Sadly this is true, but it bugs me that they keep putting out ass because they know people will buy ass.ZombieNeith said:
Imagine how cool they could make a 2D Sonic game look and play with today's technology and console power...
It's depressing!
Poll: Should Sega stop making games that have anything to do with the sonic universe?
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Imagine how cool they could make a 2D Sonic game look and play with today's technology and console power...
It's depressing!
Wishful thinking, I daresay. Ethical implications aside, this is making them shit-tons of money. I don't think the noobs are going to suddenly get wise to their jig any time soon.Kyletacullar said:
Quite so. Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure were so damn close to the sweet ambrosia that the first three games were.miracleofsound said:
I voted "yes" because, I mean... Sonic? Who gives a s**t? Every game past the second was crap, why even care about the new games. If you ignore them, they will go away. Actually, they may even try and make a decent game if everyone stops buying the bad ones.
ZombieNeith said:
but the SADDEST part is that it IS wishful thinking which is why sonic and his fucking sonic team need to crawl into a ditch a DIE!
We need more Sonic games like Rush and half of Unleashed (guess which half), because they seem not only to gain better reviews, but, well, they're just more fun. Secret Rings seemed to be going on the right track, but Black Knight, from the looks of it, has just ripped apart any progress there. Change a couple of things from the Rush series (just minor things, like playable Super Sonic in the stages) and it'll be a great improvement.
One thing that majorly annoys me about the way they're making games though... GIMMICKS. They're not damned necessary! Mario games use them rather often, true, but that's because Mario's main games are good enough to justify it! Sega should focus on making the games actually GOOD first before getting too pretty with their stupid little tricks.
That said, even though I don't mind a few of the new characters, a serious trimming back of useless hangers-on is needed. I don't want to run through Green Hill Zone while worrying about some whiny silver ***** with a marijuana leaf for a head. >_<
One thing that majorly annoys me about the way they're making games though... GIMMICKS. They're not damned necessary! Mario games use them rather often, true, but that's because Mario's main games are good enough to justify it! Sega should focus on making the games actually GOOD first before getting too pretty with their stupid little tricks.
That said, even though I don't mind a few of the new characters, a serious trimming back of useless hangers-on is needed. I don't want to run through Green Hill Zone while worrying about some whiny silver ***** with a marijuana leaf for a head. >_<
The biggest problem in my eyes isn't Sonic, the franchise, the characters, but instead Sonic Team/The makers. They are so clearly out of it when making Sonic 2006, Shadow, Unleashed, and so forth that they clearly have no idea what makes Sonic a Sonic game anymore.
If they are burned out or just don't care anymore and doing it for the sake of making more games/are told to, then they need to stop. Give it to Dimps as they seemed to have fun making it and came close to being right when making it on their own (give or take).
Give it to someone who knows that Sonic is about stage design, running, and being able to find different paths in a platforming sense with minor collection along the way (Chaos Emeralds).
Don't try to make it an RPG that slows the game to a halt or makes us listen to in asinine store. Don't add new characters just for the sake of gimmicks, especially when you have several hundred already that could do the job as well. Don't make gimmicks thinking that somehow that is what fans want when we complain about the game not being good.
I still believe Sonic games can do well, just as Mario and Contra have. Go back and make a new 16 bit game if you have to remind yourself of the joy, like that of Mega Man 9 or your own Sonic Advance titles.
Just don't say "we know what fans want now, a magical hippo that shoots rainbows so that Sonic can transverse between Light and Dark world" or some such nonsense. Say "we listened to fans, are wish to make the game more like the 16 bit and handheld titles you loved so dearly).
If it has to be a 3D game, for Egg's sake, don't just make a brand new game reusing or remaking the same damn engine Sonic Adventure had. That was good for the day, but that's long ago and much better tools and techniques have been made. Ask Nintendo or Naughty Dog for help if you need it for 3D.
If you can't do anything other then more gimicks, more of a mess. Just end Sonic as anything other then a company mascot you re-release titles of.
If they are burned out or just don't care anymore and doing it for the sake of making more games/are told to, then they need to stop. Give it to Dimps as they seemed to have fun making it and came close to being right when making it on their own (give or take).
Give it to someone who knows that Sonic is about stage design, running, and being able to find different paths in a platforming sense with minor collection along the way (Chaos Emeralds).
Don't try to make it an RPG that slows the game to a halt or makes us listen to in asinine store. Don't add new characters just for the sake of gimmicks, especially when you have several hundred already that could do the job as well. Don't make gimmicks thinking that somehow that is what fans want when we complain about the game not being good.
I still believe Sonic games can do well, just as Mario and Contra have. Go back and make a new 16 bit game if you have to remind yourself of the joy, like that of Mega Man 9 or your own Sonic Advance titles.
Just don't say "we know what fans want now, a magical hippo that shoots rainbows so that Sonic can transverse between Light and Dark world" or some such nonsense. Say "we listened to fans, are wish to make the game more like the 16 bit and handheld titles you loved so dearly).
If it has to be a 3D game, for Egg's sake, don't just make a brand new game reusing or remaking the same damn engine Sonic Adventure had. That was good for the day, but that's long ago and much better tools and techniques have been made. Ask Nintendo or Naughty Dog for help if you need it for 3D.
If you can't do anything other then more gimicks, more of a mess. Just end Sonic as anything other then a company mascot you re-release titles of.
That depends. Are there still eight-year-olds naieve enough to want a Sonic game even though all of them have been terrible for ten years? If the answer is yes, then Sega should still make Sonic games because there is money in the business.
I fully agree. Update the old game and re-release it. It works for Pokemon and Resident Evil, why not Sonic? Using 3-D doesn't automatically make a game fun. Sometimes it kills it.messy said:
I think Sega should focs on some of its abused licenses. In my opinion, some of the very greatest series of games have come from them; Panzer Dragoon, Jet Set Radio, Sega Rally, Super Monkey Ball, Virtua Cop, House of the Dead, Chu Chu Rocket, Nights and hundreds of other Megadrive games that never even made it to 3D. Whilst some of these games have made it to the 7th generation, they were never really at the forefront of Sega's concern. However, I think with some priority rearrangement, we could see better iterations of these series. Gunstar Heroes remake is what i pray for, along with a new gen Panzer Dragoon.
Name the best Sonic game in your opinion. If that game was released after Sonic Adventure, Congratulations! You either are:
A. A figment of my imagination,
B. No longer fit to live in a sane society
C. Working for Sega.
A. A figment of my imagination,
B. No longer fit to live in a sane society
C. Working for Sega.
You're onto something there. I'd be much more likely to buy that than sonic unleashed.Lekonua said:
Sonic is about fast and funny, the games need to reflect that and not come up with daft gimics like the were-hog or Shadow acting all gansta.
It should be axed but it won't be. For starters Sonic is the mascot for Sega and Sonic Team. However the main reason is money; a game series is only ever axed for one of two reasons all of which often lead back to money. The most common instances being;
1) The developer becomes bankrupt
2) It becomes unprofitable to continue to make new games
3) The developer is bought out and made to focus on other projects within teh new company
4) The strength of a games franchise and how much revenue its producing
5) Directives from management to end a game series
6) The Original craetor not wanting any future games to be made.
1) The developer becomes bankrupt
2) It becomes unprofitable to continue to make new games
3) The developer is bought out and made to focus on other projects within teh new company
4) The strength of a games franchise and how much revenue its producing
5) Directives from management to end a game series
6) The Original craetor not wanting any future games to be made.
Kick sonic team out and it will be fire, i bet someone else can do a better job with the hog.
WAit sonic heroes was the only 3d sonic done right. ITs is just tje chaotic and freaking rose teams that ruined the game if they had focused on hero and dark it would had been fine. also shadow the headhog would had been nice if he DIDN'T HAVE TO S-L-O-W-D-O-W-N TO SHOOT... WTH?
WAit sonic heroes was the only 3d sonic done right. ITs is just tje chaotic and freaking rose teams that ruined the game if they had focused on hero and dark it would had been fine. also shadow the headhog would had been nice if he DIDN'T HAVE TO S-L-O-W-D-O-W-N TO SHOOT... WTH?
Take Sonic Unleashed, cut out the werehog levels, shorten some of the cutscenes, and make the QTEs less brutal, and you have an awesome game.
Sega would've gotten it right if they just didn't feel the urge to add some stupid gimmick to make the game longer. For some reason, they think that it's a problem when a game that's about running fast is over quickly.
Sega would've gotten it right if they just didn't feel the urge to add some stupid gimmick to make the game longer. For some reason, they think that it's a problem when a game that's about running fast is over quickly.
Actually the only next-gen console I own is a Wii. I also own a DS. I just think that it's the height of irony that a bunch of Nintendo fanboys are in here saying "lulz Sonic sux" when Nintendo's been doing the exact same thing to its franchises for just as long, but has it hailed as genius just because it's Nintendo.Phlaren1 said: