Poll: Should Paedophiles be allowed a Second Chance?

[The Hairminator]

Once- Prison, rehabilitation. Monitoring.
Twice- Death or locked away for life.

This is for actual rape. No matter if it is to adults or not.
In my opinion the same thing goes for murder, although for murder you would go away for a longer time.

 

[Hijuice]

Umm tis a difficult question because IT IS a sexual orientation, as much as being straight or homosexual is so its debatable if you really can change. Of course there are many offenders that have turned their lives around and gone clean.

I hate the type 'kill them all' what unsensitive thinking... and to think most of you like that are probably Christian... well doesn't the bible say give a second chance? Not that i care, Christians tend to spend alot of time in contradiction.

The real answer is yes of course they deserve a second chance after all there is a reason they are what they are and i bet alot of it has to do with Modern Day Society, something we are all responsible for?

I wouldn't be supprised if the readily available access of porn creates some sort of psycological change.

 

[Lunar Shadow]

I am reading this and am steadily losing faith in humanity. And it's not because of those that wanting to give child molesters a second chance. It's the amount of people who advocate fucking torture and those who are so full of bloodlust that they can't forgive. I am not even Christian but I understand the concept of "He who is without sin throw the first stone." Even iiif you aren't Christian, it is a good thing to follow, as hatred and revenge only begets more hatred and revenge. Is child molestation a heinous act? Of course. Should someone who has served their time be harassed and threatened by people who are so filled with hatred that he can't live his life? Hell no, he served his time and those that are pretty much threatening his life should be thrown in jail.

 

[Ilovechocolatemilk]

It really depends on the circumstances. If we're talking about a monster like Josef Fritzl, then hell no. He deserves the death penalty and more. Yet, the problem with pedophilia, especially in a country like America, is the fact that they are this generation's bogeymen. Because of this, a lot of people who get labeled as sex offenders (especially those who end up being labeled as such under some unfortunate circumstances) get treated very poorly by the general population quite unjustly.

Let me explain, I've seen cases where teenagers are charged with statutory rape even though they committed no wrong; their only "crime" was the fact that they were an 18 year old dating a 15 year old. Yet, due to the stigma of any even remotely resembling pedophilia in this country, those teenagers will be treated in the same manner as the creepy 50 year old man who went around kidnapping children and raping them in his van. The reason for this is the sex offender registry and Megan's Law website allowing anyone to view the sex offenders in their area. Since the website does not detail the exact nature of their crime, those unfortunate teenagers will get persecuted just the same as other people who might actually deserve it.

Statutory rape laws in this country are so fucked up right now. Yet, we are a country that loves witch hunts and when it comes to pedophiles, they are this generation's Salem witches. The sad thing is the fact that when it comes to punishment of sex offenders, so-called liberals in this country can be equally, if not more barbaric, than their conservative opponents. Thus, it's an issue that's unlikely to be addressed any time soon.

 

[Charley]

Okay, so I only got two and a half pages in, but this is all -very- similar hatred-for-your-fellow man type stuff.

Child molestation isn't legal, we've established that. Being attracted to younger/underage people is legal but unpopular - we've established that too.

I wonder what people think is worse, child molestation or genocide. Pol Pot essentially offed 2.5 million people and got house arrest. Hitler shot himself, a lot of people let him get on with it for rather a while. Mull that one over, I believe it lends a little bit of perspective to things.

This is one of those topics where the overwhelming zeitgeist kicks in at the start, and whilst maybe not intentionally a mass flame war/zero-intellect argument, will always end up that way.

People have strong feelings about the innocence of children, even when teen/young pregnancies are on the up (which would suggest that children aren't so innocent, wouldn't it?) and that gets triggered instantly, resulting in a 'burn the witch' mob.

Before anyone gets too angry and thinks I'm suggesting that sexually active children are 'asking for it', I'm not. Relax.

Go away, if you want an ultra-simple look into things, read Lolita. Give a thought to how you'd feel if someone in your family - male or female, admitted to you that they had abused someone - would you stab at their groin with a kitchen knife? Now ask yourself that again and don't lie to yourself, just to be sure.

It's difficult, but this one takes a hell of a lot of effort for people to swallow the blind hate and come back with a slightly more informed opinion.

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

forgive me if i'm wrong & possibly ill educated. But I've heard in belgium, sex offenders are given an option to have part of their balls removed which COMPLETELY removes all sex drive. It causes your body to stop producing a certain chemical or hormone or something. After this they are given a much reduced sentence.
Some may say this is against human rights but I believe these type of offences are assaults on other peoples human rights so should kind of void the offenders rights. Sorry got a bit tangled in my sentence structure then

 

[mkg]

No, if that is what you are attracted to sexually, you can never change it. That's like asking me to stop being attracted to large breasts. I mean of course the individuals who are attracted to CHILDREN, a 16 or 17 year old is physically an adult and there will be natural feelings of attraction there. But someone who would force a young child into such an act is always going to feel that way. These people can't be allowed into normal society, and if they ever have children of their own they will probably end up fucking them up for life. I think the best solution would be to make harsher penalties for misconduct with a young child. This guy is out after only 14 years for kidnapping and repeatedly raping three kids? Ridiculous. He should be looking at parole at age 70, when he at least will be almost harmless.

 

[MasterSqueak]

Knee-jerk reactions.

