Poll: Should people wait until they're married to have sex?
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Both sides get the same vote. It isn't the girl's fault that the boy is always going to vote "yes", and thus feels like he doesn't really get a vote.bahumat42 said:
People should be generally polite towards each, not be ignorant and more less not break laws. That's about where "shoulds" end. Everything else falls under personal preference. And what if You don't want to get married, like ever? Because marriage is more problems than benefits?
Considering I think marriage has mostly lost its meaning, you know considering what is it..50% divorce rate in the states?. No. Marriage used to mean something, now? Not so much. And most of the things you mentioned arent affected by marriage, STDs, unexpected pregnancy..these things dont magically go away when you get married and most of the time people dont know they are infected until problems arise. Similar with unexpected pregnancy..they are unexpected and happened by accident.MajorTomServo said:
Sex isn't sacred, it is a biological function just like taking a piss or a crap is and no culture/religion to my knowledge holds those 2 things sacred. Yes sex requires two people so it is a bit different than taking a crap but its still a normal part of biology. The most established rules of most religions practiced today arose at least 1000 years ago when society was way different and religion was an important thing to keep society functioning, today religion is no longer needed, I don't see why people hold on to traditions that are 1000 years out of sync with reality. Sex is one of the most pleasurable things a human can do and religion just ruins it, sex might be better when its with someone you love but it is still damn enjoyable when its just a 1 night stand.
Well, certainly not until marriage. I mean, I think it's better to wait until you're in a serious relationship, but I don't think there's much wrong with just casual sex, and it's not my place to tell others what's right and wrong.
No.
Why? Because sexual chemistry is important in a serious relationship. You don't want to find out you're completely sexually incompatible after you've went into the serious (and legal) obligation that is marriage.
Leads to an unhappy marriage, one or both partners trying to find satisfaction elsewhere, that sort of thing. No one wants that.
But eh, people can do whatever they like. Doesn't make it any less stupid, but it ain't my business.
Why? Because sexual chemistry is important in a serious relationship. You don't want to find out you're completely sexually incompatible after you've went into the serious (and legal) obligation that is marriage.
Leads to an unhappy marriage, one or both partners trying to find satisfaction elsewhere, that sort of thing. No one wants that.
But eh, people can do whatever they like. Doesn't make it any less stupid, but it ain't my business.
Casual Sex is awesome.
Secondly, how on earth can you marry someone without knowing if you're sexually compatible?
Yes, sexual compatibility is fucking important(geddit?), anyone who says otherwise knows not of what they speak.
Don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their own choices in life, however that doesn't stop me from looking at the choices of other people and going "what the fuck?"... I have similar opinions about people who enjoy marmite.
The reason being that, in the Western World, we (myself included, 25 years old, unmarried, no children), put off having children quite late, and even then those of us in the middle and upper classes tend to only have one or possibly two children.
The Lower Classes and migrants from other cultures, breed like rats. The end result is a lot of ethnic and social tensions, economic meltdown, which results in Riots, protests and strike action (see: Britain this year).
Now, this is all just a personal opinion, but I think we need more people coming out of University to have babies - children with educated parents are more likely to be well educated themselves, those same parents have more options than they used to about working (so they can still put their own education to work), and ultimately they're producing a child which will contribute to the economy, have higher earning power, and generally not grow up to be like this:
http://molempire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/scumbagrioters1.jpg
... Meh, Rant over (and yes I'm aware how this whole rant may be seen as an oversimplification with many glaring omissions, but I've yet to be given a research grant to produce the necessary thesis to fully investigate this hypothesis.
Secondly, how on earth can you marry someone without knowing if you're sexually compatible?
Yes, sexual compatibility is fucking important(geddit?), anyone who says otherwise knows not of what they speak.
Don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their own choices in life, however that doesn't stop me from looking at the choices of other people and going "what the fuck?"... I have similar opinions about people who enjoy marmite.
Oddly enough given the above - that seems fine to me.
The reason being that, in the Western World, we (myself included, 25 years old, unmarried, no children), put off having children quite late, and even then those of us in the middle and upper classes tend to only have one or possibly two children.
The Lower Classes and migrants from other cultures, breed like rats. The end result is a lot of ethnic and social tensions, economic meltdown, which results in Riots, protests and strike action (see: Britain this year).
Now, this is all just a personal opinion, but I think we need more people coming out of University to have babies - children with educated parents are more likely to be well educated themselves, those same parents have more options than they used to about working (so they can still put their own education to work), and ultimately they're producing a child which will contribute to the economy, have higher earning power, and generally not grow up to be like this:
http://molempire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/scumbagrioters1.jpg
... Meh, Rant over (and yes I'm aware how this whole rant may be seen as an oversimplification with many glaring omissions, but I've yet to be given a research grant to produce the necessary thesis to fully investigate this hypothesis.
Vaccinations are not available for most STDs, and every form of birth control has a failure rate. If people want to be super cautious, what's wrong with that?LoFr3Eq said:
People can have their own opinions without forcing others to blindly obey. Having an opinion doesn't defy "to each their own."Ghengis John said:
Granted. I was merely saying, those were ADDITIONAL reasons; my primary reason was religious. And anyway, abstinence is the only -guaranteed 100% effective- prevention. (Yes, I know many of the options are 99% or so...)Do4600 said:
Edit: And it didn't work out so hot for me, either; I'm getting divorced. Although oddly enough, the reasons for it have nothing at all to do with sex...
its the own persons choice to have sex or not its not dependent on religion or anything i personally dont believe in waiting but hey if someone wants to.. thats completely up to them.
Depends on the situation. As I think the belief of no sex before marriage is an outdated thing, it actually kinda does have a little bit of merit nowadays.
People are jumping into bed left and right with each other, and divorce rates are through the roof. I think if a couple decided to wait until after marriage, it might actually strengthen the marriage. You already love the person for what they are and great sex has absolutely no say in it. Getting married only means it's gonna get better (or more weird if everything goes wrong).
I'm certainly not gonna wait. I honestly prefer that my first time is a meaningless sling while I'm drunk. I feel like I need some practice before I settle down.
People are jumping into bed left and right with each other, and divorce rates are through the roof. I think if a couple decided to wait until after marriage, it might actually strengthen the marriage. You already love the person for what they are and great sex has absolutely no say in it. Getting married only means it's gonna get better (or more weird if everything goes wrong).
I'm certainly not gonna wait. I honestly prefer that my first time is a meaningless sling while I'm drunk. I feel like I need some practice before I settle down.
Yes.
While the idea of marriage is becoming less and less relevant, I'd say it should wait until you've at least become common law. The idea here isn't based on religious values but rather that you've given the relationship time to grow strong on proper merits and values, rather than for reasons of lust.
While the idea of marriage is becoming less and less relevant, I'd say it should wait until you've at least become common law. The idea here isn't based on religious values but rather that you've given the relationship time to grow strong on proper merits and values, rather than for reasons of lust.
Abstinence until you are married is a ridiculous, artificial concept put in place by the major religions, who I rarely see eye to eye with. By all means, if you want to avoid one of life's great pleasures until some corporation tells you its ok then knock yourself out. Just don't expect me to make any sense of it, or to follow your lead. Not that I could follow it now anyway.
The reason for those divorce rates going through the roof is more likely to be a result of the no sex before marriage rule than people having sex early in their relationship. If two people get married very quickly for the sex, then they'll soon find that they made a mistake getting married, whereas if they are allowed to do whatever they want,then they won't marry before they know if they are right for each other.JoesshittyOs said: