Well I don't know about others but I used to play TF2 and one shot body shots annoyed me to no end. Was part of the reason I stopped playing. But to answer the questions I think it certainly should. A 50 cal bullet slicing through your internal organs is usually enough to kill you I'd say.Professor James said:
Poll: Should sniper rifles be able to kill people in one bodyshot.
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Yes, but only if all long range scopes are removed for balance purposes, and it takes 2-3 seconds to aim down the sights, and they are all bolt action. Otherwise, it is simply OP in many games, and anyone with half a brain would pick the 1 hit kill, long distance, quick aim, semi auto weapon over the 3-4 hit kill, short-mid range, quick aim, full auto weapon.
However, since when has BF had a 1 hit body shot kill from snipers?
However, since when has BF had a 1 hit body shot kill from snipers?
You do realize that the sniper can only one-shot certain classes to the body. And even then, he still needs to charge up first.A Free Man said:
Yeh I know that, but since the class I mainly played as was sniper I was one of the classes that could be killed in one shot. And I if anything I think the charge up is horrible. It promotes camping, and is basically just annoying. I would much rather a system where there is no charge up, if your good enough to hit the head they die in one, otherwise you have to hit them again as a punishment for missing the head (for most classes).Professor James said:
Yes, that's just great, good for you, if you can't handle the competition, then don't take part, but if you read the OP, it clearly refers to competitive multiplayer games. Which is what I was referring to, if you wanna go play something lacking any sort of depth and strategy, than sure, there are games for that. But this thread isn't referring to those.TestECull said:
Okay, if realism doesn't matter in those situations, then stop aiming for the head in VATS...
Also, like I said before, this is about COMPETITIVE MULTIPLAYER
Yeah, sniper rifles don't do that really.. AMRs with the right ammo, maybe... And a lot of people like realism, it adds to the believability of the game world. And when you say those games are fun, you say it like it's a fact, realize that not everyone may share your view... (And those games you mentioned are actually realistic in the context we're talking about, which would be different hit locations)
Your logic if flawed again, you assumed I assumed that, no, obviously not, because for one, you obviously don't enjoy competitive multiplayer games. Nowhered did I state that all players wanted anything, I was discussing this in the realm of the OP, which IS about competitive MP games...
But hey, in the end, if you wanna play easy games, then you go right ahead, I have nothing against you slaying mindless drones to boost your ego, whatever floats your boat.
That's YOUR opinion, it's not fact, but I'm sure most gamers would aggree that if something is too easy, it's no fun. Otherwise everyone would just play with cheats on like some grabasstic 8 year old snorting script kiddie. (No offense to the non-cheating snorting 8 year olds, you uh... keep doing what you're doing?)gmaverick019 said:
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main reason why i don't play RTS's in multiplayer and play next to all my games on easy/normal, i don't have to be stressed to the max raging at the AI every moment of the game to enjoy it, if that were true, i wouldn't have played kotor 1 and 2 over 100 times combined.
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Well, if you're raging, then that's a personal issue, not a fault of the game, the other players, or anything else really, YOU can only feel what YOU allow yourself to feel. And if you spent that much time on a couple games... I worry for you buddy.
Not trying to insult you or anything, but the AWM is only frowned upon by newfriends and whiny bitches. If that makes up the majority of the CS community, than so be it (hell, I'd believe it), but competitive players use it all the time in scrims and leagues, so I don't see the problem. Hell, the AWM is probably the most fun weapon to use, especially in 24/7 AWP servers.Professor James said:
No I know that, I'm talking game terms, it would be ridiculous if a single body shot could kill you in a mainstream game, in my personal opinion I would welcome it, I played the hardcore mod for CoD 2 for years where if you got shot in the body and survived, you were one lucky bastard, my point is that an endless stream of whiners would, well, whine, if you made body shots a one shot kill in CoD, but maybe a small heart hit box would be okay with the CoD crowdCapitano Segnaposto said:
TF2 is the most balanced suggestion, even if it makes no sense whatsoever. Staying scoped charges power and a full charge will body-shot-kill anyone who isn't a Heavy. However, you are vulnerable while scoped so head-shots are safer but more difficult.
In every other game where there is no charge mechanic, it would make sniper rifles overpowered. All one needs to do is point and shoot for an automatic kill and it's likely that the enemy doesn't have the weapons to retaliate at the range you are at, even if they know you are there. It's unfair.
In every other game where there is no charge mechanic, it would make sniper rifles overpowered. All one needs to do is point and shoot for an automatic kill and it's likely that the enemy doesn't have the weapons to retaliate at the range you are at, even if they know you are there. It's unfair.
Real snipers are trained to aim for the heart, because the head is a hard to hit spot.
But us Gamers, its way easier to aim an imaginary gun. So no, even if there is a heart there's a good chance people will just hit it by accident. and I've heard of quick scoping, the head works because it's hard to hit, more risk Vs bigger payout, thats the way it should be.
But us Gamers, its way easier to aim an imaginary gun. So no, even if there is a heart there's a good chance people will just hit it by accident. and I've heard of quick scoping, the head works because it's hard to hit, more risk Vs bigger payout, thats the way it should be.
Well, if you're raging, then that's a personal issue, not a fault of the game, the other players, or anything else really, YOU can only feel what YOU allow yourself to feel. And if you spent that much time on a couple games... I worry for you buddy.[/quote]Mischa87 said:
that was partially my point, it is my opinion, you were stating that if something didn't have a challenge then it wouldn't be worth/fun playing. which isn't always true as someone else also called you out on it.
ah so broken game mechanics isn't a game's fault..i see..i'll just go play some more empire earth then where i'm stuck on the renaissance era while the computer is past nano technology after the first minute of play. (i actually like that game alot, but besides the point, that is an objective matter when the game's own mechanics are broken to give certain things edges.
if balanced gameplay is balanced, then sure i don't mind or anything at all at how tough something is, hence why i died 30 some times yesterday on the dragon age mod "quests and legends", but when everyone resorts to using cheese/OP strategies because the games mechanics were clearly in favor of that strategy, then yeah i'm going to avoid that "challenge" as you put it, because i wasn't looking for that when i bought the game, so i'll just stick to single player/easier modes.
ah well i'm sorry, i found a couple of games i liked..and your feeling sorry for me because i replayed them?
huh, didn't realize that was the new hip thing to do round these parts...i'll have to write that one up in my handy dandy notebook.
if its a .50cal or above a .308 or is labelled as a hollow point yes, because make peoples insides EXPLODE!
As much as I'd like a hitbox for every vital organ (which is the only way I can see it be done with the minimum amount of whining), the current gen of consoles can't handle it. PCs probably could though.
Random body shots should never 1HK. Shot to the nuts wouldn't be fatal or balanced.
Random body shots should never 1HK. Shot to the nuts wouldn't be fatal or balanced.
Actually it is quite probable to die from a body shot.Mookie_Magnus said:
It's because of the shock.
You wont hear any BANG! because most sniper rifles fire subsonic (the bullet travels just under sonic speed - your brain will not have decided what to do with that loud noise) or supersonic.
You won't see your murderer (not if he's any good).
And suddenly, without knowing whats going on you got a quite f'cking huge bullet in your favourite bodypart. In quite a lot cases your body will just say "dude, I'm outta here!"
As previously mentioned, since Sniper Rifles are chambered for practically the same round as assault rifles (excluding the .50 BMG and .308 LUPA), that should make any non-pistol/shotgun/SMG hit auto lethal.