Poll: Should smoking be made illegal?

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Ashcrexl

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hmmm, all this talk of prohibition gets me thinking. isnt that essentially what we're doing to harder drugs such as coke and heroin? its illegal, but people still find a way around it. maybe banning things that people do to themselves is just a stupid idea. we should be using capitalism on their asses!
 

aps1984

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tris4992 said:
yes, people make fuzz about every single little problem which makes 'the government waste THEIR (tax) money". Yet everybody forgets the shitload of money being poured into healthcare (in my country everybody gets it as its government funded). Newsflash, cancerpatients cost alot of healthcare money which comes out of taxes which comes out of your pocket.

So ? smoking still okay with everybody ? Not with me, because that means MY money is being wasted on smokers for something they brought upon themselves.

My proposal ? Either a) ban smoking or b) remove ALL healthcare support AND life insurence (because imo smoking = suicide) of verified smokers.
smokers pay far more taxes to the government than they ever take back from health care.
 

Nueemann

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Perhaps in public places, but making it completely illegal would likely only cause more controversy then it would solve.
 

Zeromaeus

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Merkavar said:
Zeromaeus said:
Well, given my breathing problems, I really don't like it when people smoke in public. I don't really care that they smoke, they're free to slowly kill themselves in whatever manner they wish, I just really don't want to be near it.
Tax it heavier maybe. Or restrict it to certain areas when out in public.
I dont like that response. Let them kill themselves like they wont affect you at all, but where I'm from most of these smokers with probably get sick at some point and take up a hospital bed, cost the healthcare system money which is paid by my taxes. So it does affect me.
Then raise the taxes. Greatly raise the taxes. I don't think outlawing the crap would work, though, if that's what you're saying I should say. I don't like tobacco products, but a large percentage of people can't seem to get enough of the stuff. Enough that it would make quite the lucrative underground scene should it ever be made illegal. In a perfect world, it would be illegal, but this world is far from perfect and some people are just too firmly attached to their vices to let it become a better place.
 

Zeromaeus

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aps1984 said:
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EcksTeaSea said:
No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.
But smoking affects everyone around you, while drinking doesn't.
You've obviously not been around many drunk people.
People who drink are fine, if a bit smelly. People who drink in excess are absolutely terrible. There is a difference. Its actually good for you to drink in small amounts at regular intervals. It does something or other for your heart. I forget what.
 

Therumancer

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lettucethesallad said:
I have a friend who's a radical straight edge kid. We had a discussion on facebook the other day on smoking, and the fact that more people in our community have started smoking. My friend is of the opinion that smoking should be made illegal and classed as a drug, and that the state should step in to essentially protect people from themselves.

Me being a libertarian, I argued that people, knowing the dangers of smoking, should choose for themselves if they want to do it or not. I was immediately stormed by an angry mob of facebookers who showed their dislike with indignified comments.

Eager to get to the bottom of this, I thought I'd ask you guys.

Tl;dr: Should smoking be made illegal?
Speaking objectively? Yes it should.

The reason I say this is that I believe there are certain things you can't really "know" until your there. Smoking is one of those things that there is a lot of information about, but at the same time to many people it sounds so unbelievable and panic-written that I don't think many people, especially young adults, really believe it. The scary thing about smoking is that when people start to have problems, a lot of them really want to quit, and then they can't because it's a very powerful addiction.

Of course the problem with this is the same as banning any other behavior of the sort. It's going to take time, resources, and most importantly blood. When something is decided like this morality has to be put aside and a "git R done" attitude has to be taken, or else it's going to fail. Simply put the problem with both the Probition , and the "War On Drugs" is that nobody was willing to do what it took, and pursue things ruthlessly enough. The US ban on Alcohol didn't take all *that* long, not even a single human generation before it was deemed a failure due to the amount of violence and chaos sticking to their guns would have caused. When it comes to drugs, a big part of the problem is again the goverment not being ruthless enough either domestically, or most importantly internationally. A "war on drugs" can be won, "The British Empire" did it, all those huge international drug cartels that were running Opium dens and stuff right up to the beginning of the 20th century got decimated. A lot of people refer to a lot of the British Empire's actions collectively as "The Opium Wars" for a reason. They went into The Middle East, Asia, and other places specifically to break the backs of specific groups of people who were controlling the drug trade, and thus the addicts, and beginning to undermine the goverment due to that amount of power. This is part of what Muslims burning a poppy in the UK (with the rest of their protests) was all about. Nations like Afghanistan are poor and wretched because their only real national resource is poppies (which are used to make Heroin) and they can't export or trade it like they'd want to.