They are all over these threads.

 

[Logic 0]

To be honest I could go eiether way but spending 14 years in jail for child porn should set the man straight.

 

[DigitalSushi]

blimmey!

Unfortunately the reason pedo's are that way is because the Limbic System in their brain is wired in differently to us normal people, the Limbic system is what connects the brain up basically.

So when you see a hot girl the limbic system is what sends the lust message through the brain, and when you see a child the limbic system is what sends the correct info through your brain to make you want to look after them.

These people are wired in the wrong way round, born like this.

 

[G1eet]

No.

I would maybe forgive thieves, and even murderers. But rapists and paedophiles to me are the worst kind of criminal. They should all be shot on sight, or spend the rest of their days rotting in a tiny cell.

I have to agree with you on that one. But if they seem like they are ready to be released, they should undergo extreme therapy, possibly even brainwashing/hypnotization.

Hey, whatever works.

i think chemical castration should be factored in
the idea is that children are the focus of a paedophile's sex drive so if we take away the sex drive the children might be safer

with chemical castration, i think there is a chance
without chemical castration they will simply re-offend at some point

so im casting my vote for the middle, because i think that neutering should be factored in

That I am in favor of, because I've read studies that show that some males, when neutered, have an incredibly lessened sex drive.

I'm not sure about females, but then again, I've never really heard of female paedophiles that much.

Edit:

No, if that is what you are attracted to sexually, you can never change it. That's like asking me to stop being attracted to large breasts. I mean of course the individuals who are attracted to CHILDREN, a 16 or 17 year old is physically an adult and there will be natural feelings of attraction there. But someone who would force a young child into such an act is always going to feel that way. These people can't be allowed into normal society, and if they ever have children of their own they will probably end up fucking them up for life. I think the best solution would be to make harsher penalties for misconduct with a young child. This guy is out after only 14 years for kidnapping and repeatedly raping three kids? Ridiculous. He should be looking at parole at age 70, when he at least will be almost harmless.

Agreed, because it's much easier to run from this:
http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Herbert-family-guy-684449_800_600.gif

 

[GothmogII]

Knee-jerk reactions.

They are all over these threads.

That and I've counted maybe four or five people in the thread who are taking the time to make the distinction between a paedophile and a child molester, the attraction and the act. The rest seem to be taking the stance that paedophile = child molester, and while I won't deny that many paedophiles -do- go on to molest children there are people who abuse children as a forceful act purely for the sense of power it inspires rather than any sexual feelings they have toward the victim, much the same way as rapists.

If a person is found to be a paedophile, and has -not- molested. assaulted or even viewed photographic or video footage of a child, then with possibly being recommended to seek help, they should not be placed under any sort of duress, beyond maybe keeping a cursory eye on them, and this includes -not- placing them on a sex offender's register. To do otherwise implies that you are be punished not for something you have done, but what you are presumed to do in the future.

If they have committed these acts, then by all means, they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, I'm a believer of rehabilitation, and if it means that a convicted child molester or rapist can serve their time, and prove that they've been cured and can suitably be re-integrated into society, then by all means, let that be their 'second chance'.

I should also make a note for drawn or fictional 'child porn', as I said in a thread on the matter some time ago on the Escapist, I don't consider viewing or reading said material worthy of criminal punishment, and a caution at that if police are to take an interest. The fact is, unlike photographic pornography, no children are harmed by the production of such material, and, although one could argue that it provides a 'stepping stone' for paedophiles to take action based on their attractions, by that same token it can also provide a 'release' for said people and actually prevent them from taking action.

 

[CNKFan]

Sure I'll forgive them, if they pass the Gauntlet. The Gauntlet includes bear traps, fire pits, snipers, crocodiles, and a pendulum axe at the door that is next to impossible to pass.
It dosen't matter though, there will be a guy with a gun past the door to shoot the guy in the face.

 

[Pifflestick]

I have to say that I agree with the people trying to firebomb him. Pedophiles are not human. Once you have commited pedophilia you are no more than an animal. In fact, I strongly support the death penalty for pedophiles.

 

[wolfy098]

In the case of a clear and obvious child molester or sex offender, it is important to realize that these behaviors cannot change.

This is complete bullshit and you have no idea what you're talking about.

Semitendon is right

but only in a few cases

Most of the time that view is complete bullshit

 

[Nickolai77]

A lot of people seem to see child molesting as worse than murder for some reason o.0

eh, society's going through a phase.

Anyway, my stance is that there is nothing wrong about being a pedophile. That is, being attracted to children. The act of having sex, or sexually abusing children however is very wrong. By children, i mean those that are pre-pubescent. Having sex or doing sexual acts with those under the age of sex consent is wrong, but should be dealt with less severely than having sex with a pre-pubaescent child. Really, context needs to be noted. If an eighteen year old has sex with a fifteen year old then the eighteen year old just deserve a caution, if a thirty five year old has sex with a thriteen year old, that is more serious. Context is important, te judge and jury should use their common sense here. (Maybe i'm asking to much here lol)

A lot of people are talking about treatment of sex offenders and killing them if they re-offend. If they have re-offended they should not have been released in the first place, really they need proper psychological treatment, if they are cured then they can be released and monitored, if they are not cured then they should not be released at all and kept in an asylum indefinitely until they are cured or become too old to pose a threat to society.