Poll: Should we boycot EA? (and AAA publishers in general).

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Veldel

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I havnt bought a Activision game sense 2008 nor have I made any plans to.


Thing is small boycotting things like this won't effect them as long as there is a massive crowd who buys them regardless it makes the whole thing moot.
 

Rozalia1

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If you buy EA games then you are part of the problem

There are hundreds of studios putting out great games these days. so why would you buy from the one that constantly screws its consumers

avoiding EA is an easy decision
Part of the "Problem"? How far can you push that angle I wonder.

Except EA is a publisher and many devs independent of EA would thus be affected if the people who are "part" of the problem stopped buying their games. Than there is devs who have different publishers for different regions, so should people boycott even if EA isn't publishing their regions version? Answers to questions I'm sure you've not asked yourself.

Yes it is easy but something tells me you don't yourself. Those that are the loudest in their threats are the weakest in their actions and all that.
 

Pr0

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During the Mass Effect 3 debacle I put forward a similar argument as this but it was more specific to BioWare. And while I admit there are people that liked how Mass Effect 3 went, there were a lot of people that did not. Regardless of that I put forward a very reasonable and non-inflammatory post on the BSN to tell people to exercise their right as consumers to not patronize a company that they felt had abused their trust.

I advised that no DLC be bought for the game, I advised that people not participate in multi-player, I advised that people with TOR accounts shut down their subscriptions, I advised that people unregister their games from the BSN registration system to refuse to even let themselves be point metrics for BioWare's marketing analysis department.

I did all this in a very non-inflammatory and non-argumentative way, even avoiding the obvious people trying to drag me into arguments about it because I wanted the discussion to be able to continue on the BSN so people could read it. Even Total Biscuit weighed in on the thread and agreed with many of my points (I can link the thread if anyone gives a fuck but its two years ago now so I haven't spammed it into the thread to make myself seem like I'm important) I ended up banned from the BSN for violations of the EULA for that post, though no one at EA has ever stated, clearly, what violation occurred.

And even with the thousand plus posts that somewhat agreed with what I was saying or portions there of, there were still people that were like "lol next DLC is free, I'll boycott free DLC lol, newb". (Next DLC was going to be the "Extended Cut" ending) And of course BioWare's ability to eventually bury the discussion by banning me for bringing it up...well such is how things go. I still feel like it did make a subtle difference as BioWare did see a pretty large draw back in blind support, and they did take a hit as a studio. Which I felt at the time that they deserved because they were so far up their own asses they spent most of their time trying to get the media to paint out dissatisfied customers as whiny, entitled brats...which was the shallowest argument a dev house could have made in reference the reaction to the end of the Mass Effect series actually got.

This is of course before EA had Origin's "Great Game Guarantee" and I'd have probably figured in asking for refunds to my concerns.

But, my point here is that regardless of how wide a base of EA customers you can reach with some kind of informational platform that supports a boycott, it is immaterial because when dealing with an entity that can shout you down via every games media website there is because money and journalism in regards to the games industry has shown to be a massive conflict of interest at times, simply trying to get the players of games to not patronize EA does nothing to slow EA's constant abuse of the market.

The only way to get to EA is to get to their stock holders. Much like with Gamer Gate going to advertisers rather than attempting to take on gaming media head on (which would have been a pointless fight), the only way to change EA is to change their investors minds about how the company manages their capital. And thats a much harder thing to do, cause when it comes to investing, money talks and bullshit walks, ethics are rarely a consideration in investing, profit is the total concern..so getting at EA via their investment base is just as hard as attempting to get EA to change by getting a mass movement of individuals to stop utilizing their services.

Now keep in mind I don't think any company should specifically be caused to fail by consumer manipulation, that would make us no better than abusive companies who consistently farm the gaming market for profit and do so with substandard titles and blatant cash grabs. But I do agree that methodology should be sought that forces these companies to understand that the gaming market is not a cattle farm, and that good work and good games are rewarded by selling millions of copies, as compared to consistently rewarding a company like EA for defecating all over the faces of their consumer public and telling us what a good company they want to be when they really haven't changed anything about their production and development culture.

Thats a lot of words that basically means "This will be hard, but I do feel that there is a necessary nature to it".
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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There should be another option too for people who say "I don't agree with some of the things EA does but I don't see a need to boycott" or something along those lines. I'm one of those people, like me or hate me I don't care. I don't see a need to boycott because they will either wither on their own or straighten up their act at some point.
Markets always end up correcting themselves and a company can't continue to make poor choices and stay relevant or solvent. They send out products like BF4 and they're going to get backlash from even their most loyal customers.
 

RedDeadFred

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Where is the option for: No, I don't want to because I enjoy many of their games?

If I were to boycott EA, that would mean that I wouldn't be getting Inquisition for Christmas. I don't like the sounds of that so I will continue buy their products.
 

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Here is what you need to consider. We, meaning people posting on gaming news sites/forums/etc., are a minority in the gaming world. The buying power of the more less involved gamer is much more powerful than ours. They don't know what goes beyond the scenes, even if they did know, I'm guessing they wouldn't care. They just like to play their games. Unless someone could get a majority of them on their side, boycotting would never work.

And like RedDeadFred said, I enjoy EA's game, I'm a huge fan of Battlefield, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect. I won't miss a new installment.
 

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EA has gotten much better, I have no idea what the hatred is about. I've not had any issues with them and them absorbing companies and ruining games? I don't pretend to know what goes behind closed doors.

