Poll: should you need a license to be a parent

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JourneyThroughHell

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Yes, yes, yes. The problem is that with this license we'll be struck by serious underpopulation and making it easily obtainable will defeat the purpose of the license.
 

kitsunema

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bigolbear said:
Just had a brainstorm!

how about this for an idea:
Upon finding out about pregnancy prospective parent(s) must take a test....

If they fail - they get some free education, some help, social care to get them started. Posibly help applying for any relevant benefits they may be entitled to, and help with how to manage parenting and working life.

How does that idea grab you all?
or they can apply for welfare or wicca and get the same beifits without sitting down to a desk for a test i dont see out this stipulation makes the idea any better
 

PunchClockVillain

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bigolbear said:
Just had a brainstorm!

how about this for an idea:
Upon finding out about pregnancy prospective parent(s) must take a test....

If they fail - they get some free education, some help, social care to get them started. Posibly help applying for any relevant benefits they may be entitled to, and help with how to manage parenting and working life.

How does that idea grab you all?
Making it required seems intrusive, making it optional won't guarantee the idiots who need it most will get it. Seems kinda Catch 22.
 

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Kuchinawa212 said:
I mean this is kind my case

What good can come of that
Watching that video certainly made me lose a bit more faith in humanity.

OT: No, there's no chance in hell democratic governments would allow this cause they'd be voted out in a flash. Maybe some kind of paid for parental classes and relaxation in child abuse laws. Not so parents can randomly beat the shit out of their children but so they can give them a smack if they are doing wrong.
 

Et3rnalLegend64

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Kuchinawa212 said:
I mean this is kind my case

What good can come of that
Oh god. She sounded stupid the second that she opened her mouth. I couldn't get past 40 seconds...
What the hell is wrong with her?!?! Who wants a baby at 15? "I'm gonna have a baby with 3 different guys. That's right, I'm a player." I've never heard such a completely stupid thing come from anyone's mouth ever. And she's trying too hard to sound ghetto (if that's the word).

More simply: people like her have no business ever having children. She won't be able to care for her kid and she just sounds incompetent. I'm starting to lean more towards supporting the license idea...
 
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This is a good idea in theory, but in practicality and application, is very reminiscant of eugenics. Wait, this is eugenics. And for those of you who do not know what that is, it was a movement to, in essence, sterilize the stupid people. Problem was, the people doing the sterilazations were rascist, anti-semetic bigots less than objective with who they chose to sterilize. By this I mean that half of it was the Nazi party, and the other half were upper class Americans and Europeans who view the poor and minorities as mentally challenged. So you can see why this didn't go so well.

Also, the upper class Europeans and Americans were not Republicans or Conservatives. So please do not make that claim. It was, in fact, simply rich people from both sides of the political spectrum. Sorry about this last paragraph, and it's nescesity as a disclaimer, but I worry that many people will see the words 'Nazi' and 'American' and go "Agh! Gun wielding Republicans!!!" as is so common on the internet. In truth though, it was neither, it had more to do with affluence than political affiliation.
 

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Journeythroughhell said:
Yes, yes, yes. The problem is that with this license we'll be struck by serious underpopulation and making it easily obtainable will defeat the purpose of the license.
I doubt every country will support this anyway if it ever came to pass anyway. Regardless, the world's population is well over 6 billion, and the number of births per year keeps increasing. Do you honestly believe that we'll be underpopulated? If anything, we're overpopulated (China especially. About 1 billion people there and not nearly enough land). This idea will probably lessen the issue of kids who aren't be cared for properly because their parents don't have the means to or because the parents are just idiots.
 

JourneyThroughHell

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Et3rnalLegend64 said:
I doubt every country will support this anyway if it ever came to pass anyway. Regardless, the world's population is well over 6 billion, and the number of births per year keeps increasing. Do you honestly believe that we'll be underpopulated? If anything, we're overpopulated (China especially. About 1 billion people there and not nearly enough land). This idea will probably lessen the issue of kids who aren't be cared for properly because their parents don't have the means to or because the parents are just idiots.
I do honestly believe we'll suffer from a severe decreasing of populaton. Frankly, most parents I've seen aren't exactly good parents and every day I see a mother with a ciggarete taking her child for a walk. But there is probably no way to test people like that.
 

