about suing.

I'm working on it, but it seems like the local hospitals are shut down. Nobody is answering phones. Possibly the start of the zombie apocalypse, or they're just winding down for Easter

this fall, Jesus rises again to absolve... your brains!
sorry, just had to say that

anyway, I would say do some research and see if anyone else has had similar experiences. is there are other things like it, then there is a good chance that it is a known defect in the product, or at least a problem that needs to be brought to light.

Dude, there were three high-profile cases already based around this. The judges have already awarded $33 million in damages, with about 5000 cases pending. I think I can safely say other people have experienced the same problem

well then yeah you should sue. you kind of deserve some money for the possibility of leaving a red toilet in your wake where ever you go.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

You want to sue the drugs company? I must have misread. If your the only one suffering due to the drugs then you'd struggle to succeed. If others have had the same experience as you then you would want to file a class action lawsuit. Basically a group of people who have suffered in the same way have a better chance than a stand-alone case.

As I said in response to another poster, the company have already had to pay out $33 million in damages over this drug, recall the product, and have another 5000 lawsuits pending. I'm not the only one.

You might have a case then. However, drug companies have freakin' Sith lords as advocates, any money you may win will be chewed up instantly by the lawyer that is good enough to take them down. Depends on how badly you want to make a point.

 

[Eldarion]

I can see you wining this case pretty easy also, buy chipotle away.

Someone had to make the reference.

 

[pffh]

Well the fact is in some cases you're expected to read the pamphlet that comes with drugs so again if one of the stated side effects is this then you most likely have no case.

And I can't say this often enough. Everyone should talk to a pharmacist before taking a new drug. I don't care how "safe" or "weak" or "over the counter" the drug is. The fact is drugs can have dangerous side effects when taken with other drugs.

Example would be a natural herbal balm that's sold in many pharmacies that reduces the effectiveness of many birth control pills.

It was not mentioned in the pamphlet. After diagnosis, I was informed by doctors that they think about 1 in every 10,000 patients who use accutane/isotretinoin can develop this sort of illness. I did in fact thoroughly discuss side effects with my doctor, because he told me I was unable to drink much alcohol while I took it and I wanted to be certain of exactly how much was safe to consume.

I've also got medical opinions from three or four doctors, obviously I haven't asked them for a copy but all the relevant details should be in my file.

finally, awesome avatar. Hogfather?

If it wasn't a stated side effect then yeah I would at least talk to a lawyer about this. But doctors usually don't know everything about a drugs side effect or how it interacts with other drugs you better talk to pharmacologists for that.

Avatar: Thank you, it was a black and white picture but someone coloured it and added the holly and other christmas things to it for the escapist christmas theme of 2008 (the theme was holly) for me.

You might have a case then. However, drug companies have freakin' Sith lords as advocates, any money you may win will be chewed up instantly by the lawyer that is good enough to take them down. Depends on how badly you want to make a point.

This man is correct. Trust me I have seen the legal departments of drug companies they are huge and evil, very evil.

 

[Flames66]

I would normally say no. In your circumstances however I feel it could be justified. The question is were they responsible for not recognising that you might react in this way or was it unpredictable?

 

[SonicWaffle]

I would normally say no. In your circumstances however I feel it could be justified. The question is were they responsible for not recognising that you might react in this way or was it unpredictable?

Well, going by the number of claims and the fact that several years worth of studies seem to show a link between the drug and some nasty problems, I'd say they're responsible for leaving it on the market as long as they did.

 

[Flames66]

I would normally say no. In your circumstances however I feel it could be justified. The question is were they responsible for not recognising that you might react in this way or was it unpredictable?

Well, going by the number of claims and the fact that several years worth of studies seem to show a link between the drug and some nasty problems, I'd say they're responsible for leaving it on the market as long as they did.

Sounds like you probably are justified. I can't say categorically either way because I am not a lawyer (never, no no no), I do not know your circumstances and because I do not try to tell other people what to do with their lives.

At least your not one of those guys who say "I didn't support my ladder properly, fell off and broke my spine. Turns out that there was a broken paving slap under it that hadn't been repaired for 128 years because it wasn't a risk to anyone, I now have £500000000000 compensation from the city council!"

 

[Darkwolf9]

Typically I don't believe in law suits of the sueing nature unless one party causes harm to another. With that said I believe you should only ask for a reasonable pay back and not some b.s. sum of money. I don't know you or how much distress you were under, but you don't deserve to become a millionaire over some horrible shits. You should however be given some money for being tricked by some of the most evil individuals on the face of this Earth. I'm looking at you pharmaceutical companies.