Ubisoft on the other hand with many years of insanely invasive, crappy, broken DRM schemes? Yeah they're off my list of people to buy from. Especially now with 3 big AAA titles that are totally broken how much time later?
Buy a game from a company and you're told you have 3 installs to work with, but you upgrade your PC and now your installs are gone.

Then there's the numerous load of nonsenses that spills out of their face "30fps is more cinematic" and more nonsense to play off how they don't have an interest in making games that both look and run well. Look, think what you want on that whole thing, the fact they're playing it off instead of simply saying "our target is better visual fidelity, instead of a higher framerate". Sorry, I just have no respect for them. I do respect the developers, those who create the games but the management and marketing? No. They lost that even before Uplay.
 

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No. As much as I disagree with their practices, they sadly own a lot of games I'm very interested in.

So I'm gonna stick with the complaining about the practices. You can call me a hypocrite for buying the games, I don't mind, at the end of the day I just want to play them.
 

Uncle Comrade

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I'm just asking, if theoretically enough people were boycotting all of EA's titles to the point where most of them were bombing left right and centre, would this force them to change their tunes and actually try to make better (non-homogenised rip-off) products free of the typical DLC and micro-transactions bullcrap, or will it just result in them closing a whole lot of studios, axing hundreds (if not thousands) of hard working game developers and just starting over with the new studios they just bought and will also run into the ground with the exact same practices.
Didn't EA say at one point that if The Sims 4 didn't sell well enough they'd just stop making Sims games? That probably tells you all you need to know about how effective a boycott would be against them. Plus, as others have said, for every one person who decides "I'm not going to buy EA games because I disagree with their practices" there'll be more who aren't even aware of said practices and just think "Aww sweet, new Fifa/Battlefield! I'm getting that!"

Personally, I don't buy games unless it's something I really want anyway, so boycotting (for example) Dragon Age Inquisition would be me depriving myself of fun just to make a point so minor as to barely be noticed. Similarly, if I don't buy a game that's filled with microtransactions and terrible DRM it'll be because I think "That sounds crap." rather than because I'm taking a stand against the publishers. Maybe that does make me 'part of the problem', but I don't really care that much.

Phasmal said:
No. As much as I disagree with their practices, they sadly own a lot of games I'm very interested in.

So I'm gonna stick with the complaining about the practices. You can call me a hypocrite for buying the games, I don't mind, at the end of the day I just want to play them.
What she said, basically.
 

loa

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Well seeing how they murdered the 2 games they published that I liked, Dead Space and Dawngate, I am already quasi-boycotting them anyway.
 

Zipa

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EA actually seem to be at least trying to get their shit together which is something. They certainly learned their lesson with Dragon age II, DAI is a far better game on all levels barring a few bugs and the like.

Ubisoft though, if they keep on digging the hole they are in currently they are going to come out the other side of the planet and fall into space.
 

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Boycott is the wrong word. If you don't like EA's products, then you're not boycotting them by refusing to buy their games. You're just being an ordinary consumer. The very fact of using a word like boycott suggests there's something very wrong with your outlook. Are you that addicted that you can't help but throw your money at a company you resent? Take it case by case. Game X is released. Do I think I'll like game X? No. Therefore don't buy.

I haven't bought from EA for several years, but not because of any boycott. They just don't make my kind of games.
 

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This is amusing.

First we start off with "Just to be clear this isn't a yet another "EA sucks" discussion thread" then we go into a whole diatribe of things that many publishers are doing but only EA is mentioned. Then we are painting everything under that banner with the same brush while apparently ignoring that indie devs are not exactly pure as the yellow driven snow either.

Buy what you want to, ignore what you want to, but if you really want to make some kind of consumer point, you need to actually get off your ass and tell them why you are doing either. Doing one without the other is just lazy as fuck bullshit and a spouting of hot air besides.
 

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What no way! Boycotting is totes censorship guyz!!!

I kid I kid. I don't actually care either way, and EA does publish a decent game from time to time, even if their usual line of slightly updated yearly sports titles literally could not interest me any less.

Captcha: way to go. This just in, captcha approves of me making fun of people crying censorship.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Voting with your wallet is dumb and pointless because there is no particular way for a company to count a negative vote. See also: they must have pirated it. It's not purchasing something, but with a name that tries to give it a false sense of impact.
What the heck are you talking about? Nothing in that statement even makes sense.
If people dont buy your shit, you'll notice. And it has impact.

Also what's the other option? Buying everything EA puts out because it makes no diffrence? What's your point?

Buy good stuff, ignore shit and people will make more good stuff because shit doesn't sell. It's not rocket surgery.
 

TallanKhan

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I'm not, by and large, in favor of boycotting whole companies. I would support the idea of boycotting individual titles or franchises but this would need to be done sensibly, i.e. wait until the game is released, read a cross-section of reviews to get a feel for whether the game is good or not and then make a decision as to whether a boycott is warranted.

Boycotts are only properly effective when they are targeted, and while quality is to a point subjective, it is still possible to distinguish a "poor" game from one that just doesn't appeal to you (dated mechanics, poor control scheme, buggy, incoherent narrative). As such any boycott should be targeted at poor games, as a message to developers and publishers that "We expect better than this".
 

Sanunes

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Not sure the focus on EA even in the subject line when all publishers have some of these practices. Heck if I was going to "boycott" a developer/publisher/platform I would even have to avoid using Steam because of their policies don't protect the customer and they try to convince a person that their countries laws come second to their EULA.

When I buy anything I judge on the product itself and not the parent company for that will never work. Now I might be slower to adapt because of past releases and that recently saved me $60 for Assassin's Creed Unity, but I didn't write off that game until I knew if it was going to be a buggy mess or a good game.