See, there is more to some of these drug wars and such than just the effects on users.

At any rate, in the long term I think banning smoking would be beneficial. Tobacco companies have their fingers into a lot of things nowadays as well due to the sheer amounts of money that they make. I have no illusions about it ever happening because simply put the US at least would never commit to it.
 

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No, because prohibition doesn't work. Making smoking illegal would be the same as making drinking illegal in the 20s, or making marijuana illegal. All you end up with is more crime, and more people clogging up the criminal justice system with petty offenses.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly. I honestly have nothing else to add.
 

Wicky_42

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Nope - enough things are illegal as it is. However, if alcohol taxes are being increased, so should nicotine taxes - they're both social drugs, lets not discriminate here!
 

ActivatorX

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A few years ago, when I was still in school, I always used to light one up near the bus stop.
The bus stop was about 200 meters away from the school. Whenever I was there, I moved away from the stop to the nearest trash cans that had built-in ashtrays.
The distance between the two must've been at least 20 meters.

So one day, I get off the bus, go to my usual spot, and light a mighty fine cigarette.
While I was smoking, I saw an old lady at the bus stop staring at me in disbelief.
She came up to me, and I shit you not, she said I'm a dumbass, bitchass punk, retarded moron and a fucking clown. She coughed and said: "Did you see that? I can feel your fucking smoke eat away my life, you fucking idiot."
"People like you need to be shot and killed, you unbelievable moron." she said.
She then swung her hand towards my face and flicked the cigarette out of my mouth.

I just shrugged it off and walked away.
So I kept seeing that old lady for weeks.
Everytime she'd see me she'd stare at me and insult me.
I eventually broke off my daily routine of lighting one up behind the bus stop.

It's just an experience I'll never forget.
 

Levitas1234

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If smoking were illegal, i would probably suicide bomb the government or shoot up the nearest public area. No joke, nothing puts me in a rage except irrational injustices.
 

TheLefty

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I don't care what people do in their own homes...but I don't want cigarette butts on the streets or have to breathe the air smoker pollute. So, in private places yes, it should be illegal.
 

iblis666

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i dont like it but i wouldnt stop people from using it, what i would do is pass laws that they cant use additives in the making of cigarettes such as arsenic.
 

Private Custard

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No.

Per year in the UK, smokers pay a shitload more in tax than it costs the NHS to treat. That means a nice healthy lump of cash left for the economy.

So basically, if you non-smokers don't want to start filling the gap left by the lack of tax on tobacco, smoking should stay legal. In fact you should thank me for sacrficing my life to improve the quality of yours........and stop bitching about it!!

No more tax though as the figures speak for themselves, we pay enough.

I'm all for the ban on smoking in public buildings, aircraft and bus shelters. Pubs, not so much. Where are all the people when you visit the pub now? Outside. There's no atmosphere left inside. I'll never stop smoking in my car. I've driven for 10 years as a smoker and have never hit a thing, surely if smoking mad driving more dangerous, I should be upseide-down in a ditch by now :/
 

Agayek

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Smoking, as well as every other narcotic, should be 100% legal for anyone to use at any time. The only interference the government should have is to enforce warning labels listing all of the potential side effects for any of them.

If people want to be dumb and kill themselves through narcotics, they should be allowed to.
 

Private Custard

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iblis666 said:
i dont like it but i wouldnt stop people from using it, what i would do is pass laws that they cant use additives in the making of cigarettes such as arsenic.
Now this is an idea that I like!
 

feather240

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Monkfish Acc. said:
No. How the hell else am I going to destroy myself slowly.
Drinking is fun and all but I am getting really fed up with the alcoholism lectures.

Also, quick side-topic. What is more obnoxious. A smoker who is all in your face, or an anti-smoker who won't shut the fuck up.
Now which one are you more likely to encounter.
You deserve a cookie for that.