Poll: Smoking-Cool or Not?
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I think the "smoking is cool" stereotype got played out for me as I got older. Namely because I don't smoke and I have several friends who do and it gets old pretty quickly having to wait around for them every time they need a smoke break or having to stand out in the cold when they need company.
If were talking about smoking cigars...
If were talking about smoking cigars...
I think you'll find he died of Pancreatic cancer, which ran in his family and can be blamed on his former alcoholism rather than the cigs ;]LaxLuster said:
Back to the topic, smoking isn't cool, but go back a few decades and it used to be. I smoke, mainly because if I don't then I get serious anger problems - thats what I deserve for being suckered into the most addictive substance known to mankind.
You've stopped smoking like a 100 times? Wow! You're really amazing!
...the hell ya are. Dude, seriously, if you've quitted so many times, then why'd ya start again? There are no plus sides to it. And don't give me any crap like, that you wanted to, because we both know that's just bullshit. 'Couse the reason you've quitted and then started again is because you can't quit permanently. You're addicted. So don't say it's so easy to quit when you can't even quit yourself.
Oh, and I despise smokers because I have to endure the stench oozing from them.
...the hell ya are. Dude, seriously, if you've quitted so many times, then why'd ya start again? There are no plus sides to it. And don't give me any crap like, that you wanted to, because we both know that's just bullshit. 'Couse the reason you've quitted and then started again is because you can't quit permanently. You're addicted. So don't say it's so easy to quit when you can't even quit yourself.
Oh, and I despise smokers because I have to endure the stench oozing from them.
I've tried giving up on numerous occasions and failed with top honours at quitter's camp (i doubt that exists), because i admit i'm addicted and my heart was not with it. It is easy saying your going to quit but that dosn't mean that your going to do it. If you truly want to give up you can but theres no point if you don't believe you can
As a teenager, I have to agree that I dont understand why they even try. Alot, and I mean ALOT, of people in my school smoke. Some of them are even rude enough to step into a room while me and my friends are studying, shouting loud and without shame "Do you liek have a cig and something to light it with???"Ice Storm said:
More than half of my friends are smokers, I have tried once becuse of that, but I hated it, and I cant take the smell, didnt really see the charm with smoking, becuse its like inhaling a bottle of tar. But I do think people try becuse they think its "cool", and then they have made a big mistake in their lives. Even though no one says "I really think its awsomely coolt smoke!!" when you ask them why they smoke or why they started, they usually shrug and keeps inhaling their precious tar.
... Now that I mentioned it, the smokers reminds me of Smeagol/Gollum(however you spell it) from Lord of the Rings. Addicted and goes nuts if they dont get their precious.
Also my grandma has cancer now, and she will die with it, or becuse of it, another reason for me to hate and disgust smoking.
I voted "uncool".
I personally, have no desire to repeatedly inhale burning toxins.
If people wish to do so, I have no objection. Just not near me.
I personally, have no desire to repeatedly inhale burning toxins.
If people wish to do so, I have no objection. Just not near me.
its a persons choice if they want to smoke or not...surely?
to me, i find it repulsive and i am going to avoid as much as possible because....i quite like life
to me, i find it repulsive and i am going to avoid as much as possible because....i quite like life
what point are you trying to make? apparently more people died of smoking than plane crashes, so obviously it does make smoking more dangerous. the difference between dying in a plane crash and dying of cancer induced by smoking is just that: you chose to smoke, which could have prevented getting cancer, whereas someone dying in a plane crash has no choice in the matter. that's the only relevance in your entire post. i think you could stand to learn something yourself before berating someone else.freekdeman said:
I'm a casual smoker, I smoke when the cards are down, or when I'm having a drink.
Smokers are no different to anyone, they have just made a choice, if they quit, then they quit.
Some of the finest professors I know, smoke.
Does that make them less of a person? F*** NO!
Look it's just a life choice guys, if you don't smoke, then you don't smoke.
If it's "cool" or "uncool" is complete bollocks, for god's sake, are we that misguided?
-Joe
Smokers are no different to anyone, they have just made a choice, if they quit, then they quit.
Some of the finest professors I know, smoke.
Does that make them less of a person? F*** NO!
Look it's just a life choice guys, if you don't smoke, then you don't smoke.
If it's "cool" or "uncool" is complete bollocks, for god's sake, are we that misguided?
-Joe
i voted cool as hell, when you first started at 14-16. i started at 15, didnt get serious about it till i was 18 or so, but i was very 'cool' in fact it was one of those things that made me go from nerd to cool almost overnight.
thing is though, looking back on it, age doesnt change my opinion about my 'cool' factor but the health results from the next 15 years of doing it werent worth the 'cool' for the few years it had a benifit.
lets face it if there wasnt SOME draw too smoking no one would continue to do it beyond the fist gasping weazing drag. i went on to smoke for another 15 years or so, it just became a part of my life, a part of who I was. i gave up some friends and even some family because i was a smoker. once the big shift to non smoking became wide spread in the 90s and i started getting invited to smoke outside at partys and get togethers i stoped going to those peoples partys an functions. my extended family even went so far as to 'split' over smoking-non smoking. we now have two different holliday partys, one for smokers and one for non smokers.
i was one of those that caused this aplit as a smoker, now im in an even worse situation because i dont smoke anymore and there is NOTHING worse than being a ex-smoker in a room full of people still puffing away but having been a 'champion' of the pro-smoking side for so long i cant quit them now and join the non's now can i? i still find myself going outside, but this time its for fresh air instead of a puff.
the truth is i dont actualy regret my choices. i STILL think that you take people as they are, the good and the bad, being a good host means you dont turn your guests into gutter scum because of an addiction they cant control. i look at it this way, i may have to tolerate the smoke for a few hours, but THOSE poor bastards have to live with it rotting their bodys every second of their lives. they are to have our pitty not our scorne. smoking wont kill you because you have to be around it for a few hours a year or because your shirt smells like an ash tray till you wash it so why be such a fucking dick that you make those you are supposed to care about uncomfortable and unwelcome as a guest because of something they really CANT control? no one who has smoked long enough too become addicted WANTS to continue doing it, atleast no one i know. so on top of knowing that their lives are allready plagued by smoking you want to add to their misery by making them outcasts from their own friends/familys on top of it? all because you dont want to do a load of wash a day early?
im not all that sure about smoers being 'cool' but i AM sure that non-smokers can certianly be very UN-cool in their moral crusades. and truth is id rather be around a smoker than some guy or chick that thinks half a bottle of perfume or aftershave is the right ammount to put on every morning, noon, and night. there are billions of details we as humans have to manage in our interactions with one another. smoking is just one of those, you either accept the person as they are or you reject them, but one thing you DONT get to do is to run their life FOR them. if you have a party, and you want to invite a smoker than be ready to deal with the smoking that comes along with it, just as you deal with aunt marrys perfume, and uncle Joes 'pull my finger' attacks.
/end rant.
thing is though, looking back on it, age doesnt change my opinion about my 'cool' factor but the health results from the next 15 years of doing it werent worth the 'cool' for the few years it had a benifit.
lets face it if there wasnt SOME draw too smoking no one would continue to do it beyond the fist gasping weazing drag. i went on to smoke for another 15 years or so, it just became a part of my life, a part of who I was. i gave up some friends and even some family because i was a smoker. once the big shift to non smoking became wide spread in the 90s and i started getting invited to smoke outside at partys and get togethers i stoped going to those peoples partys an functions. my extended family even went so far as to 'split' over smoking-non smoking. we now have two different holliday partys, one for smokers and one for non smokers.
i was one of those that caused this aplit as a smoker, now im in an even worse situation because i dont smoke anymore and there is NOTHING worse than being a ex-smoker in a room full of people still puffing away but having been a 'champion' of the pro-smoking side for so long i cant quit them now and join the non's now can i? i still find myself going outside, but this time its for fresh air instead of a puff.
the truth is i dont actualy regret my choices. i STILL think that you take people as they are, the good and the bad, being a good host means you dont turn your guests into gutter scum because of an addiction they cant control. i look at it this way, i may have to tolerate the smoke for a few hours, but THOSE poor bastards have to live with it rotting their bodys every second of their lives. they are to have our pitty not our scorne. smoking wont kill you because you have to be around it for a few hours a year or because your shirt smells like an ash tray till you wash it so why be such a fucking dick that you make those you are supposed to care about uncomfortable and unwelcome as a guest because of something they really CANT control? no one who has smoked long enough too become addicted WANTS to continue doing it, atleast no one i know. so on top of knowing that their lives are allready plagued by smoking you want to add to their misery by making them outcasts from their own friends/familys on top of it? all because you dont want to do a load of wash a day early?
im not all that sure about smoers being 'cool' but i AM sure that non-smokers can certianly be very UN-cool in their moral crusades. and truth is id rather be around a smoker than some guy or chick that thinks half a bottle of perfume or aftershave is the right ammount to put on every morning, noon, and night. there are billions of details we as humans have to manage in our interactions with one another. smoking is just one of those, you either accept the person as they are or you reject them, but one thing you DONT get to do is to run their life FOR them. if you have a party, and you want to invite a smoker than be ready to deal with the smoking that comes along with it, just as you deal with aunt marrys perfume, and uncle Joes 'pull my finger' attacks.
/end rant.