Poll: should you need a license to be a parent
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So you think it's ok to take away chrildren, which is a much bigger problem than bad parenting, as well as taking away basic human rights?Supreme Unleaded said:
I've allready covered that in my other posts.
Oh god no! Not because it's a bad idea but because with getting a license you're going to have to go to some horrible government run establishment to get it. And if the DMV is any kind of example of what our government can cook up then those people can kiss the shittiest part of my ass.
They parents must:
-Be Athiest, or not crazy (like Carrie's mother) about religion
-Have at least a highschool diploma
-Have steady income of at least 70,000 a year
-Not have any major crimes (murder, rape, arson) on record
-Be at least 14, and younger than 75
-Be Have no genetic problems
-Have no Mental disabilities that interfere with the raising of the child
-Have a REAL IQ of at least 95
-Be Athiest, or not crazy (like Carrie's mother) about religion
-Have at least a highschool diploma
-Have steady income of at least 70,000 a year
-Not have any major crimes (murder, rape, arson) on record
-Be at least 14, and younger than 75
-Be Have no genetic problems
-Have no Mental disabilities that interfere with the raising of the child
-Have a REAL IQ of at least 95
No.
Will some people be bad parents? Yes.
Will writing 'you have to take a test to have kids' down on a piece of paper stop them from having kids? No.
And what do you do then? Abort their foetus because you don't like them? Go fuck yourself.
That's all I can say without losing my temper.
EDIT: Actually, though I disagree in principle with such a license I'd have to see the criteria for it first.
Will some people be bad parents? Yes.
Will writing 'you have to take a test to have kids' down on a piece of paper stop them from having kids? No.
And what do you do then? Abort their foetus because you don't like them? Go fuck yourself.
That's all I can say without losing my temper.
EDIT: Actually, though I disagree in principle with such a license I'd have to see the criteria for it first.
Here's how i see it. Instead of making unfit parents take a test, how about we just beat the idea that not all parents are perfect, and that their performance shall determine everything. Basically, let it be known far and wide that not all kids have to respect their parents. That not all kids have to give a rats arse about their parents. Here's how it should work, if the parent is so bad that they can stop the love that is biologically and chemically ingrained into us from birth, such a process that has taken place for millions of years and is still taking place in every animal in the world, if they can stop this process that binds you together, and make you hate them instead of love, then the kids should have full right to slap them and move out at whatever age he/she feels like. If we can beat this idea into everyone, the world would be a lot happier. But that's going against the bible so it's impossible.
OOooh you though was bad...EcoEclipse said:
(granted she's number one on the list)
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Are... you... kidding me!? Yes there are horrible parents in this world, but who do any of us think we are to dictate if someone can have a child or not? The blatant disregard for basic human rights and the sheer maniacle egotism of this disturbs me.
How about this then, all of you who are young enough to still be living at home, etc... We legislate this system into place with the whole "license to have children" thing right? Fines and all. Now, how about we give all the children born (at a certain age, say, 8?) a test to see if their intelligence is good enough for societal standards. Then, if they pass, great, the kids are allowed to continue in their growth and development. If they fail, they're confiscated from their parents because they are "defective" and sent to some processing facility to be recycled. :cough: How many would be up for this idea? Anyone?
Or maybe how about we make it so children (or any "child" still living in their parents home) have to do everything their parents tell them to, punishable by whiping. I bet we'd have a lot less idiots coming into this world if they didn't think they knew more then their parents. (which is almost everyone) I know a woman who'se 16 year old daughter has been running away from home over the course of the last year repeatedly and was recently gone for a month. She just came back home, pregnant, dropped out of school and begging for her mom to take her back. Maybe she should have listened to her mother to begin with?
This is an incredibly huge can of worms on a slippery slope that leads directly into a volcanic flow. I'm curious where all the "pro-choice" people are on this thread? It's the woman's body right? it's her choice? So instead lets just take that right away before they even get to that choice? Excuse me? What about everyone who is pro-legalization of weed? It's their body right, their choice?
How about this then, all of you who are young enough to still be living at home, etc... We legislate this system into place with the whole "license to have children" thing right? Fines and all. Now, how about we give all the children born (at a certain age, say, 8?) a test to see if their intelligence is good enough for societal standards. Then, if they pass, great, the kids are allowed to continue in their growth and development. If they fail, they're confiscated from their parents because they are "defective" and sent to some processing facility to be recycled. :cough: How many would be up for this idea? Anyone?
Or maybe how about we make it so children (or any "child" still living in their parents home) have to do everything their parents tell them to, punishable by whiping. I bet we'd have a lot less idiots coming into this world if they didn't think they knew more then their parents. (which is almost everyone) I know a woman who'se 16 year old daughter has been running away from home over the course of the last year repeatedly and was recently gone for a month. She just came back home, pregnant, dropped out of school and begging for her mom to take her back. Maybe she should have listened to her mother to begin with?
This is an incredibly huge can of worms on a slippery slope that leads directly into a volcanic flow. I'm curious where all the "pro-choice" people are on this thread? It's the woman's body right? it's her choice? So instead lets just take that right away before they even get to that choice? Excuse me? What about everyone who is pro-legalization of weed? It's their body right, their choice?
I am going to say no just because licenses do very little to keep dangerous and stupid people from driving. Any idiot can pretend to drive safe just once, get a license, and be speeding down the highway while texting their friends about how they passed the driver's test. The same goes for a parent license. I also believe there is no way to tell or teach someone how to raise a child because unlike cars, kids operate differently from one another. If kids could be controlled like machines, I might be in favor of a license but that is not the case.
I want to say yes so much to this, only problem is that it really is a fundemental right so i have to say no
You need a licence to fish; a licence to drive; a licence to own a pet...
And I'm fairly certain whether or not you're fit to be a parent is more important than any of those things.
If you fail the test, you leave some key bod parts at the front desk and go your merry way-- it's that simple...or is least it should be.
And I'm fairly certain whether or not you're fit to be a parent is more important than any of those things.
If you fail the test, you leave some key bod parts at the front desk and go your merry way-- it's that simple...or is least it should be.
I cant beleive the majority is going with 'yes' on this. i swear the world is getting more fascist by the day!
ok so we have over population - this is solved by EDUCATION and FREE CONTRACEPTION. I agree many folks are unfit parents but that does not deny there basic human right to procreate, what most of these people are suffering from is poor education, class stigma and POVERTY. further more i will remind you that you are judging these people by your standards - not theirs, everything is relative. Ultimately if the child survives to adulthood then they have been successfull parents, any other judgements are based on culture and opinion. If a 'parent test' were to be introduced you can bet it would be how well the parents could pay for the kids upbringing rather than how much love they might show the child.
All that being said i do refer to the kids hangin out on the end of my street as 'the little f-ing scrotes' i just think that education and sorting out the economy would be a beter resolution than one group of people imposing their power over another yet again.
ok so we have over population - this is solved by EDUCATION and FREE CONTRACEPTION. I agree many folks are unfit parents but that does not deny there basic human right to procreate, what most of these people are suffering from is poor education, class stigma and POVERTY. further more i will remind you that you are judging these people by your standards - not theirs, everything is relative. Ultimately if the child survives to adulthood then they have been successfull parents, any other judgements are based on culture and opinion. If a 'parent test' were to be introduced you can bet it would be how well the parents could pay for the kids upbringing rather than how much love they might show the child.
All that being said i do refer to the kids hangin out on the end of my street as 'the little f-ing scrotes' i just think that education and sorting out the economy would be a beter resolution than one group of people imposing their power over another yet again.
licenses? really? i know there are some people who dont have what it takes to have children but to license right to reproduce sounds alittle if not completely fascist heck then you'll want to come up with the idea just to cut out the parent middle man and create human life like brave new world
Just had a brainstorm!
how about this for an idea:
Upon finding out about pregnancy prospective parent(s) must take a test....
If they fail - they get some free education, some help, social care to get them started. Posibly help applying for any relevant benefits they may be entitled to, and help with how to manage parenting and working life.
How does that idea grab you all?
how about this for an idea:
Upon finding out about pregnancy prospective parent(s) must take a test....
If they fail - they get some free education, some help, social care to get them started. Posibly help applying for any relevant benefits they may be entitled to, and help with how to manage parenting and working life.
How does that idea grab you all?
My principles tell me no, that's a bad idea... but then I go out in public and see some families.