Triple G

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First thought: Yes.
Second thought: Wouldn't change anything either. I think it's way more important to educate your child and to teach it what's right and what's wrong. In a "social" kind of way. Because in the last time those little shits have become too courageous. For e.g., a friend of mine and I are sitting on a bench and chilling, he had eaten some potato chips and now the plastic bag was empty, but he was too lazy to walk to the trash can so he put it next to him to throw it away later. So a fucking kid with his fucking kid friends runs up to us, takes the empty bag, and throws it in his face. I was like WTF?! So I caught this prick by his neck and was like: "Show some fucking respect to elders you little shit!" Then this little prick got quiet, but after he went like 10 feet away he started making stupid 3rd class jokes about me. So I went up to him and punched him in the spine. After that this little brats understood that shit has gotten serious and became quiet. Like WTF?! Didn't his parents teach him to respect people who are older than him? Or at least to respect adults? Because, with my 18 I would be an adult after German law. And this is not the first time this has happened. That has to fucking stop, I don't have time to beat the shit out of little brats because their stupid parents can't educate them. Also I'm getting to old to be beating children anyway.
 

TarenLikesBlue

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A yearly psychological assessment of some sort?
Children be registered in some kind of system until they are 18?
Difficult :(

just something!
 

Madshaw

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I think instead parents should have to sign a written contract, officially signing a set of rules that prevent them from allowing a child to take drugs, skive school, play in the street at night, leave it unattended for too long and not doing homework etc.
 

r3lix

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A...license?...Haha no I don't think so. Its just if you can afford to have a kid..than have one. or if you enjoy the...dirty, flea ridden mongrels..
 

r3lix

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Sibbo said:
Kuchinawa212 said:
I mean this is kind my case

What good can come of that
Watching that video certainly made me lose a bit more faith in humanity.

OT: No, there's no chance in hell democratic governments would allow this cause they'd be voted out in a flash. Maybe some kind of paid for parental classes and relaxation in child abuse laws. Not so parents can randomly beat the shit out of their children but so they can give them a smack if they are doing wrong.
Wow...15 year old wants kid- Thats exactly like my girlfriend last year!! D:
 

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stone0042 said:
It would be pointless, what would you do to those that fail? You can hardly steal their baby...
Abortions, Or the good old Yudigo practice of tossing the little bastards off the cliff.
 
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It's redundant. I clicked no but really what I mean to say is this: (turn off now if you don't like reading)

Yes, it probably should be illegal to have children unless you have some sort of licence, or government test, or some form of medical certificate which entitles you to be a good parent, but it will never ever happen. Some people who would otherwise be classified as bad parents really do rise to the occassion, whereas people you thought wuld be excellent end up smothering their children, so no test on earth would work anyway.

And besides that there's the implementation of it. Does everyone who registers unfit to be a parent get automatically neutered? If there's an accident and a baby occurs is it automatically either aborted or adopted upon birth? I can really see that hapening in a democratic society.

So while I get what you're saying, it's such a hypothetical concept that it won't ever even be discussed. The technology does not exist to implement it, nor does the inclination. What needs to happen instead is for government to stop spending so many trillions on defence plans and redirect some of the money to education and support for parents.
 

Triple G

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Madshaw said:
I think instead parents should have to sign a written contract, officially signing a set of rules that prevent them from allowing a child to take drugs, skive school, play in the street at night, leave it unattended for too long and not doing homework etc.
And by this making them the most boring work-horses on the planet...
 

bluepilot

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Hmm, when I see some families, I wish I could sterilize them all.

There is no way to enforce childbirth and parenting without taking away someone`s rights. Consider the following methods

1) When all girls hit purberty, they are to be given the pill until they have permission for pregnancy

2) All men are to be administered with `chemical castration` until they obtain permission

3) All people are to wear chastity belts until married

4) After the second child, both parties will undergo sterilization

5) No children will be permitted in the second marriage.

6) Accidental pregancies will result in termination

7) Those who have no permission to give birth, will be forced to undertake termination, and possible sterilization for a second offence

Each option form 1-7, does not look pretty at all. Many problems all ready present could be solved with proper education and a good hard smack.

The girl from the video, she needs a really good hard slap in the face. I would never let my daughter talk like that.
 

BigSuze

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I don't think a licence would be a good idea, since I know several people who I've thought would never make a good parent, yet when it happens they're excellent parents. Plus I disagree with the government trying to take away our freedoms at the moment eg. smoking, drinking, having any kind of fun.

However, I do think sterilisation of people who are unable to properly support their children is a good idea. I know one woman who has 8 kids, with another on the way, all by 5 different fathers. She's on the dole and has never worked a day in her life, and all of her kids are thieves, druggies or street scum. People like this should never be allowed to have that many kids.