In Skyward Sword, Zelda isn't in need until right at the end when Link fucks up. It's rather surprising that there is no Chick in need trope in this Zelda game. Tho Wind Waker was also going that way giving us Tetra who was rather independent and a strong character. I like how it didn't feel forced like in many games that try to force gender equality just for the sake of it, rather than for a stronger character.Joccaren said:
The heart and the lungs are connected. It would still be inaccurate to attribute the traits of one to the other; the heart does not take in and process oxygen for distribution.Yopaz said:
Uh, okay, I guess. So, what about Link being female renders her incapable of getting the Triforce and stopping Ganon?Yopaz said:
Except yes, it is. If you're both condemning the idea of a female Link on the grounds of bragging and simultaneously claiming that the only acceptable reason to have a female (or gay, or religious, or fat) character is because the plot demands it, then you are phrasing it as an either-or situation. By definition, that excludes the possibility of being motivated by a desire to, say, offer an olive branch to neglected minorities in the gaming community.Yopaz said:
Okay. So, what about Hyrule makes it nonsensical for a woman to pick up the Master Sword?Yopaz said:
Oh, knock it off. If you think the conversation is genuinely futile, then say so at the beginning of your post and let that stand. Don't make all your arguments (and incidentally, please know I noticed how you ignored the questions I directly asked you in the post you quoted) and then say the whole discussion is futile, but don't pretend this is all a waste of your time when you're the one who chose to spend your time continuing the conversation. It comes off as a cheap, sleazy attempt to get in the last word while simultaneously claiming the moral high ground by playing the martyr card, inviting us to admire and pity you for suffering at the hands of those less enlightened than you.Yopaz said:
I'll admit it wouldn't affect the gameplay a whole lot, if at all, but where it'd be a shakeup is in the area of narrative, which definitely needs a shake-up that isn't "You're playing as Link but this other girl with phenomenal cosmic power is the real main character." Hell, a female Link is definitely the kind of thing they'd hand to a writer who intends to actually go somewhere with the character instead of this "He can talk but never gets dialog for tradition's sake" bullcrap.TizzytheTormentor said:
My problem with this idea is that Zelda is pretty much always the princess (and an only child at that), and bears the Triforce of Wisdom. She's not supposed to be going off on adventures and slaying the servants of darkness, and it would be nothing but irresponsible if she did.
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That's actually a great idea. Imagine a game based around encounters, but each encounter is influenced by gender norms of the certain society. Humans might be more equal, Zoro would have patriorhage and the elfs would have female domination or something like that. Human revolution showed us that talking a person out of suicide is as interesting as fighting a 20 foot monster. If there was an adventure game based not only around action and puzzles, but well made conversations that change how the game plays and also exploring ideas of gender in society.Exius Xavarus said:
Zelda isn't quite that deep. I used the Gerudo as an example because of their explicitly female population. Gender in Zelda is a lot more shallow than you're describing, especially when it comes to the Gerudo. Not female? Boot to the head. I mean, come on, they have one male every 100 years. Are we to believe that one male is to have sex with all those Gerudo women for a hundred years, and more until the new male is old enough for such a thing? That was sorta just left by the wayside never to be explained. I don't think Nintendo's putting much of an emphasis on sex itself. xP Now, it wouldn't be used for other various things in the game because beyond the Gerudo or the pirates in Termina Bay, gender really doesn't mean a lick. I was speaking strictly about gameplay and used the Gerudo as my example because they are rather black and white about it.Level 7 Dragon said:
Fun Fact, one of the gossip stones says that the Gerudos come to Hyrule town to look for boyfriends. Guess their genes are REALLY dominate.Exius Xavarus said:
